Skalapy
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Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC Joined: 07.11.2006
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Aside from the fact that Kovalev had a ridiculous shot, could just deke and go through anyone in the league and was as strong as a goddamn horse.... yeah sure... they both had blond hair. - Scabeh
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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I think Nylander still has another level he can get too, he just doesn't always show it.. - PatC80
I honestly think he will get better with more maturity. He's still young.
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Willie's pretty much modeling his game after Patty Kane. Willie's 0.3 hits/GP is exactly the same as Kane's career #'s - 21peter
Now he just needs to double his points. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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I honestly think he will get better with more maturity. He's still young. - Archaic
I agree.. I think he could be so much better. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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I agree.. I think he could be so much better. - PatC80
If we want to be cup winners/contenders he needs to be for sure. |
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Now he just needs to double his points. - Garnie
HE NEED BETTER LINEMATES!!! |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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That's exactly my point, thank you..
Nylander can be so much more, I don't know if it's about being lazy, or lacking passion or his 'give-a-poop meter is stuck at 0..
Similar to Kovalev, who at times, looked like an all-world player and other times looked like he didn't even want to be on the ice..
IMO, both Nylander and Kovalev are really good players that have, or had, more to give but couldn't or wouldn't do it with any consistency. - PatC80
Outside of willie not giving 100% most nights like kovalev, the comparisons ends there. Kovalev was on a another level that willie just cant see right now. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I agree.. I think he could be so much better. - PatC80
We hope so. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Outside of willie not giving 100% most nights like kovalev, the comparisons ends there. Kovalev was on a another level that willie just cant see right now. - Fakepartofme
Right, and that's my point..
When he wanted to be at that level, he would. Just wasn't always the case. I think Nylander can also reach that level. We've seen flashes of it from him, he has it in him. |
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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON Joined: 06.26.2015
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new month
new blog
new team
#LETSGO |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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HE NEED BETTER LINEMATES!!! - 21peter
Haha, nice try. |
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Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC Joined: 07.11.2006
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I agree.. I think he could be so much better. - PatC80
just like yakapoop😍 |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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just like yakapoop😍 - Skalapy
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Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC Joined: 07.11.2006
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Outside of willie not giving 100% most nights like kovalev, the comparisons ends there. Kovalev was on a another level that willie just cant see right now. - Fakepartofme
he sees ghosts 🤣
edit:lmfaooooooooo |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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just like yakapoop😍 - Skalapy
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Right, and that's my point..
When he wanted to be at that level, he would. Just wasn't always the case. I think Nylander can also reach that level. We've seen flashes of it from him, he has it in him. - PatC80
Weve seen flashes of him and know he can be better for sure.
But still hasnt shown anything that he could be like kovalev at his best. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Weve seen flashes of him and know he can be better for sure.
But still hasnt shown anything that he could be like kovalev at his best. - Fakepartofme
I disagree.. Kovalev was 28 years old, the first time he averaged more than a point per game in a season.. I think Nylander is closer to Kovalev than you think. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I get where you're coming from, but I don't think it's accurate for any number of reasons. Matthews can and has back checked effectively. Matthews knows that offense stems from defense, but half the time he doesn't do it. Or he's getting lost in his coverage - but he's there, which means he will get better. When we got Kessel, he arrived from a defensively sound Boston team at the age of 22 with no ability to play defense after 3 years of being told and taught to play defense surrounded by guys who were doing just that. Matthews is just 22 and is on a team that doesn't offer a lot of defensive role models, so he's still developing. I have faith in him. I'm not forgiving his inconsistent effort and play this year. He's a big man. He should learn to absorb hits and play his size.
Kessel was never down low in the defensive zone. If he was, someone probably whacked his stick there after knocking it out of his hands. Or he was running away from John Scott.
The similarity between the two is the lethal wrist shot. Kessel's similarities to Nylander are that he has good breakout speed and generates offense from the wing on the rush - but I agree that Nylander doesn't have the shot, so his offense is based on zone entry and then finding someone to dish with or finish for him. - Monkeypunk
The biggest difference between Nylander and Kessel is production.
IF Matthews started actually trying in his own zone then the comparison to Kessel would be less accurate. Lately, Matthews is making highlight-reel lazy plays in his own zone. There were a couple truly laughable moments on Saturday. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Explain - Fakepartofme
Think of everything people criticized Kessel for and then tell me that Matthews is an improvement.
Matthews has a better shot, but they had similar numbers. In fact, there was a 3 year period where Kessel had the better numbers by comparicsn to the league. Similar effort in their own zone and I seriously question Matthews gas tank given the fact that he floats around doing nothing a lot of the time.
I am not saying Matthews *can't* be more than Kessel. I am saying he isn't right now, and not for the past 2 years frankly.
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Willie's pretty much modeling his game after Patty Kane. Willie's 0.3 hits/GP is exactly the same as Kane's career #'s - 21peter
Yeah, just like I am modelling my game after Messier.
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leafsfann
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Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: 05.11.2014
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Aside from the fact that Kovalev had a ridiculous shot, could just deke and go through anyone in the league and was as strong as a goddamn horse.... yeah sure... they both had blond hair. - Scabeh
Kovalev was a beast when he wanted to be. That certainly wasn't game in and game out, though. His inconsistency held the Habs back in the 2000s. As much as I hate the Scabs, I'll give credit where it's due. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Think of everything people criticized Kessel for and then tell me that Matthews is an improvement.
Matthews has a better shot, but they had similar numbers. In fact, there was a 3 year period where Kessel had the better numbers by comparicsn to the league. Similar effort in their own zone and I seriously question Matthews gas tank given the fact that he floats around doing nothing a lot of the time.
I am not saying Matthews *can't* be more than Kessel. I am saying he isn't right now, and not for the past 2 years frankly. - Aetherial
Okay come on.
I agree that Matthews needs to work on his defensive game but don't go crazy here.
Matthews did what Kessel was supposed to do for his entire tenure here in his rookie season by scoring 40 goals. He has been the best 5v5 goal scorer in the entire NHL as C...
I get the frustration but don't go overboard.
Also Matthews has back checked more times in his past 3 games than Kessel has in his entire life. |
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Mike Augello
Commissioner Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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