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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Oct 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
He did get a little better at his all around game. Not much but he did.

Trotz told him you do want I want you to do defensively and you do what you want to do offensively. Seemed to work out fine.

- LeafGuy89


well id hope after 10+ years in the NHL he'd learn how to improve "a bit"

again the point I'm trying to make here is that OVI didn't change much, his team improved and he was the sniper. he didn't have to change much, but I'm not sure why he's bragging like he changes his entire game so the caps could win.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:19 AM ET
well id hope after 10+ years in the NHL he'd learn how to improve "a bit"

again the point I'm trying to make here is that OVI didn't change much, his team improved and he was the sniper. he didn't have to change much, but I'm not sure why he's bragging like he changes his entire game so the caps could win.

- Lucas.Neilson


I think he changed, somewhat.

The thing is, he was always a beast. Yeah he scores a lot from the same spot, but Ovechkin has always had a very physical edge to his game that no Leafs players have.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 31 @ 11:23 AM ET
well id hope after 10+ years in the NHL he'd learn how to improve "a bit"

again the point I'm trying to make here is that OVI didn't change much, his team improved and he was the sniper. he didn't have to change much, but I'm not sure why he's bragging like he changes his entire game so the caps could win.

- Lucas.Neilson

He did change his game.
Became less selfish.
Hes a cup champ, one of the best scorers in the game. He can say what he wants.
This soft leafs team needs to hear it
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:24 AM ET
nothing like the leafs running into boston who won the cup or capitals who won the cup

and ovi has always shot a lot and always hit, he's still in the same spot shift after shift and sits and waits for the big blaster. that's his game.

- Lucas.Neilson


It always baffles me how he finds a way to be left alone at that spot.

He must have scored over 250 goals from there, you'd think someone would be on to him.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:25 AM ET
Ovie was spot on in his assessment. Ovie has had his share of disappointment over the years before he got his cup! No he hasn't had to change his game dramatically but he has adjusted. There was a lot of Summers that he was reflecting after putting up big numbers but was called a no-heart Russian who can't win when it counts!
I certainly didn't take his comments as a dig, I actually think Ovie kind of likes the Leafs and is pulling for them to get it together. He definitely sees a lot of similarities in the Leafs from his earlier years in Washington. He wasn't always a 200ft player and still not sometimes but now he knows when to do it and when it's not required...hence the PP. He hovers around the dot because he knows and the team knows that's it's pretty much money every time he wires it from the point! You don't fix what's not broken!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 31 @ 11:28 AM ET
well id hope after 10+ years in the NHL he'd learn how to improve "a bit"

again the point I'm trying to make here is that OVI didn't change much, his team improved and he was the sniper. he didn't have to change much, but I'm not sure why he's bragging like he changes his entire game so the caps could win.

- Lucas.Neilson


The Caps team that won the cup that year was not their best. In fact their GM had said the summer before that it might be a little bit of a down year as they had spent a lot of assets the year before. It was a complete buy in that got them there. Idk if you like +/- or not, but Ovi was a +8 in the playoffs
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:28 AM ET
It always baffles me how he finds a way to be left alone at that spot.

He must have scored over 250 goals from there, you'd think someone would be on to him.

- Scabeh

I'm going to say 500 goals from that spot.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 31 @ 11:28 AM ET
It always baffles me how he finds a way to be left alone at that spot.

He must have scored over 250 goals from there, you'd think someone would be on to him.

- Scabeh


Well when their is another guy (Carlson) that has a rocket of a shot as well. It makes it more difficult to cover both!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:29 AM ET
Leafs 7 - LA 1

Then we’ll all be friends again.

GO CANES GO
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 31 @ 11:31 AM ET
Leafs 7 - LA 1

Then we’ll all be friends again.

GO CANES GO

- Garnie

Dont we have to play philly first?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:35 AM ET
If it didn't happen at EVS how was Tavares a -5, Marner a -4 and Hyman a -3?
- AdamFrench

Who uses +/- anymore?

It's all about the amount of goals that your team scores at even strength when you're the ice vs the amount of goals that the other team scores at even strength when you're the ice. That's the real data we should be capturing.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:35 AM ET
He did change his game.
Became less selfish.
Hes a cup champ, one of the best scorers in the game. He can say what he wants.
This soft leafs team needs to hear it

- Fakepartofme


Agreed. And if this continues then the next step is for feelings to be hurt. Call some individuals out ...Shanny put them on blast in the dressing room.

Also have to wonder if Ovi should/could be saying the same thing about Tampa, Calgary and Winnipeg. All playing below their level.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:36 AM ET
Dont we have to play philly first?
- Fakepartofme


Edit

Philly 4 Leafs 2

Sorry, a few more days of hating each other.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
Edit

Philly 4 Leafs 2

Sorry, a few more days of hating each other.

- Garnie

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
Dont we have to play philly first?
- Fakepartofme

Yes we do, but i like his idea better.

Feb 2nd, 2020 - Leafs at Rangers

6-4 Leafs. Matthews x 2, Snakes x 2, Nylander and Kerfoot.

Leafs blow a 4-0 lead in the 2nd, but recuperate just in time.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:39 AM ET
Well when their is another guy (Carlson) that has a rocket of a shot as well. It makes it more difficult to cover both!
- LeafGuy89


Agreed. Tavares on the post, Johnsson, Marner and Rielly with softies ...makes Matthews an easier defensive assignment for the PK.

We miss Kadri's underated snapper from the crease. Willie has a great shot but he doesn't use the (frank)ing thing.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:40 AM ET
Edit

Philly 4 Leafs 2

Sorry, a few more days of hating each other.

- Garnie


You'll get nothing but love from me though.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:40 AM ET
Agreed. And if this continues then the next step is for feelings to be hurt. Call some individuals out ...Shanny put them on blast in the dressing room.

Also have to wonder if Ovi should/could be saying the same thing about Tampa, Calgary and Winnipeg. All playing below their level.

- The Law

Nope, because there would probably be some push back.

Imagine a guy calling out your team, basically saying you're selfish and you don't have a clue on how to win.

Then you get a chance to push back and prove to said guy he's wrong.

Then said guy's team beats you and said guy scores the winner.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:40 AM ET
Well when their is another guy (Carlson) that has a rocket of a shot as well. It makes it more difficult to cover both!
- LeafGuy89



That's why we need Barrie on PP1.

So the focus is not solely on Matthews.

BrenosBagels
Washington Capitals
Joined: 03.05.2019

Oct 31 @ 11:41 AM ET
nothing like the leafs running into boston who won the cup or capitals who won the cup

and ovi has always shot a lot and always hit, he's still in the same spot shift after shift and sits and waits for the big blaster. that's his game.

- Lucas.Neilson


If it aint broke, dont fix it...there is a reason hes on pace to best literally the best goal scorer of all time. He doesnt need to change offensively because hes the GOAT goal scorer

He changed his game defensively. Look at his career progression on the defensive end of the ice. For the love of god people do your research
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:41 AM ET
It always baffles me how he finds a way to be left alone at that spot.

He must have scored over 250 goals from there, you'd think someone would be on to him.

- Scabeh

Hockey players are not the brightest.

Ours don't even know when to start.
mpr29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Cheering for the Leafs is like going to church when you know there is no God”
Joined: 10.26.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:46 AM ET
As for Ovechkin…

He wasn’t so far off on his assessment of the Maple Leafs. They do need to play more of a team game and concentrate on all aspects of the game and not just scoring goals.


As if he cares if the Leafs win the cup or not. He was refering specifically to Matthews here seeing as he's one of his competitors for the Richard Trophy - sly old commie.



The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:49 AM ET
Nope, because there would probably be some push back.

Imagine a guy calling out your team, basically saying you're selfish and you don't have a clue on how to win.

Then you get a chance to push back and prove to said guy he's wrong.

Then said guy's team beats you and said guy scores the winner.

- walshyleafsfan


Ahhh ..
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:50 AM ET
Leafs 7 - LA 1

Then we’ll all be friends again.

GO CANES GO

- Garnie


8-0 LA

Matthews 8 goals

Aetherial still calls for his head

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 31 @ 11:50 AM ET
Leafs 7 - LA 1

Then we’ll all be friends again.

GO CANES GO

- Garnie


8-0 LA

Matthews 8 goals

Aetherial still calls for his head

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