Next Toews idiot!
- AdamFrench

Wait, I thought Matthews is the next Toews....
Danault is the next Mike Krushelnyski

I like Connor Brown, but anyone who things he is a top 6 player is out to lunch.
- Archaic

He is easily. He will finish with as many or more points than Willy and he plays in all situations. What is your rationale for saying he isn't a top 6?

He is easily. He will finish with as many or more points than Willy and he plays in all situations. What is your rationale for saying he isn't a top 6?
- aminnes

Ask yourself, how many teams would use Brown in a top 6 role?

Ask yourself, how many teams would use Brown in a top 6 role?
- PatC80

After his rookie year, or after he was buried for Willy because Willy was a first rounder?

He is easily. He will finish with as many or more points than Willy and he plays in all situations. What is your rationale for saying he isn't a top 6?
- aminnes

I think the last few years where he wasnt a top 6 player? on the Leafs?

After his rookie year, or after he was buried for Willy because Willy was a first rounder?
- aminnes

Brown has never been a top 6 player.

Ever.

He never will be.

He is easily. He will finish with as many or more points than Willy and he plays in all situations. What is your rationale for saying he isn't a top 6?
- aminnes

After his rookie year, or after he was buried for Willy because Willy was a first rounder?
- aminnes

Babcock tried him in a top 6 role, sees him as a grinder, but he's not a top 6 player.

Babcock tried him in a top 6 role, sees him as a grinder, but he's not a top 6 player.
- PatC80

I can’t believe the goat has been buried this long behind Matthews and JT.

The guy is obviously at top 6 player

I can’t believe the goat has been buried this long behind Matthews and JT.

The guy is obviously at top 6 player
- Santo_44

the goat would be the #1C in Ottawa.. Clearly, being miscast here.

Babcock tried him in a top 6 role, sees him as a grinder, but he's not a top 6 player.
- PatC80

He played in the top 6 at 19 and was fine.

Scored more goals in his rookie year than RNH, Drais, Backstrom
He has twice as many goals as Kuznetsov did and one less point comparing their rookie years.
More goals and 3 less points than Bergeron’s rookie year.
More goals and the same amount of points as Barkov in his first full year.
More goals and more points than Couturier had in his rookie year.
Giroux didn’t hit at least 20 goals until he was 23 years old.
2 less goals and 1 point less than Sean Monahan’s rookie year.

The Leafs had a lot of good young talent - more than most teams. They just had to decide who to keep and who to let go, or burry until the cap made them let them go. They chose to pay more for the same/less player. He’s just another guy the Leafs mismanaged.

He played in the top 6 at 19 and was fine.

Scored more goals in his rookie year than RNH, Drais, Backstrom
He has twice as many goals as Kuznetsov did and one less point comparing their rookie years.
More goals and 3 less points than Bergeron’s rookie year.
More goals and the same amount of points as Barkov in his first full year.
More goals and more points than Couturier had in his rookie year.
Giroux didn’t hit at least 20 goals until he was 23 years old.
2 less goals and 1 point less than Sean Monahan’s rookie year.

The Leafs had a lot of good young talent - more than most teams. They just had to decide who to keep and who to let go, or burry until the cap made them let them go. They chose to pay more for the same/less player. He’s just another guy the Leafs mismanaged.
- aminnes

Lol

He also had a 14.5% shooting percentage his first year which was clearly not sustainable.

The average is 9%

Which would of been 12-13 goals.

He isn’t a top 6 player and it’s obvious.

He played in the top 6 at 19 and was fine.

Scored more goals in his rookie year than RNH, Drais, Backstrom
He has twice as many goals as Kuznetsov did and one less point comparing their rookie years.
More goals and 3 less points than Bergeron’s rookie year.
More goals and the same amount of points as Barkov in his first full year.
More goals and more points than Couturier had in his rookie year.
Giroux didn’t hit at least 20 goals until he was 23 years old.
2 less goals and 1 point less than Sean Monahan’s rookie year.

The Leafs had a lot of good young talent - more than most teams. They just had to decide who to keep and who to let go, or burry until the cap made them let them go. They chose to pay more for the same/less player. He’s just another guy the Leafs mismanaged.
- aminnes

All you're saying is that Brown peaked early.


That it wasn't sustainable

Lol

He also had a 14.5% shooting percentage his first year which was clearly not sustainable.

The average is 9%

Which would of been 12-13 goals.

He isn’t a top 6 player and it’s obvious.
- Santo_44

He's looking a 178 shots on goal and at his 10% average he's looking at around 18 goals. But he's also making plays. He should have at last 40 assists by the end of the year. 58 points is a top 6 forward on many teams, including the Blues, and also the Leafs whom the Blues are better than.

What are you going to say at years end when Brown outscores the Leafs 7 million dollar top 6 winger? What could you say even if Brown scores 10 or 15 less points? An he's not playing with anywhere near the calibre of guys Nylander plays with.

Club just made bad choices, this was another one.

All you're saying is that Brown peaked early.


That it wasn't sustainable
- PatC80

And yet, playing on a garbage team with lesser players is 11 points in 12 games.

Good for Brown. Hopefully for you the hawks will offer sheet him next summer. Probably 7 x 7.
- The Law

Oh Leafy fans.

He's looking a 178 shots on goal and at his 10% average he's looking at around 18 goals. But he's also making plays. He should have at last 40 assists by the end of the year. 58 points is a top 6 forward on many teams, including the Blues, and also the Leafs whom the Blues are better than.

What are you going to say at years end when Brown outscores the Leafs 7 million dollar top 6 winger? What could you say even if Brown scores 10 or 15 less points? An he's not playing with anywhere near the calibre of guys Nylander plays with.

Club just made bad choices, this was another one.
- aminnes

He’s playing 20 mins a game because he’s on a bad team.

He better be able to generate more shots it’s just simple math.

Tierny, Namestikov, Duclair, Brown...these guys aren’t top 6 players.

They will get their points this year but don’t forget what these players do when they play in their role on good teams Which is about 30 points.

He's looking a 178 shots on goal and at his 10% average he's looking at around 18 goals. But he's also making plays. He should have at last 40 assists by the end of the year. 58 points is a top 6 forward on many teams, including the Blues, and also the Leafs whom the Blues are better than.

What are you going to say at years end when Brown outscores the Leafs 7 million dollar top 6 winger? What could you say even if Brown scores 10 or 15 less points? An he's not playing with anywhere near the calibre of guys Nylander plays with.

Club just made bad choices, this was another one.
- aminnes

Well, first we would say Nylander doesn't make $7M. Then I guess, we'd say that Brown is getting over 20 minutes of ice time per game, out of necessity really (Ottawa sucks), and Nylander is getting just over 17 minutes of ice time per game.

And yet, playing on a garbage team with lesser players is 11 points in 12 games.
- aminnes

That’s what happens when you get 1st line mins on a garbage team. You get points.

He played in the top 6 at 19 and was fine.

Scored more goals in his rookie year than RNH, Drais, Backstrom
He has twice as many goals as Kuznetsov did and one less point comparing their rookie years.
More goals and 3 less points than Bergeron’s rookie year.
More goals and the same amount of points as Barkov in his first full year.
More goals and more points than Couturier had in his rookie year.
Giroux didn’t hit at least 20 goals until he was 23 years old.
2 less goals and 1 point less than Sean Monahan’s rookie year.

The Leafs had a lot of good young talent - more than most teams. They just had to decide who to keep and who to let go, or burry until the cap made them let them go. They chose to pay more for the same/less player. He’s just another guy the Leafs mismanaged.
- aminnes

sure. he was also top 6 at 20 on mcdavid's line.

but why does this matter?

And yet, playing on a garbage team with lesser players is 11 points in 12 games.
- aminnes

If Connor Brown finishes the year with over 50 points, you'll have a case to defend.

Until then, saying he's an interesting top 6 option is complese nonsense.

I don't think that's selling high on Nylander.

I don't want to trade him at all.. I think he will be better than he has shown so far.. I do think that if they did trade him, he would get you a gritty winger and a good defenseman.

Savard 4.25M Cap hit
Anderson 1.85M Cap hit

Willy 6.962M hit

We would save $800k on the cap too.
- PatC80

Will also need a new contract soon.

Have you kept up with Connor Brown?
- RedRevenge

Yup doing not to bad with the Sens.

If Connor Brown finishes the year with over 50 points, you'll have a case to defend.

Until then, saying he's an interesting top 6 option is complese nonsense.
- Scabeh

Connor Brown at 2mln aav can do the same (and actually kill penalties) as johnsson.
But johnsson has a 3.5mln aav (approx) contract.
Dubas franked up

He played in the top 6 at 19 and was fine.

Scored more goals in his rookie year than RNH, Drais, Backstrom
He has twice as many goals as Kuznetsov did and one less point comparing their rookie years.
More goals and 3 less points than Bergeron’s rookie year.
More goals and the same amount of points as Barkov in his first full year.
More goals and more points than Couturier had in his rookie year.
Giroux didn’t hit at least 20 goals until he was 23 years old.
2 less goals and 1 point less than Sean Monahan’s rookie year.

The Leafs had a lot of good young talent - more than most teams. They just had to decide who to keep and who to let go, or burry until the cap made them let them go. They chose to pay more for the same/less player. He’s just another guy the Leafs mismanaged.
- aminnes

Brown was 23 when he scored 20 goals.
all those players were 18-20 when they did those things, except Kuznetsov