Connor Brown at 2mln aav can do the same (and actually kill penalties) as johnsson.
But johnsson has a 3.5mln aav (approx) contract.
Dubas franked up
- MaximusAurelius

He’s playing 20 mins a game because he’s on a bad team.

He better be able to generate more shots it’s just simple math.

Tierny, Namestikov, Duclair, Brown...these guys aren’t top 6 players.

They will get their points this year but don’t forget what these players do when they play in their role on good teams Which is about 30 points.
- Santo_44

We are talking about Brown, not the others you mentioned. Brown would be a top 6 on most teams. He was buried to open a spot for Willy, and so far he is sticking it to them playing with way worse players. The ice time difference right now between him and Nylander is his PK time. If Willy was playing with the bums Brown plays with he'd have 2 points this season.

- AdamFrench

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We are talking about Brown, not the others you mentioned. Brown would be a top 6 on most teams. He was buried to open a spot for Willy, and so far he is sticking it to them playing with way worse players. The ice time difference right now between him and Nylander is his PK time. If Willy was playing with the bums Brown plays with he'd have 2 points this season.
- aminnes

Those other players are examples of 3rd line guys who are scoring with 1st line opportunities.

Brown has never shown any reason to think he’s a top 6 player.

He’s simply not a top 6 player right now.

Connor Brown at 2mln aav can do the same (and actually kill penalties) as johnsson.
But johnsson has a 3.5mln aav (approx) contract.
Dubas franked up
- MaximusAurelius

I feel like Johnsson has the potential to be more than what he's shown, while Brown has proven he can't.

But that's just an opinion.

Connor Brown at 2mln aav can do the same (and actually kill penalties) as johnsson.
But johnsson has a 3.5mln aav (approx) contract.
Dubas franked up
- MaximusAurelius

The club screwed this one up. Why can't fan boys just admit it. The contracts given to Kap and Johnson were perfect and Willy should have came in at around 4-4.5 in comparison. Brown, Kap, and Johnsson have been more valuable than Nylander so far this year and backpacking off last year. Th club (frank)ed up and spent money stupidly in some cases which means they can't augment their defence and can't be a legit team.

Connor Brown at 2mln aav can do the same (and actually kill penalties) as johnsson.
But johnsson has a 3.5mln aav (approx) contract.
Dubas franked up
- MaximusAurelius

Leafs get a younger better player for 3 more years @ 3.4 mil
Brown is an RFA and will sign another deal probably at least that much...since he will get the crappy sens top line mins point bump

Lol

He also had a 14.5% shooting percentage his first year which was clearly not sustainable.

The average is 9%

Which would of been 12-13 goals.

He isn’t a top 6 player and it’s obvious.
- Santo_44

Last season 14.5% was the average for the top50 goalscorers.

You can't take the average for ALL the players in the league if you want to guess a probable result for a decent forward...!

- Santo_44

Max hates Johnsson for simply being better than he thought he was...

The club screwed this one up. Why can't fan boys just admit it. The contracts given to Kap and Johnson were perfect and Willy should have came in at around 4-4.5 in comparison. Brown, Kap, and Johnsson have been more valuable than Nylander so far this year and backpacking off last year. Th club (frank)ed up and spent money stupidly in some cases which means they can't augment their defence and can't be a legit team.
- aminnes

Because the facts say otherwise?

Those other players are examples of 3rd line guys who are scoring with 1st line opportunities.

Brown has never shown any reason to think he’s a top 6 player.

He’s simply not a top 6 player right now.
- Santo_44

So scoring as much or more than other prominent NHL top 6 players in comparing rookie seasons isn't a reason? And as Seagull said yesterday Babs demoted him after that. Did Calgary demote Monahan? Did Washington demote Kuznetsov after he only bagged 11 goals as a rookie? No. Leafs misevaluated their players. This has been happening for a long time, I don't get the surprise.

Oh Leafy fans.
- RedRevenge

Meeeeow ....

Last season 14.5% was the average for the top50 goalscorers.

You can't take the average for ALL the players in the league if you want to guess a probable result for a decent forward...!
- 21peter

My bad.

Brown is obviously as good as a goal scorer as Laine, Matthews, Kane.

So scoring as much or more than other prominent NHL top 6 players in comparing rookie seasons isn't a reason? And as Seagull said yesterday Babs demoted him after that. Did Calgary demote Monahan? Did Washington demote Kuznetsov after he only bagged 11 goals as a rookie? No. Leafs misevaluated their players. This has been happening for a long time, I don't get the surprise.
- aminnes

sure if all rookie seasons were alike and Bergeron wasnt 18 and Brown wasnt 5 years older

So scoring as much or more than other prominent NHL top 6 players in comparing rookie seasons isn't a reason? And as Seagull said yesterday Babs demoted him after that. Did Calgary demote Monahan? Did Washington demote Kuznetsov after he only bagged 11 goals as a rookie? No. Leafs misevaluated their players. This has been happening for a long time, I don't get the surprise.
- aminnes

He scored with a 14.5%......

Those seasons aren’t comparables.

You want proof? Look at the ones after it. He’s not a 14.5% shooter.

Max hates Johnsson for simply being better than he thought he was...
- Steven_Seagull

That guy has issues with obsessing over liking and hating players.

The club screwed this one up. Why can't fan boys just admit it. The contracts given to Kap and Johnson were perfect and Willy should have came in at around 4-4.5 in comparison. Brown, Kap, and Johnsson have been more valuable than Nylander so far this year and backpacking off last year. Th club (frank)ed up and spent money stupidly in some cases which means they can't augment their defence and can't be a legit team.
- aminnes

On a 3 year deal, sure. For 6 years? Nope. 6-6.5 is where his cap hit should be.

Well, first we would say Nylander doesn't make $7M. Then I guess, we'd say that Brown is getting over 20 minutes of ice time per game, out of necessity really (Ottawa sucks), and Nylander is getting just over 17 minutes of ice time per game.
- PatC80

Max will add his Hintz > Nylander comment soon.

That guy has issues with obsessing over liking and hating players.
- Santo_44

I wonder what his excuse will be when Woll is in fact not the Leafs starter for next season.

He scored with a 14.5%......

Those seasons aren’t comparables.

You want proof? Look at the ones after it. He’s not a 14.5% shooter.
- Santo_44

I went over this. at 10% (his average), at the rate he's shooting now he's hitting 18 goals. He's looking at at least 40 assists I would think (his current rate obviously unsustainable), so he will outscore Willy this year. So will Kap and Johnsson, and you will still defend the club caving to Nylanders hold-out selfish crap.

I went over this. at 10% (his average), at the rate he's shooting now he's hitting 18 goals. He's looking at at least 40 assists I would think (his current rate obviously unsustainable), so he will outscore Willy this year. So will Kap and Johnsson, and you will still defend the club caving to Nylanders hold-out selfish crap.
- aminnes

It’s been 12 games for him......

Really? You are going to do that?

I went over this. at 10% (his average), at the rate he's shooting now he's hitting 18 goals. He's looking at at least 40 assists I would think (his current rate obviously unsustainable), so he will outscore Willy this year. So will Kap and Johnsson, and you will still defend the club caving to Nylanders hold-out selfish crap.
- aminnes

so far Browns sh% has declined each season..and the trend is continuing in Ottawa, granted very short sample so far. he may settle in at 8-9%

he is a pretty average player, likable..but not miss-able

Leafs get a younger better player for 3 more years @ 3.4 mil
Brown is an RFA and will sign another deal probably at least that much...since he will get the crappy sens top line mins point bump
- senstroll

think of Bozak.

and the Blues gave him more $$

Max hates Johnsson for simply being better than he thought he was...
- Steven_Seagull

Johnsson is exactly what i think he is.
A 3rd line (fringe 2nd line) offensive minded winger that can potentially have 2-3 50 point seasons.

My bad.

Brown is obviously as good as a goal scorer as Laine, Matthews, Kane.
- Santo_44

point was; you can't use the league average if you want to guess a probable shooting percentage for a decent forward.