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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 23 @ 11:06 AM ET
There was an interesting article a few years ago - I think maybe it was BIron?

Anyhoo, he said that he preference would be to play the back2back games, and then sit for the next one.

His reasoning was that there was a lot of mental fatigue that goes with being a goalie, and you need the mental break. So he would prefer to be "in the zone" for two days in a row, and then be off for a longer period of time.

- Atomic Wedgie

Sounds legit!
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
Dammit, are we really going to let Buffalo win the OctoCup?
- Symba007


Ya. Usually the Habs are all over the October-Cup. What is Buffalo thinking!!!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
There was an interesting article a few years ago - I think maybe it was BIron?

Anyhoo, he said that he preference would be to play the back2back games, and then sit for the next one.

His reasoning was that there was a lot of mental fatigue that goes with being a goalie, and you need the mental break. So he would prefer to be "in the zone" for two days in a row, and then be off for a longer period of time.

- Atomic Wedgie

Yes i heard him say that also on tsn.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
offered without comment






- mpr29


Where did you get that? That would have saved me some time!

I took the schedule, added a formula to count the days between team games, and then a second formula to count the instances of b2b for and against. It does not discount games where a team is playing a team in a b2b where BOTH teams are not rested (For instance I noticed from the raw data that while Carolina plays teams 23 times that have only 1 day of rest, in a lot of those cases Carolina was also unrested).
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
Don't want fighting at all and I never personally was a fighter, but true winsix story, I used to get bullied at school. My dad paid for some self defence instructions and I got up the the brown belt level in Grade 10. I never attacked anyone, but the bullying stopped at some point - not sure why. My marks also improved dramatically.
- winsix

Winsix for the win!
Was it ju jitsu?
Loved that, wanna get my kids into it.
CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.22.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
[quote=Fakepartofme]

exactly my point , andersen can play 2 nights in a row no problem, they could
have won last night with him in net, save hutchinson for the SJ game and then
put Andersen back in against habs with 4 days rest ...

babcock is an idiot , enuf said.... team is not playing for him and his goalie rotation is stupid...

the sooner he is gone the better....
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
[quote=CarlitoBrigante]
Hutch played well, it was sloppy play by the team that cost them i feel.
Not a fan of babs style.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Ya. Usually the Habs are all over the October-Cup. What is Buffalo thinking!!!
- hawk35


Our octocup dynasty ended last season unfortunately.
CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.22.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
[quote=Fakepartofme]

i agree , no doubt the team is not helping hutch with their bonehead and lazy plays....

hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
Our octocup dynasty ended last season unfortunately.
- Scabeh


All good things come to an end Scabeh...heck, I remember when my Hawks use to make the playoffs...and a few times the actual CUP!!!....now, alas....not even in the October-Cup convo, just the lottery race...
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
Winsix for the win!
Was it ju jitsu?
Loved that, wanna get my kids into it.

- Fakepartofme


Karate, you won't regret it. My 15 year old has been taking lessons for about 3 years, never gets bullied, doesn't get in fights, but can go about his business in peace and act with confidence. I think it would be a more productive and positive experience for guys like Marner, Matthews and Nylander than playing Fortnite in the hotel room.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:22 AM ET
There was an interesting article a few years ago - I think maybe it was BIron?

Anyhoo, he said that he preference would be to play the back2back games, and then sit for the next one.

His reasoning was that there was a lot of mental fatigue that goes with being a goalie, and you need the mental break. So he would prefer to be "in the zone" for two days in a row, and then be off for a longer period of time.

- Atomic Wedgie


It won't be long before teams start using my 3goalie proposed solution:

goalie A: starting goalie for 55 or so games
goalie B: starting goalie for remaining (27 or so) games
goalie C: professional backup - the guy that always is the backup for A & B. Will probably only play 5-9 'half' games - when the starter is pulled.

In this way, when a goalie is not starting, he is truly resting (not even the stress of potentially having to fill in if the starter gets pulled)
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
All good things come to an end Scabeh...heck, I remember when my Hawks use to make the playoffs...and a few times the actual CUP!!!....now, alas....not even in the October-Cup convo, just the lottery race...
- hawk35


Hey, if you would have told me when I was 7 years old that it would take over 25 years for me to see another cup parade, I would have called you crazy.

Or you know.... hide behind my dad since I was not allowed to talk to strangers.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
[quote=CarlitoBrigante]


I don't think Babs is an idiot, he's a good coach.. I don't agree with his decisions, but he knows what he's doing.. I would have liked to see Andersen last night and Hutch against CBJ.
It does seem like the team is starting to tune him out though, and if that is the case then he might need to be let go sooner rather than later.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 23 @ 11:35 AM ET
It won't be long before teams start using my 3goalie proposed solution:

goalie A: starting goalie for 55 or so games
goalie B: starting goalie for remaining (27 or so) games
goalie C: professional backup - the guy that always is the backup for A & B. Will probably only play 5-9 'half' games - when the starter is pulled.

In this way, when a goalie is not starting, he is truly resting (not even the stress of potentially having to fill in if the starter gets pulled
)

- MaximusAurelius

Would mean a lot mentally!
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Hey, if you would have told me when I was 7 years old that it would take over 25 years for me to see another cup parade, I would have called you crazy.

Or you know.... hide behind my dad since I was not allowed to talk to strangers.

- Scabeh


Here's a toast to the next 25 years the Habs don't win a cup
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
Would mean a lot mentally!
- 21peter


Yes, I also think this idea is completely mental.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
Here's a toast to the next 25 years the Habs don't win a cup

- winsix


Well if the Leafs have taught me anything, it's that it's possible!
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 23 @ 11:38 AM ET
Yes, I also think this ides is completely metal.
- Scabeh

winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
Well if the Leafs have taught me anything, it's that it's possible!
- Scabeh



Luckily for the Habs organization they did not have an owner like Ballard. Bad ownership is a death sentence to sport franchises. Raptors won a pretty big championship for the current owners of the Leafs - ownership no longer an issue, hard cap is though
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Oct 23 @ 11:46 AM ET
It won't be long before teams start using my 3goalie proposed solution:

goalie A: starting goalie for 55 or so games
goalie B: starting goalie for remaining (27 or so) games
goalie C: professional backup - the guy that always is the backup for A & B. Will probably only play 5-9 'half' games - when the starter is pulled.

In this way, when a goalie is not starting, he is truly resting (not even the stress of potentially having to fill in if the starter gets pulled)

- MaximusAurelius


A very nice system...in theory. But, with the CAP crunch of so many teams. It becomes a luxery to even have a decent backup at 2-3 million. Can't see too many teams being willing to pay for THREE starting goalies. A few teams might, but most probably couldn't even entertain such an idea.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:49 AM ET
Luckily for the Habs organization they did not have an owner like Ballard. Bad ownership is a death sentence to sport franchises. Raptors won a pretty big championship for the current owners of the Leafs - ownership no longer an issue, hard cap is though
- winsix


We've never had an owner problem but god knows we've had management problems over the years.

Réjean Houle? Pierre Gauthier?

Marc Bergevin looks like a genius next to those guys. And god knows he's made some mistakes.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
A very nice system...in theory. But, with the CAP crunch of so many teams. It becomes a luxery to even have a decent backup at 2-3 million. Can't see too many teams being willing to pay for THREE starting goalies. A few teams might, but most probably couldn't even entertain such an idea.
- hawk35



Says the fan of the team with two #1 goalies
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:52 AM ET
A very nice system...in theory. But, with the CAP crunch of so many teams. It becomes a luxery to even have a decent backup at 2-3 million. Can't see too many teams being willing to pay for THREE starting goalies. A few teams might, but most probably couldn't even entertain such an idea.
- hawk35


So you pay a minimum of $700k or more considering that the league minimum is going to go up - for a guy who's sole purpose is to backup the backup and fill in when the backup plays poorly and is pulled?

That's a lot of money to pay for a guy who maybe gets in net 3 times / year.

You never know. I don't like the idea of the "opener" in baseball, but it's a thing. I don't much like the idea of the backup's backup either.

I mean it feels sort of like . . I'm busy, so I hire an assistant, and my assistant is occasionally busy, so I hire them an assistant who is never busy. What am I paying for?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
So you pay a minimum of $700k or more considering that the league minimum is going to go up - for a guy who's sole purpose is to backup the backup and fill in when the backup plays poorly and is pulled?

That's a lot of money to pay for a guy who maybe gets in net 3 times / year.

You never know. I don't like the idea of the "opener" in baseball, but it's a thing. I don't much like the idea of the backup's backup either.

I mean it feels sort of like . . I'm busy, so I hire an assistant, and my assistant is occasionally busy, so I hire them an assistant who is never busy. What am I paying for?

- Monkeypunk



Also, we're rather limited in roster spots right now.. I think we are only carrying 21 players in total
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