Extend the year? What kid wouldn’t want that? I’m not allowed to go on strike, and they shouldn’t be either.
- Ogilthorpe2

Thank Reagan

I just wish you were a substitute teacher for a month....
- wiz1901

no thank you

80-125k a year with a full pension and tenure for a 9 month job isn’t bad. Never heard a group of people complain so consistently about the career that they chose.
- Ogilthorpe2

I NEVER made 80 K when I retired in 2006...maybe in a suburban system like Glendbard were the TAX Base helps increase salarires and any after school coaching or extras are counted towards your pension....doesnt happen in the City.

Teachers may not have the opportunity to get rich but they can certainly be very comfortable for life. Less upside but a lot less downside too.
- DarthKane

Oh, I am comfortable now due to some good investments and savings but until you have taught, just like until you are a police peace officer, or a fireman, it is tough to understand the magnitude and things you go through day to day....

Vancouver looking poised to be a Wild Card team this year with the spectacular play of Pettersson and Boeser. Nucks could use Seabrook
- EnzoD

If they keep this up they won't be a wild card, they will be in the top 1-2 in their division.

Oh, I am comfortable now due to some good investments and savings but until you have taught, just like until you are a police peace officer, or a fireman, it is tough to understand the magnitude and things you go through day to day....
- wiz1901

That can be said about any profession, it doesn't make teaching any more or less challenging than other roles.

allright...why does buff sit around all summer with an injury and then decide 6 months later to have surgery...do the jets not manage their employees in the offseason??
- bogiedoc

Probably because he doesn't want to play hockey this year.

That can be said about any profession, it doesn't make teaching any more or less challenging than other roles.
- DarthKane

LOL


do its first then tell me that ANY profession is close- no water cooler time, long periods in situations you cannot leave...because you are liable, and constantly having to pull together discussion, focus and learning, actually ANY to me or to anybody who has done it, doesn't apply.

!) I agree with lightfoot. don't pay the teachers there full salary because they take 2 weeks off..
- kmw4631

Just curious...

all of you bumping your gums...how many actual weeks off do your jobs give you, honestly?

CTU teachers get ten paid vacation days a year....
they get paid one off the two weeks at Christmas laid off the other.

Paid for holidays like Thanksgiving (that is a bonus second day)

("You teachers, you get the entire summer off")
prior to maybe 2000, you had to budget that $ summer long or work elsewhere, now the Board has all on year round, so the money all employees already earned IS HELD to be allotted in two week checks all summer, basically they are making money on the money of others.

While I taught the board borrowed Money FROM the teachers union, still couldn't budget well, and they closed the schools and we were laid off.

If you think any Chicago teacher ever wanted to Strike stand in a picket line or didn't have more than their wallets and pocketbooks in mind by doing so, you are delusional.

See you all after Thanksgiving.

Stick to discussing whatever you want on this hockey website, but you all better and more valued in the hockey opinions...

80-125k a year with a full pension and tenure for a 9 month job isn’t bad. Never heard a group of people complain so consistently about the career that they chose.
- Ogilthorpe2

Except wherever you are getting your numbers is bullcrap. I was a teacher for 10 years in River Forest (super wealthy) and with a bachelors and a masters after 10 years my base salary was 52k, nowhere near the numbers you are incorrectly spouting off. It's not a 9 month job, it's a 60-80 hour a week job during those 9 months that averages out to exactly as much as you regular 9-5ers would do. Your argument literally has no foundation to stand on, especially if you've never done the job. The teachers have every reason to strike for better pay and a better work environment.

LOL


do its first then tell me that ANY profession is close- no water cooler time, long periods in situations you cannot leave...because you are liable, and constantly having to pull together discussion, focus and learning, actually ANY to me or to anybody who has done it, doesn't apply.
- wiz1901

No doubt it's a tough job, but not one I would put at the top of my empathy list. That would probably belong to either nurses and/or the staff at senior care facilities.

Just curious...

all of you bumping your gums...how many actual weeks off do your jobs give you, honestly?

CTU teachers get ten paid vacation days a year....
they get paid one off the two weeks at Christmas laid off the other.

Paid for holidays like Thanksgiving (that is a bonus second day)

("You teachers, you get the entire summer off")
prior to maybe 2000, you had to budget that $ summer long or work elsewhere, now the Board has all on year round, so the money all employees already earned IS HELD to be allotted in two week checks all summer, basically they are making money on the money of others.

While I taught the board borrowed Money FROM the teachers union, still couldn't budget well, and they closed the schools and we were laid off.

If you think any Chicago teacher ever wanted to Strike stand in a picket line or didn't have more than their wallets and pocketbooks in mind by doing so, you are delusional.

See you all after Thanksgiving.

Stick to discussing whatever you want on this hockey website, but you all better and more valued in the hockey opinions...
- wiz1901

I am retired. I worked at Abbott Labs for 30 years. FWIW

Years 1-10: 2 weeks
11-15: 3 weeks
16-20: 4 weeks
20-30: 5 weeks

its more generous now...all new employees start with 3 weeks

First the Hawks announce Dach is here to stay, the next day they recall Boqvist. Will this mark the shift to their youth movement?

Except wherever you are getting your numbers is bullcrap. I was a teacher for 10 years in River Forest (super wealthy) and with a bachelors and a masters after 10 years my base salary was 52k, nowhere near the numbers you are incorrectly spouting off. It's not a 9 month job, it's a 60-80 hour a week job during those 9 months that averages out to exactly as much as you regular 9-5ers would do. Your argument literally has no foundation to stand on, especially if you've never done the job. The teachers have every reason to strike for better pay and a better work environment.
- Budi1782

80 hour weeks? That is 11 hour days everyday of the week.... wonder how those CPS teachers make it to my summer volleyball and softball leagues at 6pm......

Working 80 hour weeks during winter vacation too?

That can be said about any profession, it doesn't make teaching any more or less challenging than other roles.
- DarthKane

But it's one of those in which doing a bad job or not having tools to do the job is much more consequential to society at large.

First the Hawks announce Dach is here to stay, the next day they recall Boqvist. Will this mark the shift to their youth movement?
- DarthKane

no...tomorrow its versteeg...

First the Hawks announce Dach is here to stay, the next day they recall Boqvist. Will this mark the shift to their youth movement?
- DarthKane

What do you do with the current roster then? Gus on the move? While he is playing like crap... probably won't get a whole lot in return.

no...tomorrow its versteeg...
- bogiedoc

Hahahah

That would be a classic "getting the band back together" Bowman move

I am retired. I worked at Abbott Labs for 30 years. FWIW

Years 1-10: 2 weeks
11-15: 3 weeks
16-20: 4 weeks
20-30: 5 weeks

its more generous now...all new employees start with 3 weeks
- bogiedoc

Thanks for posting!

Wow. Boqvist called. Don't really agree with the move but what do I know?

Dach staying full-time... sure.

... so many things to talk about.

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80 hour weeks? That is 11 hour days everyday of the week.... wonder how those CPS teachers make it to my summer volleyball and softball leagues at 6pm......

Working 80 hour weeks during winter vacation too?
- bhawks2241

I'm talking about during the school year, not during the summer. And yes, there were many MANY nights I would be closing the school down with the janitors at 9 or 10pm on a weeknight. The days I actually did go home at maybe 4pm? Then I'd be grading at home for 3-4 hours a night, lesson planning, answer at least 10-15 emails from parents or other staff, etc. I was not alone in doing any of that, and this was in a high performing district. So yeah, during those 9 months of school, many teachers were working far more than 40 hours a week. So if you actually read what I said, then you'd get my point that the 60-80 hours a week we put in would roughly balance out to your 9-5 job 12 months a year with 3-4 weeks paid vacation. It's the same equivalent, yet all of us have more high ed degrees and got less pay. Very few teachers I knew at our district got paid over 100k, and I would know considering I had all the numbers for the district being our union president. None of you have any argument that will refute that teachers are over worked and underpaid. Period.

allright...why does buff sit around all summer with an injury and then decide 6 months later to have surgery...do the jets not manage their employees in the offseason??
- bogiedoc

I believe I read that his doctor thought it would heal without surgery. It didn't so he had it now.

What do you do with the current roster then? Gus on the move? While he is playing like crap... probably won't get a whole lot in return.
- bhawks2241

What indications are there that his play will improve before the TDL? I highly doubt Gus is going to flip the switch and he might actually not become a big defensive liability.

I'm just curious here, but from what we have seen in boqvist up to this point, he clearly brings a offensive threat from the backend that Chicago is deeply missing .

I guess if he can help ignite some offensive production , wouldn't that make Gus expendable?

Their might be some trade chatter regarding Seabrook? Teams mentioned Edmonton and I believe Montreal?
- Taylorst1

You continue to make things up. Neither of those teams have ever been mentioned. If you're as smart as you think you are you'd know that neither of those teams wants aging overpaid players and don'y have the cap space even if they did.

I'm talking about during the school year, not during the summer. And yes, there were many MANY nights I would be closing the school down with the janitors at 9 or 10pm on a weeknight. The days I actually did go home at maybe 4pm? Then I'd be grading at home for 3-4 hours a night, lesson planning, answer at least 10-15 emails from parents or other staff, etc. I was not alone in doing any of that, and this was in a high performing district. So yeah, during those 9 months of school, many teachers were working far more than 40 hours a week. So if you actually read what I said, then you'd get my point that the 60-80 hours a week we put in would roughly balance out to your 9-5 job 12 months a year with 3-4 weeks paid vacation. It's the same equivalent, yet all of us have more high ed degrees and got less pay. Very few teachers I knew at our district got paid over 100k, and I would know considering I had all the numbers for the district being our union president. None of you have any argument that will refute that teachers are over worked and underpaid. Period.
- Budi1782

The fact that many educators have to crowdfund basic supplies on donorschoose.org just breaks my heart (daughter of a former educator and thankful recipient of a well-funded district's public school education).