Or they could waive Hagg and solve 2 problems at once.
- Shrike

This seems like a horrible idea. Hagg would be claimed immediately. He has some trade value...not a ton, but some.

Also, while he's no Chris Pronger or even Kimmo Timonen, he hasn't been dragging the Flyers down this year. I feel for Morin, but Hagg hasn't shown any reason to be scratched.

Yes, I am sure the shot attempt differential charts are coming.

- Feanor

but I was going for this:

http://ringtones.convey2w.../index.asp?search=sal+pal

This seems like a horrible idea. Hagg would be claimed immediately. He has some trade value...not a ton, but some.

Also, while he's no Chris Pronger or even Kimmo Timonen, he hasn't been dragging the Flyers down this year. I feel for Morin, but Hagg hasn't shown any reason to be scratched.

Yes, I am sure the shot attempt differential charts are coming.
- jmatchett383

Didn't the Corsi numbers say we beat both Dallas and Edmonton.

This seems like a horrible idea. Hagg would be claimed immediately. He has some trade value...not a ton, but some.

Also, while he's no Chris Pronger or even Kimmo Timonen, he hasn't been dragging the Flyers down this year. I feel for Morin, but Hagg hasn't shown any reason to be scratched.

Yes, I am sure the shot attempt differential charts are coming.
- jmatchett383

Why would a team claim Hagg?

That's silly, but a Hagg trade that allowed Myers back on the roster could be a good move. There are eight dmen on NHL contracts on the Phantoms, and De Haas makes nine.

Myers is too good for the AHL and needs to play NHL games to keep developing.
- Feanor

I agree. I understand wanting to get Braun to help out on the PK (despite the cost), but I'd rather have Myers there.

Please point out to me which statistic in the 19/20 season puts him as one of the worst defenseman in the league?

Haag has played well to this point in the season. Maybe a visit to the eye doctor is in order.
- MJL

Hagg had his first weak game of the season against Vegas. Beyond that, he's been playing well defensively -- probably the team's steadiest. The others have all had shaky moments.

Why would a team claim Hagg?
- Shrike

Because he's a still young, low-cost defenseman with 150+ NHL games. That is the kind of player most teams would love to grab as a 7th defenseman.

If Jack Johnson can get the contract he did, I think the market to pick up Hagg for nothing but his cap hit would have a lot of interest.

Does anybody know what explanation was given for sending Carsen Twarynski down
to Phantoms .In what I have seen ( not much 2 games ) he played well
- goenzoy

Kid kinda lost his mojo after the first few games. With that said, he should still be in the lineup over Pitlick and Stewart. But waiver-exemption, I guess.

Kid kinda lost his mojo after the first few games. With that said, he should still be in the lineup over Pitlick and Stewart. But waiver-exemption, I guess.
- Tomahawk

I think Chris Stewart is pretty much waiver exempt, although not by definition.

I mean, you have to expose him to waivers, but that's just a formality.

Yes, I am sure the shot attempt differential charts are coming.
- jmatchett383

Hagg hasn't been on the ice for a single goal against.

Net positive in both raw possession, chances and expected goals.

People citing the stats from last year need to recognize that he's been a lot better lately. Will it hold, especially if he ends up split up from Ghost? Not sure. But they need to ride this good streak out.

Agreed, that should be the 4th line. In my view, I don't see either Pitlick or Stewart as a better player than Twarynski is. The only caveat is what is better for Twarynski? 4th line or a larger role in the AHL?
- MJL

It’s early. The coaches are still getting looks at options. In my mind, it’s sort of a test for Twarynski. Last season as the last cut in training camp, he went down to the Phantoms and didn’t look so good. This year after making the team and playing some NHL games, he gets send down. Let’s wait and see how he plays.

Why would a team claim Hagg?
- Shrike

Because he is a legitimate top 6 NHL defenseman?

Again, what stats from the 19/20 NHL season show that Haag is the worst statistical defenseman in the NHL?

I think Chris Stewart is pretty much waiver exempt, although not by definition.

I mean, you have to expose him to waivers, but that's just a formality.
- jmatchett383

That, and Fletch + Stewart = Together Forever

Hagg hasn't been on the ice for a single goal against.

Net positive in both raw possession, chances and expected goals.

People citing the stats from last year need to recognize that he's been a lot better lately. Will it hold, especially if he ends up split up from Ghost? Not sure. But they need to ride this good streak out.
- Tomahawk

Big part of it is that the team is better statistically in areas. They're team stats. Haag playing well is also a big part of it. Only thing I'll add is that he has been sheltered in a lot of ways. Hasn't had many D zone starts. Haag is not a problem on this team currently.

I agree. I understand wanting to get Braun to help out on the PK (despite the cost), but I'd rather have Myers there.
- jmatchett383

It would be a mistake to switch out Braun and Myers in the role that Braun is in for this team. They would have to configure usage and roles significantly to add Myers. Unless he replaces Haag.

It would be a mistake to switch out Braun and Myers in the role that Braun is in for this team. They would have to configure usage and roles significantly to add Myers. Unless he replaces Haag.
- MJL

I wasn't saying replace Myers in place of Braun, simply that given the choice of which to play, in a vacuum, I would prefer Myers. But I understand that if you did switch them out, you'd have to reconfigure the role and that the net gains may not outweigh the net positives.

Stewart is playing ahead of Pitlick so he's actually the 12th forward. And if Stewart wasn't on the roster, they could have kept Twarynski and had this 4th line:

Twarysnki-Vorobyev-Raffl

There are 31 teams in this league and only the Flyers were desperate enough to sign a guy who spent last season playing in England.
- Feanor

i don't see this as desperate, but addressing the need for a little more physicality with the departures of simmonds and gudas. And question, not that he would be scared of him, but did reaves do anything stupid besides cross checking ghost in the vegas game? everyone is so negative. when patty is back he will probably be the 13th forward again. But if he is playing he can bring the physical presence and assist with shootouts as it has been needed for years.

Konecny has been a good offensive player since he entered the league but to this point he seems to be in a breakout season to a higher level. He is the offensive catalyst for this team right now along with Couturier.
- MJL

yes...his two way game is much improved during the small sample this year.

yes...his two way game is much improved during the small sample this year.
- Peter Richards

I can't remember, but I think I saw TK out there on the PK last game. Could have been because the penalty was almost over and they wanted to get his shift going, but not sure.

My guess would be if Misha continues to play well. Someone will be dealt or waived and by someone I mean Pitlick or Stewart.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

yes, this will be unpopular, but part of the business. Farabee could be sent down as well, and not sure how many games (i think 10) his contract wouldn't start until next year. is this correct.

then the lines could be

23-14-11
21-13-19
25-28-93
12-24-18/44

yes, this will be unpopular, but part of the business. Farabee could be sent down as well, and not sure how many games (i think 10) his contract wouldn't start until next year. is this correct.

then the lines could be

23-14-11
21-13-19
25-28-93
12-24-18/44
- Peter Richards

Move Patrick to wing?

I can't remember, but I think I saw TK out there on the PK last game. Could have been because the penalty was almost over and they wanted to get his shift going, but not sure.
- jmatchett383

was that the 4 v 4 that went to a short PP, then lindblom hopped on.

Hagg hasn't been on the ice for a single goal against.

Net positive in both raw possession, chances and expected goals.

People citing the stats from last year need to recognize that he's been a lot better lately. Will it hold, especially if he ends up split up from Ghost? Not sure. But they need to ride this good streak out.
- Tomahawk

Agreed. He is playing better than last year's debacle. He doesnt seem to be panicking with the puck as much. The eye tests suggests his advanced stats are improving. Perhaps he is in the process of growing into a legit 3rd pair dman. I am willing to continue to see if if it delays the recall of Myers who is more skilled. A period of solid play by Hagg will make him much more valuable as a trade afterwards. Also when we suffer our first defender injury he helps provide depth. I have been hard on him for 2 years. But his play this year has tempered my criticism.

I'm a fan of Pitlick as the 12th forward, he's not slow and always seems to be in on the forecheck, plays a heavy game.

Well, for starters, the Flyers haven't been giving up a lot of scoring chances in most of the games so far. The 6-2 win on Monday may actually have been the team's poorest defensive performance of the season. Even in the Calgary game -- the only one where the puck possession edge truly went against them -- the Flyers defended well for the most part. It was with the puck where they struggled.
- bmeltzer

Any team looks good when you’re playing with the puck. The Flyers are out-chancing teams like Dallas and Calgary, as well as outshooting but no Execution. So the breakdowns happen within those small windows when they don’t have the puck and carrying play.

Edit, pre Claudefather

I meant Edmonton not Calgary.