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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
I thought that as well but early indications certainly aren't there.

But give it a bit of time maybe. I don't think Green has the patience to say 'hey Jake, you have all season to play with Bo to get your shat together' lol

- LordHumungous



Green said he liked him on Bo's line last game. JV just has to keep improving to earn the top 6 role. its funny how the trade JV rants run after he's had some good games.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 5:50 PM ET
Remember when everyone here was on markstroms case and I said let him develop hes got the right ingredients? Now he's one of the top in the league and a key part of a good canuck groùp.
Now they're doing it again with Jake. Yet he improves every year.
HB doesn't ever seem to learn, same nonsense over and over

- SMBDragon


I was one of those people wondering about Marky as a legit #1 goalie but I’m happy that he’s proven me wrong. I do feel like his upside was a bit more predictable though since he used to have a lot of strong games outside of allowing one early weak goal seemingly every game or 2.

Those are happening far less now.


I still think Jake can be a solid bottom 6 winger, that means I wouldn’t hesitate to package him for something better but it also means that I think it’s be a mistake to just trade him for the sake of it. He just doesn’t have the puck skills or offensive mind to be a legit top 6 player.

Reminds me of Kassian, he always leaves you wanting more so it can be frustrating but he’s still a decent bottom 6 player. That frustration can cloud people’s view, especially during cold streaks. If Josh Leivo has a cold streak, it won’t be nearly as magnified.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 21 @ 5:59 PM ET
Has he though? To me it’s his lack of instincts of any kind that I find most noticeable about his game. He can skate, but for some reason stops the instant he crosses the blue line. He can hit but is rarely in position to do so. He has a big body, but I can’t ever recall him using it to block a shot or stand a guy up.
- CubanBuffet


*silence*
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Oct 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
Can you make one post without talking about this?
It kind of makes you look like, well you know, a ....

- Marwood

WhiteLie
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Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
His numbers were trending up the last few seasons but that was with higher TOI as well.

Now competition is even higher for playing minutes he certainly isn't on pace to best last years numbers that's for sure.

- LordHumungous


I agree this is part of the problem, he missed an opportunity when the stakes and competition were much lower. If he keeps progressing at a glacier's pace, some other young kid(s) will surpass him in no time
WhiteLie
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Oct 21 @ 6:25 PM ET
Remember when everyone here was on markstroms case and I said let him develop hes got the right ingredients? Now he's one of the top in the league and a key part of a good canuck groùp.
Now they're doing it again with Jake. Yet he improves every year.
HB doesn't ever seem to learn, same nonsense over and over

- SMBDragon


Its a little different to compare goalies with players. Having a world-class goalie coach work with you on a daily basis one-on-one will do wonders. Not to mention Markstrom's work ethic and passion for improving was always visible. He was clearly frustrated when he wasn't playing well, whereas Jake seems indifferent game in, game out
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:30 PM ET
Its a little different to compare goalies with players. Having a world-class goalie coach work with you on a daily basis one-on-one will do wonders. Not to mention Markstrom's work ethic and passion for improving was always visible. He was clearly frustrated when he wasn't playing well, whereas Jake seems indifferent game in, game out
- WhiteLie

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:32 PM ET
Its a little different to compare goalies with players. Having a world-class goalie coach work with you on a daily basis one-on-one will do wonders. Not to mention Markstrom's work ethic and passion for improving was always visible. He was clearly frustrated when he wasn't playing well, whereas Jake seems indifferent game in, game out
- WhiteLie

True
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:35 PM ET
Goldy player of the week in the AHL
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:38 PM ET
Goldy player of the week in the AHL
- VANTEL


EP today..

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:40 PM ET
EP today..


- Nucker101



Nah leave him and Sven down there. Their trade value will be a lot higher on the farm that it would be if they are playing in the NHL
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:42 PM ET
Nah leave him and Sven down there. Their trade value will be a lot higher on the farm that it would be if they are playing in the NHL
- VANTEL


I still want 3 offensive minded lines. Sutter to RW
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 21 @ 6:46 PM ET
Its a little different to compare goalies with players. Having a world-class goalie coach work with you on a daily basis one-on-one will do wonders. Not to mention Markstrom's work ethic and passion for improving was always visible. He was clearly frustrated when he wasn't playing well, whereas Jake seems indifferent game in, game out
- WhiteLie


True true. Jake is happy to just be on the team, don’t see him wanting much of anything else. Is LE his mentor....?!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:49 PM ET
I still want 3 offensive minded lines. Sutter to RW
- Nucker101


They won't change things on the Canucks. We have seen a really big sample size of what they bring and as NHL players it is nothing to brag about.

It also benefits guys like Lind Rafferty Teves DiPietro Jasek and others playing in a skilled winning atmosphere.

Sven may get frustrated and ask to end his contract or get traded to a NHL team. It benefits them by having really good numbers.

I think 3 scoring lines is still 2 years away. We are still missing a top 6 forward and I don't think it will come from our current roster.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
They won't change things on the Canucks. We have seen a really big sample size of what they bring and as NHL players it is nothing to brag about.

It also benefits guys like Lind Rafferty Teves DiPietro Jasek and others playing in a skilled winning atmosphere.

Sven may get frustrated and ask to end his contract or get traded to a NHL team. It benefits them by having really good numbers.

I think 3 scoring lines is still 2 years away. We are still missing a top 6 forward and I don't think it will come from our current roster.

- VANTEL


SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:52 PM ET
I was one of those people wondering about Marky as a legit #1 goalie but I’m happy that he’s proven me wrong. I do feel like his upside was a bit more predictable though since he used to have a lot of strong games outside of allowing one early weak goal seemingly every game or 2.

Those are happening far less now.


I still think Jake can be a solid bottom 6 winger, that means I wouldn’t hesitate to package him for something better but it also means that I think it’s be a mistake to just trade him for the sake of it. He just doesn’t have the puck skills or offensive mind to be a legit top 6 player.

Reminds me of Kassian, he always leaves you wanting more so it can be frustrating but he’s still a decent bottom 6 player. That frustration can cloud people’s view, especially during cold streaks. If Josh Leivo has a cold streak, it won’t be nearly as magnified.

- Nucker101

Except Jake has that magnificent speed! That is quite an asset for us. It can have many uses against other teams. Would be a mistake to trade him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:56 PM ET

- Nucker101



I think it is good. The team looks better this year. It should be better even more so next year and the following year.

If Goldy and Sven put up good numbers maybe they can finally get us that unicorn third round pick we always wanted?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:56 PM ET
Except Jake has that magnificent speed! That is quite an asset for us. It can have many uses against other teams. Would be a mistake to trade him
- SMBDragon


And Kassian had better playmaking/vision that Jake does not possess but not the speed or shooting ability of Jake, both guys are missing key attributes.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 6:58 PM ET
I think it is good. The team looks better this year. It should be better even more so next year and the following year.

If Goldy and Sven put up good numbers maybe they can finally get us that unicorn third round pick we always wanted?

- VANTEL


I’m just bored with 2 checking lines
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 21 @ 7:01 PM ET
I’m just bored with 2 checking lines
- Nucker101



Roussel should have an impact and one day Ferland might find his game.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 21 @ 7:04 PM ET
And Kassian had better playmaking/vision that Jake does not possess but not the speed or shooting ability of Jake, both guys are missing key attributes.
- Nucker101

Yup, both are short of brains.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 7:07 PM ET
Roussel should have an impact and one day Ferland might find his game.
- VANTEL

They need someone to feed them the puck, a Sven or Gaudette in the bottom 6 can make some plays. Neither will light the world on fire, but I think it would help boost the offensive creativity in the bottom 6 right now. That whole group is relying on broken plays and individuality for most of their offense.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 21 @ 7:07 PM ET
Yup, both are short of brains.
- A_SteamingLombardi




you know it's bad when David Booth thinks you're stupid
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 21 @ 7:25 PM ET



you know it's bad when David Booth thinks you're stupid

- Nucker101


Bieksa is very entertaining. If they create an inside the Canucks player development segment with his humor it would add both color and brightness to the 50 year slogan
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 21 @ 7:28 PM ET



you know it's bad when David Booth thinks you're stupid

- Nucker101

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