true dat
- 21peter

The Sedins would add grit to this roster.

Yup, he played like a pretty average backup.
- gravyface

He made a lot of really good saves. His positioning is pretty good. But holy (frank) he should have a shock collar on if he ever leaves the crease.

And his rebound control is Reimer-esque.

The Sedins would add grit to this roster.
- DrunkenCanuck

ouch

He wasn't magnificent but if the logic at play is that he cost us the game, that's a stretch at best.
- joel878

I didn’t say he cost the game, but he wasn’t good when he needed to be. Bergeron line just own the Leafs, but people saying Hutch played good need to recheck their braille.

He made a lot of really good saves. His positioning is pretty good. But holy (frank) he should have a shock collar on if he ever leaves the crease.

And his rebound control is Reimer-esque.
- UsernameUnknown

Yup and why he's a completely average backup, despite what Uggle the Muggle wants to fit his 20/20 narrative.

That for sure was a big part but Hutch was absolutely useless.
- GreatGigInTheSky

In general he's a pretty useless goalie yes lol. Below average backup imo

hutch wasn't good but for sure he didn't lose them the game. their star players completely disappearing was the main issue. bergeron etc yeah yeah. still true though.
- daeth

I will defend that top line a bit by understanding the Bergeron line is the best in hockey, and would still be okay if they didn't get any points, but absolutely no possession or dangerous chances was pretty disheartening. Like they could have at least had a couple good shifts, maybe a post? But it really wasn't good.
They did okay limiting them to only 1 goal though. Not many lines can even do that much.

So I had to watch the Boston feed for the last period. Edwards actually said something that made sense. He said Toronto has to much talent and that's what's hurting them and they are way to easy to play against from the hash marks to behind there own net and teams are figuring this out and focusing in on it. Hem them in there own end for stretches and it doesn't matter how much talent ya have. Ya can't score from there.

He made a lot of really good saves. His positioning is pretty good. But holy (frank) he should have a shock collar on if he ever leaves the crease.

And his rebound control is Reimer-esque.
- UsernameUnknown

You're not wrong by any accounts, but hanging a loss on the backup goalie is such an easy out. If the teams top players did their job, if the coach did his job... The backup goalie isn't a part of the story. His job is to give them a chance, and it's tough to argue he didn't.

Matthews, Marner, rielly being relative no shows, making costly blunders when opportunities were presented is the story. Babcock being his stubborn ass self and refusing to split Matthews and Marner when it was clear they weren't doing squat after the 1st is the story. I swear I watch Toronto Boston games just to see Cassidy put a coaching clinic on Babs every time.

Backup schmackup

Would it be that much of a stretch for me to say Ceci has been more serviceable than Barrie to date?
- joel878

Barrie hasn't been all that impressive. Better than Z was the past few years, though.

Yes guy, lets get that high draft pick.
- Fakepartofme

To give to carolina? Nah let’s try and make playoffs.

I will defend that top line a bit by understanding the Bergeron line is the best in hockey, and would still be okay if they didn't get any points, but absolutely no possession or dangerous chances was pretty disheartening. Like they could have at least had a couple good shifts, maybe a post? But it really wasn't good.
They did okay limiting them to only 1 goal though. Not many lines can even do that much.
- UsernameUnknown

Johnsson hit a post after he spent a month in the sin bin.

So I had to watch the Boston feed for the last period. Edwards actually said something that made sense. He said Toronto has to much talent and that's what's hurting them and they are way to easy to play against from the hash marks to behind there own net and teams are figuring this out and focusing in on it. Hem them in there own end for stretches and it doesn't matter how much talent ya have. Ya can't score from there.
- Buck Norris

I watched Matthews and Marner take offensive zone faceoffs and end up hemmed in their own zone within 10 seconds a minimum of 5 times tonight.

But the coach refuses to adapt. He's still playing his run the same poop to death plan like its 2007 and it will eventually work.

You're not wrong by any accounts, but hanging a loss on the backup goalie is such an easy out. If the teams top players did their job, if the coach did his job... The backup goalie isn't a part of the story. His job is to give them a chance, and it's tough to argue he didn't.

Matthews, Marner, rielly being relative no shows, making costly blunders when opportunities were presented is the story. Babcock being his stubborn ass self and refusing to split Matthews and Marner when it was clear they weren't doing squat after the 1st is the story. I swear I watch Toronto Boston games just to see Cassidy put a coaching clinic on Babs every time.

Backup schmackup
- joel878

Babs needed to break up Marner Matthews.

I see nobody saying much about Nylander who wasn't much better than the others with much easier competition.

So I had to watch the Boston feed for the last period. Edwards actually said something that made sense. He said Toronto has to much talent and that's what's hurting them and they are way to easy to play against from the hash marks to behind there own net and teams are figuring this out and focusing in on it. Hem them in there own end for stretches and it doesn't matter how much talent ya have. Ya can't score from there.
- Buck Norris

Hyman and JT would help things immensely. Also, Rielly and Marner have been sub-par to start the season; you then factor in our depth, and it's a different game.

If Bergeron or Pasta was hurt, would Jack be saying the same thing about the Bruins?

Matthews
Tavares
Kerfoot
Gauthier
Johnsson
Hyman
Kapanen
Moore
Mikheyev

Rielly
Muzzin
Dermott
Holl

Andersen


Everyone else can go.

You're not wrong by any accounts, but hanging a loss on the backup goalie is such an easy out. If the teams top players did their job, if the coach did his job... The backup goalie isn't a part of the story. His job is to give them a chance, and it's tough to argue he didn't.

Matthews, Marner, rielly being relative no shows, making costly blunders when opportunities were presented is the story. Babcock being his stubborn ass self and refusing to split Matthews and Marner when it was clear they weren't doing squat after the 1st is the story. I swear I watch Toronto Boston games just to see Cassidy put a coaching clinic on Babs every time.

Backup schmackup
- joel878

We were in the game right up to the end, so youre right there...just the goals and the stick handling, pretty sure my wife who’s never wore hockey gear could goalie stick handle better then he did tonight

Johnsson hit a post after he spent a month in the sin bin.
- Garnie

I liked Johnsson's game. Always have. That 2nd penalty was a joke. He had a strong game, IMO.

Matthews
Tavares
Kerfoot
Gauthier
Johnsson
Hyman
Kapanen
Moore
Mikheyev

Rielly
Muzzin
Dermott
Holl

Andersen


Everyone else can go.
- Steven_Seagull

Translation:

MARNER SUCKS.

Babs needed to break up Marner Matthews.

I see nobody saying much about Nylander who wasn't much better than the others with much easier competition.
- UsernameUnknown

I actually thought Willie was way better than either tonight. Which is part of why I was screaming for him to give up on Matthews Marner. Willie generated numerous chances.

I actually thought Willie was way better than either tonight. Which is part of why I was screaming for him to give up on Matthews Marner. Willie generated numerous chances.
- joel878

Maybe I missed him. He looked okay, but not nearly dangerous enough, to me.

I actually thought Willie was way better than either tonight. Which is part of why I was screaming for him to give up on Matthews Marner. Willie generated numerous chances.
- joel878

Maybe I missed him. He looked okay, but not nearly dangerous enough, to me.

That wasn’t on Hutch.


Play him against Boston, who you haven’t been able to beat with Freddie...


Good one Babcock, Good One.

We were in the game right up to the end, so youre right there...just the goals and the stick handling, pretty sure my wife who’s never wore hockey gear could goalie stick handle better then he did tonight
- Garnie

Yes, I'm with you. It was atrocious. He did bail himself out a few times, but if he played the puck right he wouldn't have to. I just don't think it should be the story at the end of the day... Because it takes the guys who should be accountable off the hook.

Matthews
Tavares
Kerfoot
Gauthier
Johnsson
Hyman
Kapanen
Moore
Mikheyev

Rielly
Muzzin
Dermott
Holl

Andersen


Everyone else can go.
- Steven_Seagull

Lol..

Remember when you used to always mock me for saying Nylander doesn’t try hard enough?

You guys ALWAYS come around, always..

Squawk!