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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don't even have to check your team affiliation.
If you saw something that was "very clear" that the rest of us didn't, you're a hawk fan.
Thanks for coming out

- BestRapperAlive

Candidate for post of the year!
rebel_deucer
Joined: 07.15.2011

Nov 4 @ 1:41 PM ET
This team is a contending team in transition. The defense is built to be led by Reilly, Sandin and Liljegren. Ceci was a necessity for the zaitsev contract which zaitsev has struggled in Ottawa too, (and everyone commends Lou) that being said, this team can be a contender. I think two things, health and heart 100%. Next new pairings,
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Dermott
Ceci - Hill
Ceci while not terrible or atrocious is no where even close to a top pairing. He needs to be sheltered completely and the only way for that is the bottom pairing.

Also two things I wouldn't complain about, Nylander for a gritty scorer, do it, and Kapanen for a good young up and coming defenseman do it. They are expendable for the right player easily.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
so what % of the games do you think the Leafs have played so far with the Lead?
- senstroll


% of total game time played with the lead? .....my guess is 26%?
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
I tried to warn the fanbase, but it fell on deaf ears. It was very clear (from an unbiased opinion) that the Leafs defense was lacking. In fact, the Ceci trade is looking worst and worst by the day.

The leafs need a way to an actual defensemen, but now they are lacking their 1st. Who goes and to where? Nylander? Kap?

- RedRevenge



Well where would we all be without you?

Wait... Ceci sucks?

I'd rather have one year of Ceci than 4 years of Zaitzev.


Bleedz_Blue
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 4 @ 1:44 PM ET
I'm sure Willie has some sparkley heels.

It's true... leafs need a Wendel-esque player...

Even watchin the Philly game and the look on guys like Patrick and konecny. They looked just pissed off and that kind 'f-u' attitude...

Can't see that from annny of the leafs...
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 4 @ 1:45 PM ET
This team is a contending team in transition. The defense is built to be led by Reilly, Sandin and Liljegren. Ceci was a necessity for the zaitsev contract which zaitsev has struggled in Ottawa too, (and everyone commends Lou) that being said, this team can be a contender. I think two things, health and heart 100%. Next new pairings,
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Dermott
Ceci - Hill
Ceci while not terrible or atrocious is no where even close to a top pairing. He needs to be sheltered completely and the only way for that is the bottom pairing.

Also two things I wouldn't complain about, Nylander for a gritty scorer, do it, and Kapanen for a good young up and coming defenseman do it. They are expendable for the right player easily.

- rebel_deucer


Nylander could get you both a gritty winger that can score and a good defenseman..

I'll say it again, Nylander for Josh Anderson and David Savard.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:52 PM ET
that would be great, but only 1 team is over 50% at 60% ...the fuking Broons

since you have leading/trailing/tied ..50% Leading would be elite

- senstroll


Ugh I thought we were talking about games in which the Leafs had the lead at one point, although I probably would still have said 50%
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 4 @ 1:53 PM ET
Well where would we all be without you?

Wait... Ceci sucks?

I'd rather have one year of Ceci than 4 years of Zaitzev.

- .HOHO.


meh, only comes around once a month.

but was a little longer this time .... i thought one of the boys in here got her pregnant
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
This team is a contending team in transition. The defense is built to be led by Reilly, Sandin and Liljegren. Ceci was a necessity for the zaitsev contract which zaitsev has struggled in Ottawa too, (and everyone commends Lou) that being said, this team can be a contender. I think two things, health and heart 100%. Next new pairings,
Reilly - Barrie
Muzzin - Dermott
Ceci - Hill
Ceci while not terrible or atrocious is no where even close to a top pairing. He needs to be sheltered completely and the only way for that is the bottom pairing.

Also two things I wouldn't complain about, Nylander for a gritty scorer, do it, and Kapanen for a good young up and coming defenseman do it. They are expendable for the right player easily.

- rebel_deucer


You cannot explain the Ceci situation so easily. They had a chance to get out from under that cap hit. The decided to pay that much and take a chance, and right now that looks like a bad call.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
% of total game time played with the lead? .....my guess is 26%?
- The Law


decent guess, here is the list

https://twitter.com/DimFi...tatus/1191398792278376454

Leafs 31%, middle of the pack.. pretty much where they have been all season it feels like...in every facet.

What is Boston doing... and w'peg at 16%

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
Well where would we all be without you?

Wait... Ceci sucks?

I'd rather have one year of Ceci than 4 years of Zaitzev.

- .HOHO.


True.

but 0 years of Ceci, or a more easily trade-able contract would have been better still.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
Nylander could get you both a gritty winger that can score and a good defenseman..

I'll say it again, Nylander for Josh Anderson and David Savard.

- PatC80

YOU will say it again 😡
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:57 PM ET
Nylander could get you both a gritty winger that can score and a good defenseman..

I'll say it again, Nylander for Josh Anderson and David Savard.

- PatC80


You would be lucky to get one of them. I don't think the Leafs would be selling high at the moment.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
I tried to warn the fanbase, but it fell on deaf ears. It was very clear (from an unbiased opinion) that the Leafs defense was lacking. In fact, the Ceci trade is looking worst and worst by the day.

The leafs need a way to an actual defensemen, but now they are lacking their 1st. Who goes and to where? Nylander? Kap?

- RedRevenge


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 4 @ 2:06 PM ET
You would be lucky to get one of them. I don't think the Leafs would be selling high at the moment.
- Aetherial


I don't think that's selling high on Nylander.

I don't want to trade him at all.. I think he will be better than he has shown so far.. I do think that if they did trade him, he would get you a gritty winger and a good defenseman.

Savard 4.25M Cap hit
Anderson 1.85M Cap hit

Willy 6.962M hit

We would save $800k on the cap too.
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Nov 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
Well where would we all be without you?

Wait... Ceci sucks?

I'd rather have one year of Ceci than 4 years of Zaitzev.

- .HOHO.


Have you kept up with Connor Brown?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 4 @ 2:12 PM ET
I don't think that's selling high on Nylander.

I don't want to trade him at all.. I think he will be better than he has shown so far.. I do think that if they did trade him, he would get you a gritty winger and a good defenseman.

Savard 4.25M Cap hit
Anderson 1.85M Cap hit

Willy 6.962M hit

We would save $800k on the cap too.

- PatC80


RIP to next season when Anderson asks for more money.

Wont happen anyways.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 4 @ 2:13 PM ET
Have you kept up with Connor Brown?
- RedRevenge

I love when 3rd line scoring wingers go to poop teams and do well.

Namestikov, Brown, Tierny....good for them, lets not forget what they are on a good team.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
RIP to next season when Anderson asks for more money.

Wont happen anyways.

- Santo_44



I know it won't, and I don't want to trade Nylander.. But that's the type of deal I would look for, if I had to trade him
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
decent guess, here is the list

https://twitter.com/DimFi...tatus/1191398792278376454

Leafs 31%, middle of the pack.. pretty much where they have been all season it feels like...in every facet.

What is Boston doing... and w'peg at 16%

- senstroll


Carolina and Edmonton ... Would've expected better differential between %lead and %trail for both.

Bruins have been almost perfect. Take and early lead and hold it down.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
I love when 3rd line scoring wingers go to poop teams and do well.

Namestikov, Brown, Tierny....good for them, lets not forget what they are on a good team.

- Santo_44


this is true for sure...

in Brown's case (can't speak for the others) the nonsense about comparing him with Nylander is silly... its opportunity based completely,

and in this particular case Browns 2M$ CAP hit was too much once the Three Amigos signed overpriced deals... if the combination of Nylander, Matthews and Marner had signed for a 1.5M$ less, Brown wouldn't have needed to be moved.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
this is true for sure...

in Brown's case (can't speak for the others) the nonsense about comparing him with Nylander is silly... its opportunity based completely,

and in this particular case Browns 2M$ CAP hit was too much once the Three Amigos signed overpriced deals... if the combination of Nylander, Matthews and Marner had signed for a 1.5M$ less, Brown wouldn't have needed to be moved.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Meh, he would still be paid $2M to play on our 4th line..
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Have you kept up with Connor Brown?
- RedRevenge


Good for Brown. Hopefully for you the hawks will offer sheet him next summer. Probably 7 x 7.
Bleedz_Blue
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.21.2011

Nov 4 @ 2:24 PM ET
I know it won't, and I don't want to trade Nylander.. But that's the type of deal I would look for, if I had to trade him
- PatC80


I'd rather do Willie to ducks for Manson and ritchie... altho... Manson is out for the next little while (mcl sprain)... but imo manson is better than savard (especially in the tough/shut down role we need) but Anderson is better than ritchie (but would cost less probably).

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 4 @ 2:24 PM ET
this is true for sure...

in Brown's case (can't speak for the others) the nonsense about comparing him with Nylander is silly... its opportunity based completely,

and in this particular case Browns 2M$ CAP hit was too much once the Three Amigos signed overpriced deals... if the combination of Nylander, Matthews and Marner had signed for a 1.5M$ less, Brown wouldn't have needed to be moved.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Brown was done here.

Be mad that we had to use him to get rid of a stupid mistake by Lou in signing Z.

We could of gotten a 2nd for him.
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