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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:16 AM ET
I find it bizarre that they will happily scramble the forward lines every game, and swap guys in and out from the Phantoms, but Morin can't get a game no matter how little Hagg contributes from the back end.

And if Fletcher hadn't paid back Stewart for whatever favor he owed him with this totally undeserved contract, they could have called up Myers for tonight's game to play instead of Hagg.

- Feanor

Is the other team scoring when Hagg is on the ice? No need to take him out
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:19 AM ET
Is the other team scoring when Hagg is on the ice? No need to take him out
- KINGKENZO


Hagg's been steady, yeah.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:20 AM ET
Lines tn per Bill on twitter

JVR-Giroux-Voracek
Lindblom-Couts-TK
Laughton-Hayes-Farabee
Raffl-Vorobyev-Stewart
Pitlick

Elliott with the start tn

- FreshFlyer


There's a line that makes me want to throw up in my mouth. Flashbacks of last year when it was used and they spent the majority of the time in the defensive zone.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
Is the other team scoring when Hagg is on the ice? No need to take him out
- KINGKENZO


By that logic JVR should be a healthy scratch cause he hasn't scored yet.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
There's a line that makes me want to throw up in my mouth. Flashbacks of last year when it was used and they spent the majority of the time in the defensive zone.
- Glak18


They spent very little time together. Mostly at 6V5.

https://frozenpool.dobber...9&period=ALL&situation=EV
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
There's a line that makes me want to throw up in my mouth. Flashbacks of last year when it was used and they spent the majority of the time in the defensive zone.
- Glak18


It wasn't used much if at all last year. It was JVR-G-TK that had a long run together.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
JVR and Giroux have a lot of chemistry playing together and so do G and Voracek so on paper the line should be able to put some points up. Only thing I'm worried about is that they're putting to much on G's plate defensively but if they start them in the o zone in most scenarios I could see it working out.
- FreshFlyer


It’s good they are trying this out on a home game so that they can adjust matchups better. It’s worth trying. If it doesn’t work defensively and if Farabee settles into the game, they could switch them to give G some help.

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:26 AM ET
It wasn't used much if at all last year. It was JVR-G-TK that had a long run together.
- Feanor


That's right it was Konecny...

At least Voracek is better defensively. As long as Giroux and Voracek carry and do all the work maybe JvR will get a couple slam dunkers.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
They'd be better off playing 11F - 7D than dressing Stewart. Give Voracek, TK and Farabee extra shifts on the 4th line RW.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:29 AM ET
perfect opponent to cure the ills. Expansion team patsies.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Oct 21 @ 11:32 AM ET
Lines tn per Bill on twitter

JVR-Giroux-Voracek
Lindblom-Couts-TK
Laughton-Hayes-Farabee
Raffl-Vorobyev-Stewart
Pitlick

Elliott with the start tn

- FreshFlyer



again playing an aging veteran who can't push the pace of play, who can barely keep up with the pace of play, over a young prospect makes no sense.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
I just hope Patrick can come back in the next month, personally would love to see a forward lineup of:

Size, defensive responsibility and offensive punch down the middle. Skating down the right side and net presence (minus Giroux who is Giroux) down the left.

Giroux-Hayes-Farabee

I really don't think Joelbee deserves to be placed on the top line, but it would be nice to see what he can do with higher end talent.

Lindblom-Couturier-Konecny

I just love the makeup of this line. Personally I believe Couturier is the most important forward on this team, even more than Giroux. Konecny looks tremendous early so far, looking like a buzz saw always skating and never stopping.

JvR-Patrick-Voracek

The best part of this line...hopefully good matchups against other teams bottom six lines. If JvR can't score with those two then I don't think Gretzky could help him. Again it is all about matchups and the 3 perfect guys that could use it the most.

Raffl-Laughton-Pitlick

Hopefully a little bit of offensive punch now and again, but most importantly not getting scored against above all. Enough depth in top 9 to rotate other players like Voroybev, Rubtsov and NAK on the line throughout the season.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
again playing an aging veteran who can't push the pace of play, who can barely keep up with the pace of play, over a young prospect makes no sense.
- corduroy



The Flyers are playing two rookies tonight.
The Stewart blame-hate is as irrational to me as the Hagg blame-hate
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Lines tn per Bill on twitter

JVR-Giroux-Voracek
Lindblom-Couts-TK
Laughton-Hayes-Farabee
Raffl-Vorobyev-Stewart
Pitlick


Elliott with the start tn

- FreshFlyer



Interesting they are benching Pitlick

I guess they want that staged fight against Ryan Reaves at some point in the first 5 minutes.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
The Flyers are playing two rookies tonight.
The Stewart blame-hate is as irrational to me as the Hagg blame-hate

- opeth_pa


Wow, two rookies. They must be the only team in the league doing that!

No wait. They're actually just the only team in the league using a guy who was in the EIHL last year as a regular forward.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
The Flyers are playing two rookies tonight.
The Stewart blame-hate is as irrational to me as the Hagg blame-hate

- opeth_pa


Stewart wasn't in the NHL last year at 31 for a reason. And if Fletcher wasn't the GM he still wouldn't be.

Where are MacDonald and VandeVelde playing now?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
The Flyers are playing two rookies tonight.
The Stewart blame-hate is as irrational to me as the Hagg blame-hate

- opeth_pa


Once again, noone hates them or is blaming them for losses. We just think there is a better use of that roster spot. Why not dress the best possible roster?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Once again, noone hates them or is blaming them for losses. We just think there is a better use of that roster spot. Why not dress the best possible roster?
- bulet13


It's tough being so crazy that you think Phil Myers would make the Flyers a better team playing RHD on the 3rd pairing than Robert Hagg. Maybe we can get a group deal on a month at a mental institution.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Stewart wasn't in the NHL last year at 31 for a reason. And if Fletcher wasn't the GM he still wouldn't be.

Where are MacDonald and VandeVelde playing now?

- PLindbergh31


Their bathtub?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Interesting they are benching Pitlick

I guess they want that staged fight against Ryan Reaves at some point in the first 5 minutes.

- MBFlyerfan


Pitlick looks like he's still in preseason form.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 21 @ 11:53 AM ET
Their bathtub?
- Glak18


xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
Once again, noone hates them or is blaming them for losses. We just think there is a better use of that roster spot. Why not dress the best possible roster?
- bulet13


But why complain about something irrelevant as Pitlick or Stewart when the lack of scoring by our top 2 lines is way more urgent? Its like complaining about a scratch on your hardwood floor while your house is flooding. You should be focused on the flooding.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
Once again, noone hates them or is blaming them for losses. We just think there is a better use of that roster spot. Why not dress the best possible roster?
- bulet13


not really sure why that keeps being said. i haven't seen one person say stewart is to blame for any of the losses so far. they'd just rather have someone else in his spot.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
Pitlick looks like he's still in preseason form.
- Tomahawk


Once again showing how there's no such thing as a 13th forward who just sits in the stands. There will always guys in the top 12 who get hurt, or have slumps in form.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
Interesting they are benching Pitlick

I guess they want that staged fight against Ryan Reaves at some point in the first 5 minutes.

- MBFlyerfan



well, this is one of the games that they signed stewie for. even if he gets his face smashed, no one else will really have to worry about him, well as much anyway.
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