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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
I’m sorry, but I don’t understand what the hell you mean by saying there is “risk” in “losing” Marancin.

Like, is there risk in me getting a beej tonight from Mrs. Wedgie?

- Atomic Wedgie



Losing Marincin is addition by subtraction..

Maybe the risk is that someone else gets more playing time and becomes a better player for it, and we are forced to give him $11M a year just to stay here.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:44 PM ET
Not an excuse but just a fact ....that matters.

With JT and Spezza out of the lineup the Leaf fwd average age was about 23.5. Experience does matter. Especially against an opponent like the Bruins.

- The Law


unfortunately the Door is closed as of game 82 of 2020
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
Basically since last jan, theyve been a .500 team.
- Fakepartofme



right and the team has 8 or 10 different players. lets see things play out a bit more this season
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Oct 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
i'd only be down with this if the kings were willing to add carter and brown to the deal.
- Tumbleweed



only in a cap free world.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
it was nice knowing you Nicholas Petan, Kevin Gravel and Nicholas Shore.

marincin to is best position as 7th dman in the press box.

- Tumbleweed

TSN had a really good piece on Petan before last night’s game. He lost his father last year to suicide.

Tough to watch, but well done.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
Losing Marincin is addition by subtraction..

Maybe the risk is that someone else gets more playing time and becomes a better player for it, and we are forced to give him $11M a year just to stay here.

- PatC80

which teams 8th D man is actually good?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
which teams 8th D man is actually good?
- drexel



Ours? Rasmus Sandin..
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:53 PM ET
Losing Marincin is addition by subtraction..

Maybe the risk is that someone else gets more playing time and becomes a better player for it, and we are forced to give him $11M a year just to stay here.

- PatC80


The risk is injuries and the Leafs cap. She's tight - like Wedgie when it's time to pick up the bill.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
The risk is injuries and the Leafs cap. She's tight - like Wedgie when it's time to pick up the bill.
- The Law


To me the question is where does Marincin fit after Holl . . . I think it's probably:

Marincin
Schmaltz
Kivihalme
Gravel
Harpur

Prefer to protect or limit usage so that first year of ELC is protected:
Sandin
Liljegren

Which means we have to ask - would he be claimed? And if so, by whom? And when do we get to play them?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
To me the question is where does Marincin fit after Holl . . . I think it's probably:

Marincin
Schmaltz
Kivihalme
Gravel
Harpur

Prefer to protect or limit usage so that first year of ELC is protected:
Sandin
Liljegren

Which means we have to ask - would he be claimed? And if so, by whom? And when do we get to play them?

- Monkeypunk





If only we could play KHL teams...
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
To me the question is where does Marincin fit after Holl . . . I think it's probably:

Marincin
Schmaltz
Kivihalme
Gravel
Harpur

Prefer to protect or limit usage so that first year of ELC is protected:
Sandin
Liljegren

Which means we have to ask - would he be claimed? And if so, by whom? And when do we get to play them?

- Monkeypunk


Ya, that's why I think Timashov and Spezza stay as 12/13 and they ride out with 6 D'men.

If they get an injury on the blue line I think the rule allows them (b/c they are cap strapped) to call up anyone making 800k or less. So all those guys on the D depth list can come up or down on an emergency basis if somebody gets a short term injury or a flu bug or whatever.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
Off topic, any news on Rantanen yet?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
Off topic, any news on Rantanen yet?
- PatC80

wassup with him? drunk driving?
mpr29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Cheering for the Leafs is like going to church when you know there is no God”
Joined: 10.26.2009

Oct 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Where did you get that? That would have saved me some time!

I took the schedule, added a formula to count the days between team games, and then a second formula to count the instances of b2b for and against. It does not discount games where a team is playing a team in a b2b where BOTH teams are not rested (For instance I noticed from the raw data that while Carolina plays teams 23 times that have only 1 day of rest, in a lot of those cases Carolina was also unrested).

- Monkeypunk


Just saved the jpg's from twitter a few months back, but googling "Tired/Rested games (raw) for 2019-2020" apparently it's from this McCurdy guy.

https://twitter.com/Ineff...tatus/1143589704522260482

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
wassup with him? drunk driving?
- 21peter



week to week...
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:39 PM ET
I have 2 thoughts:

1. The Bruins stars played smarter than ours. Matthews and Marner made some real bad decisions with the puck, they will need to be more consistent before they can be considered top players in the league. But I'm not concerned, Bergeron and Marchand were not really elite players until their mid twenties.
2. Our goalies should stop handling the puck. Seriously, just...don't

- BestRapperAlive

Matthews and Marner need to be way better...Kappy and Kerfoot can't be leading the team offensively and creating chances
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 23 @ 2:39 PM ET
10.9 mitch needs to play better for 10.9

Adam Jaz
@LedgerSko

Here are Mitch Marner's ranks in some key score adjusted 5v5 numbers (among all players with 40+ mins 5v5) 585 eligible players

CF/60 109th
CF% 138th
xGF/60 322nd
xGF% 375th


And William Nylander

CF/60 19th
CF% 46th
xGF/60 187th
xGF% 126th
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Oct 23 @ 2:39 PM ET
I don't think it would.. A lot of goalies say that they need to keep their routine to stay consistent.. Having a guy start a game and then potentially be in the press box in a suit and tie would throw off that balance
- PatC80


My suggestion was merely based around the fact that if you want to rest a goalie - better to not dress him. I would assume that being backup still brings a bit of 'game stress' (can be good, but can cause goalie not to rest either + potential minutes when starter gets pulled).
I thought it would be an interesting idea to always have a rested starting goalie and a rested backup goalie. Who knows - should ask nhl starters what they think of the whole thing.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Oct 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
10.9 mitch needs to play better for 10.9
- senstroll

Now do points totals.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 23 @ 2:44 PM ET
Now do points totals.
- MaximusAurelius


I know he can score on the PP, but the leafs need a 10.9 mil player to be much much better at 5v5, the good players earn their money when the teams are even
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
My suggestion was merely based around the fact that if you want to rest a goalie - better to not dress him. I would assume that being backup still brings a bit of 'game stress' (can be good, but can cause goalie not to rest either + potential minutes when starter gets pulled).
I thought it would be an interesting idea to always have a rested starting goalie and a rested backup goalie. Who knows - should ask nhl starters what they think of the whole thing.

- MaximusAurelius


It's an interesting idea. I'll give you that, but even when the starter is on the bench, they still go through the same routines as they would if they were starting.

Think about it, has Babs ever pulled the goalie out in the 2nd game of a back to back?

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Oct 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
I know he can score on the PP, but the leafs need a 10.9 mil player to be much much better at 5v5, the good players earn their money when the teams are even
- senstroll

Marner has been much better than Nylander 5v5 - no stat you come up with can contradict that.

Marner this year vs Marner last year - that should be the discussion.
But not Marner vs Nylander - since Marner is still playing much better than Nylander.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
Now do points totals.
- MaximusAurelius

There is a reason you don't judge players off 10 games of point totals.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Oct 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
It's an interesting idea. I'll give you that, but even when the starter is on the bench, they still go through the same routines as they would if they were starting.

Think about it, has Babs ever pulled the goalie out in the 2nd game of a back to back?

- PatC80


That is exactly my point - not having him do that would potentially rest him 'better'?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Marner has been much better than Nylander 5v5 - no stat you come up with can contradict that.

Marner this year vs Marner last year - that should be the discussion.
But not Marner vs Nylander - since Marner is still playing much better than Nylander.

- MaximusAurelius


You like to use stats when they support your argument but then say stats are bs when they don't support you.
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