But Gonchar is the defenseman whisperer.
- Feds91Stammer

Then maybe he should speak a little louder if they’re not hearing him.

Then maybe he should speak a little louder if they’re not hearing him.
- Rinosaur

Then maybe he should speak a little louder if they’re not hearing him.
- Rinosaur

So what trade can we make to send you guys Mike Green?

So what trade can we make to send you guys Mike Green?
- Feds91Stammer

Well, I guess the better question is what do you NOT want from us?

I may be spouting a completely incorrect, unsubstantiated opinion, but hasn't JJ generally looked better (including having better possession numbers) when he's been paired with Gudbranson?
- mdub71

Yes, I agree JJ's been better with Gudbranson than Marino and the numbers back that up.

Gudbranson is probably better right now, at least at defending, but neither he nor JJ offers much upside in the other end.

Marino has the promise of that and possibly a complete player, but right now he should either be getting shelter minutes and you live with the mistakes hoping he improves or he should be playing heavy minutes in the AHL. He shouldn't be playing with the guys you need to carry the team right now.

For about a second I thought RW was going to just compliment JJ. I must have had way too long day.

Well, I guess the better question is what do you NOT want from us?
- Rinosaur

Well I will simply take Schultz and a 3rd.

Well I will simply take Schultz and a 3rd.
- Feds91Stammer

I’d rather keep Schultz lol

I’d rather keep Schultz lol
- Barnaby36

Why?

I think one issue with defensemen is that it takes them longer to acclimate to a new team/system. I remember Gonchar being pretty bad the first entire season he played for the Pens but then much better after that.

Maybe JJ will have a rebound season, relatively speaking? This is not to say that he is good - he is not. His contract is horrendous and the long-term impacts of it will hurt the team even more than it already has. However, perhaps this season and next season at least he will do better (again, relatively speaking - I don't actually expect him to be "good") and will be pretty reliable in the third pairing.

I have a feeling that the 2021-22 year of his contract will be brutal, though. At least after that a buyout becomes more feasible.

I think one issue with defensemen is that it takes them longer to acclimate to a new team/system. I remember Gonchar being pretty bad the first entire season he played for the Pens but then much better after that.

Maybe JJ will have a rebound season, relatively speaking? This is not to say that he is good - he is not. His contract is horrendous and the long-term impacts of it will hurt the team even more than it already has. However, perhaps this season and next season at least he will do better (again, relatively speaking - I don't actually expect him to be "good") and will be pretty reliable in the third pairing.

I have a feeling that the 2021-22 year of his contract will be brutal, though. At least after that a buyout becomes more feasible.
- PghPens668771

If it takes you more than 2 weeks to acclimate to a new system you suck at hockey.

Well I will simply take Schultz and a 3rd.
- Feds91Stammer

Here’s my issue with moving Schultz. While yes, he may be overrated and will likely get too much money next year, replacing him won’t be easy and I’m sure Green is almost done.

Here’s my issue with moving Schultz. While yes, he may be overrated and will likely get too much money next year, replacing him won’t be easy and I’m sure Green is almost done.
- Rinosaur

Is Schultz even a net positive in terms of on ice impact?

I’m sure Green is almost done.
- Rinosaur

Indeed looks like that.

Is Schultz even a net positive in terms of on ice impact?
- Feds91Stammer

I honestly haven’t dug deep into his stats thus far, but from the little I looked he’s been trending up after a rough start.

I think one issue with defensemen is that it takes them longer to acclimate to a new team/system. I remember Gonchar being pretty bad the first entire season he played for the Pens but then much better after that.

Maybe JJ will have a rebound season, relatively speaking? This is not to say that he is good - he is not. His contract is horrendous and the long-term impacts of it will hurt the team even more than it already has. However, perhaps this season and next season at least he will do better (again, relatively speaking - I don't actually expect him to be "good") and will be pretty reliable in the third pairing.

I have a feeling that the 2021-22 year of his contract will be brutal, though. At least after that a buyout becomes more feasible.
- PghPens668771

Gonchar was the second leading scorer with 58 points on the Penguins his first year. He was not bad. The Penguins were bad.

Is Schultz even a net positive in terms of on ice impact?
- Feds91Stammer

It's a contract year, so maybe. Ask again after we get a 2nd line for him to get the puck to.

Indeed looks like that.
- VeryModernMan

Green has a rel xGF% of 12.2 and Schultz is at 1.52 so it looks like Schultz is done.

It's a contract year, so maybe. Ask again after we get a 2nd line for him to get the puck to.
- Tojo.

You guys are suckers for this contract year bullpoop.

Green has a rel xGF% of 12.2 and Schultz is at 1.52 so it looks like Schultz is done.
- Feds91Stammer

So why do you want Schultz? Wouldn’t you just take the third? The Pens can probably move Schultz in a secondary deal for other assets.

So why do you want Schultz? Wouldn’t you just take the third? The Pens can probably move Schultz in a secondary deal for other assets.
- Rinosaur

I take Schultz to flip for assets.

I take Schultz to flip for assets.
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah, I’m good.

You guys are suckers for this contract year bullpoop.
- Feds91Stammer

Look at Schultz's last contract year and the rest of his career.

Look at Schultz's last contract year and the rest of his career.
- Tojo.

4 of his past 6 seasons will have been contract years. Let that sink in for a second...

4 of his past 6 seasons will have been contract years. Let that sink in for a second...
- Feds91Stammer

And 5 of his 8 career seasons. But yeah contract year performance lol.