It's nerdier than that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_esotericism

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._path_and_right-hand_path

At least the right-hand path "magicians" have a lot of sex
- jcragcrumple

For free?

California is the best place has lots of things to do
I understand it's expensive but that's because of all the attractions they have the best food /besides pizza and wings / where can you get a beet Burger with melted goat cheese with a homemade gluten-free bun only here..
- gerbe75pts

Blasphemy!

Well i stayed a week in venice beach and had to park a 15 minute walk from my airbnb
- robz228

not to mention the cost to park in a garage.

Last trip was San Pedro by the USS Iowa. We got parking included in the group rate, but was like something crazy like 30-40 a night parking otherwise.

California is the best place has lots of things to do
I understand it's expensive but that's because of all the attractions they have the best food /besides pizza and wings / where can you get a beet Burger with melted goat cheese with a homemade gluten-free bun only here..
- gerbe75pts

I mean, there's definitely ways to get around it, but in general it was brutal. Parking when you get to where you're going sucks too. I guess I'm just used to having a bit more space. I grew up in Angola and get crabby about the traffic in Amherst on Transit Rd sooooooo I guess that's all you need to know about me.

It's easier to get around in NYC honestly.
- HonkFortheGoose

Same. I live on the Amherst-Buffalo-Cheektowaga border and work downtown. It's about a 10 minute commute for me. I get irritated when the 33 backs up. I think part of my frustration is that our population is so small that most of the traffic backups are inexplicable.

A lot of the things we like better are due to a lower population. If this city ever really started flourishing economically, we would all probably be in trouble because our highway system in WNY is not prepared to handle it.

California is the best place has lots of things to do
I understand it's expensive but that's because of all the attractions they have the best food /besides pizza and wings / where can you get a beet Burger with melted goat cheese with a homemade gluten-free bun only here..
- gerbe75pts

Nothing about a Beet should ever be referred to as a burger.

I went out to LA to visit some family back in August. It's great to visit, but I will tell you I'd lose my sh!t if I had to deal with that traffic on a daily basis. That is a HARD PASS from me.

Hour and a half to go 13 miles. F that.....l
- HonkFortheGoose

That's the only bad part the traffic but it's worth it at the end

not to mention the cost to park in a garage.

Last trip was San Pedro by the USS Iowa. We got parking included in the group rate, but was like something crazy like 30-40 a night parking otherwise.
- hubie

Nashville prices right now.

The hotel in Buffalo i stayed in charged $23 a night.
(Hyatt Regency)

Same. I live on the Amherst-Buffalo-Cheektowaga border and work downtown. It's about a 10 minute commute for me. I get irritated when the 33 backs up. I think part of my frustration is that our population is so small that most of the traffic backups are inexplicable.

A lot of the things we like better are due to a lower population. If this city ever really started flourishing economically, we would all probably be in trouble because our highway system in WNY is not prepared to handle it.
- buffalofan19

If Cleveland can so can Buffalo if the right leadership is in place to drive that change.

But demographics are showing that people are starting to move from larger cities in favor of smaller ones.

Have to pay attention to that stuff for recruiting. Long story short, Buffalo has got a shot if the right leadership gets in place.

It's a cool city that's under rated.

Same. I live on the Amherst-Buffalo-Cheektowaga border and work downtown. It's about a 10 minute commute for me. I get irritated when the 33 backs up. I think part of my frustration is that our population is so small that most of the traffic backups are inexplicable.

A lot of the things we like better are due to a lower population. If this city ever really started flourishing economically, we would all probably be in trouble because our highway system in WNY is not prepared to handle it.
- buffalofan19

Very true. I often wonder why a highway gets backed up in general. Who the hell is coming to a stop that's causing it? If everyone gets on and does the speed limit, then there's no reason why it should slow down like it does. Or at least that's what logic tells me.

They really need to figure out a way to reconfigure where 290/90/33 all essentially come together, because that right there is a mess. It's a bit better since they made some changes over there the last few years, but it still bottlenecks there all the time.

If Cleveland can so can Buffalo if the right leadership is in place to drive that change.

But demographics are showing that people are starting to move from larger cities in favor of smaller ones.

Have to pay attention to that stuff for recruiting. Long story short, Buffalo has got a shot if the right leadership gets in place.

It's a cool city that's under rated.
- gcomella34

people are still bleeding out of new york though so i think buffalo has a bigger obstacle to overcome than themselves

This thread:

California is the best place has lots of things to do
I understand it's expensive but that's because of all the attractions they have the best food /besides pizza and wings / where can you get a beet Burger with melted goat cheese with a homemade gluten-free bun only here..
- gerbe75pts

I will say ive had some incredible meals out there.

Long Beach the Saint and Second.... was incredible

people are still bleeding out of new york though so i think buffalo has a bigger obstacle to overcome than themselves
- robz228

Agreed.....but I don't want to start talking about causes there. This could get real ugly, REAL fast.

I live in an area that has been, I think, WAY harder than Buffalo in the Southern Tier.


We've lost TONS of people.

That's the only bad part the traffic but it's worth it at the end
- gerbe75pts

I don't know. I have quite a few family/friends that live out there and deal with it, but I don't think they'd say the same thing as you. One of them specifically won't take a job tht requires more than a 40 minute drive from his house. So, like 10 miles max basically. The ones that live out there do it for very specific reasons and would come back here if the situation was different.

Jack ECHL--"Coach-killer"
- Michael Pachla

Just so you know Henri Richard of the Montreal Canadiens publicly called Al McNeil "the worst coach I have ever played for." in 1971. Richard was nothing short of a classy player but sometimes things have to be said.

Yeah But beaches and celebritiessss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111
- TheSabresTaco

How is cost of living not a metric used?

That is a huge issue to just ignore.

Agreed.....but I don't want to start talking about causes there. This could get real ugly, REAL fast.

I live in an area that has been, I think, WAY harder than Buffalo in the Southern Tier.


We've lost TONS of people.
- gcomella34

i won't be here too much longer i think. either florida, a carolina, maybe georgia. the older i get the more i hate the weather.

On the Matt Moulson thing, I don't feel any sympathy for players who get paid huge money and don't work.

Okposo is a disaster of a contract, but at least he has embraced a work ethic and fourth line role that makes him a genuine contributor on the ice. I can't blame him for not living up to his contract, but I could blame him for not giving 100%. If anything, you have to admire a guy who is used to scoring learning how to play without the puck and support other guys who get to score.

Moulson was almost always out of shape and did nothing. And he got rich doing so. If he hated the job so much, he could have always quit and saved us a ton of money. Instead he collected his checks.

Also, Bylsma wasn't perfect, but MM trying to put the blame there because he was the slowest player in the NHL is rich. What was Bylsma supposed to say?

Very true. I often wonder why a highway gets backed up in general. Who the hell is coming to a stop that's causing it? If everyone gets on and does the speed limit, then there's no reason why it should slow down like it does. Or at least that's what logic tells me.

They really need to figure out a way to reconfigure where 290/90/33 all essentially come together, because that right there is a mess. It's a bit better since they made some changes over there the last few years, but it still bottlenecks there all the time.
- HonkFortheGoose

Somehow, adding that extra lane where the 90 and the 33 meet has made things worse.

i won't be here too much longer i think. either florida, a carolina, maybe georgia. the older i get the more i hate the weather.
- robz228

Visit Nashville and check it out.
Unless you're looking to live near a beach.

For free?
- jochfr

Yeah, unfortunately it's with uncle fester though

Visit Nashville and check it out.
Unless you're looking to live near a beach.
- jochfr

top 3 favorite cities to visit... not sure i could live there long term but the few I know who do love it.

Anytime your into is less than a couple hours away.

people are still bleeding out of new york though so i think buffalo has a bigger obstacle to overcome than themselves
- robz228

1) Taxes
1-A) Corrupted Govt Constantly ranked as the worst of all 50 states.
2) Cost of living is inflating at a higher rate than Salaries
3) Pay grade. Buffalo for some reason is still a place employers feel they can "Pay people less"
4) Weather is not worth the above three.5

Visit Nashville and check it out.
Unless you're looking to live near a beach.
- jochfr

Yeah i want a beach. Or good hiking.

California has both but i cant afford it