What!! Aaah...what are these jerseys?

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Daily reminder that former Flyers great Ron Hextall lead the team to 0 because he his plan of waiting for the two year window to open up was perpetually two years away

If Hexy was doing all the things so well why hasn't he landed another job?

I get it, totally easy to complain now but their is no business anywhere on the planet that would allow that business to keep not succeeding without changing. Yes Hexy was solid at drafting but that didn't translate to anything for him and so far some of those prospects are iffy.
- opeth_pa

So when Hextall was hired, the plan was to become a legit contender in two years?

Daily reminder that former Flyers great Ron Hextall lead the team to 0 because he his plan of waiting for the two year window to open up was perpetually two years away

If Hexy was doing all the things so well why hasn't he landed another job?

I get it, totally easy to complain now but their is no business anywhere on the planet that would allow that business to keep not succeeding without changing. Yes Hexy was solid at drafting but that didn't translate to anything for him and so far some of those prospects are iffy.
- opeth_pa

I’m no Hextall apologist, however, I’m confused as to your definition of him leading the team to “0”? By your definition 90% of the teams were lead to zero because they didn’t win a Stanley Cup?

He was strapped by a few barriers when he took over and he immediately set out with a long term plan, in my opinion. They made the playoffs two of his four years and had two solid 90+ point seasons 84-96-88-98.

His ufa signings were terrible and I still don’t understand the Schenn trade but you’re going to see the benefits of his long term vision very soon. Carter Hart, Sanheim, Lindblom, Konecny, Provorov, Twarynski, Patrick, Frost, Ratcliffe, Farabee & O’Brien are all a product of Hextall and his wheeling & dealing/drafting.

So when Hextall was hired, the plan was to become a legit contender in two years?
- StepfordSam

Yea, I heard 2-3 years for ages now.

Provorov is playing fine. Ghost is struggling. Sanheim has been inconsistent.

Dallas had a whopping 2 shots on net for 38+ minutes of the game. You can't do that to a team if you are playing lousy. The Flyers didn't do enough with the puck last night despite all the shots on goal -- not enough quality chances -- but they defended well after the first period.
- bmeltzer

Bill that first goal was entirely on provorov. He’s your horse and needs to start playing like it. 6.75 per for that? Top defensemen get beat from time to time but usually not looking like that

So when Hextall was hired, the plan was to become a legit contender in two years?
- StepfordSam

Whatever the plan was it surely wasn't kicking the can down the road and wasting prime years of the core's careers.

Quantifing luck tells me they have no clue what they're talking about.
- hereticpride

outcomes and probabilities, my friend

What!! Aaah...what are these jerseys?

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- NC Flyers Fan

You must be 8 years old

I’m no Hextall apologist, however, I’m confused as to your definition of him leading the team to “0”? By your definition 90% of the teams were lead to zero because they didn’t win a Stanley Cup?

He was strapped by a few barriers when he took over and he immediately set out with a long term plan, in my opinion. They made the playoffs two of his four years and had two solid 90+ point seasons 84-96-88-98.

His ufa signings were terrible and I still don’t understand the Schenn trade but you’re going to see the benefits of his long term vision very soon. Carter Hart, Sanheim, Lindblom, Konecny, Provorov, Twarynski, Patrick, Frost, Ratcliffe, Farabee & O’Brien are all a product of Hextall and his wheeling & dealing/drafting.
- Dave21Brown

I think it's pretty safe to say Hextall was a great long term planner, but had issues with the present execution - coaching decisions included.

I can forgive him for a lot of the team construction, but I can't forgive him for hiring hockey Chip Kelley.

So when Hextall was hired, the plan was to become a legit contender in two years?
- StepfordSam

When he took over we had some very good, but not elite, players. But, he was strapped with little cap space and a non existent prospect pool. He cleaned up the cap issues, cut the Holmgren dead weight and started a tremendous pool of kids.

The team is in a transition phase, Giroux is slow and getting older for a player, Voracek is nearly in the same boat, the defence is young and our all-star goaltender is in his first year, our #2 overall pick is always hurt and seemingly unable to take the next step, none of which is Ron Hextall’s fault.

The team isn’t very good but it’s hardly on Ron Hextall.

You must be 8 years old
- feelingkettle

No, but I’d rather be today.

I think it's pretty safe to say Hextall was a great long term planner, but had issues with the present execution - coaching decisions included.

I can forgive him for a lot of the team construction, but I can't forgive him for hiring hockey Chip Kelley.
- feelingkettle

Stubbornly sticking with Hakstol was clearly a mistake, he certainly had his warts but as I’ve previously stated, the present team being what they are is hardly on Hextall.

No, but I’d rather be today.
- NC Flyers Fan

They were the coyotes' jerseys when they first came into the league.

Bill that first goal was entirely on provorov. He’s your horse and needs to start playing like it. 6.75 per for that? Top defensemen get beat from time to time but usually not looking like that
- Just5

Remember when you told us the devils were a playoff team based on a period of hockey? Now you’re critiquing players? LOL.

Provorov is playing fine. Ghost is struggling. Sanheim has been inconsistent.

Dallas had a whopping 2 shots on net for 38+ minutes of the game. You can't do that to a team if you are playing lousy. The Flyers didn't do enough with the puck last night despite all the shots on goal -- not enough quality chances -- but they defended well after the first period.
- bmeltzer

They blamed the AV system on the flyer post show. Not enough traffic in front of the net, not creating enough high end scoring chances. If this is because of AV strict D minded philosophy he puts on every player? I am not sure.

Bill that first goal was entirely on provorov. He’s your horse and needs to start playing like it. 6.75 per for that? Top defensemen get beat from time to time but usually not looking like that
- Just5

1) Provorov was 1-on-2 in the corner with Benn and Perry. How was it "entirely on him"?

2) Niskanen, who also has mostly played well this season, was the one who got toasted by Hintz, as the play started to turn dangerous.

3) How many other shifts Provorov skate? 25. How many were solid ones? Most.

Posadelphia will tell you they out played Dallas yesterday.

Except they ignore the fact they were outplayed in scoring
- 2Real

If they were looking at shots they'd be wrong. Anyone can take a shot from the blue line on an unscreened 6'7" goalie and he'll make the stop 99 out of 100 times.

Flyers couldn't do jack in the 2nd and Dallas was playing not to lose in the 3rd which looked like they were "dominating ".

Whatever the plan was it surely wasn't kicking the can down the road and wasting prime years of the core's careers.
- hereticpride

I think you’re right about the core, but Hextall’s philosophy was sound. The timing turned out to be wrong. There isn’t going to be a synergy between the core and the upcoming youngsters.

If it were me, I would have sold off the core when Hextall was hired. But since this is the Flyers, they are never going to “tank”. They had to do it on the fly.

Ah....someone else who remembers when music had a tune
- DaveofYork

Great as Zimmermann as a songwriter. But without socialist and activist themes.

The blame lies with management handing out the contracts in the first place.
- StepfordSam

Totally agree. But we know that’s never changing so ....

People will defend five years if Hextall, I get it two of those years don't count because reasons.

Not even ten games into this season and Fletcher already sucks

I thought Hexy did a solid job drafting but couldn't seem to adapt that success to the actual team.

People will defend five years if Hextall, I get it two of those years don't count because reasons.

Not even ten games into this season and Fletcher already sucks

I thought Hexy did a solid job drafting but couldn't seem to adapt that success to the actual team.
- opeth_pa

He sucked last year as well

People will defend five years if Hextall, I get it two of those years don't count because reasons.

Not even ten games into this season and Fletcher already sucks

I thought Hexy did a solid job drafting but couldn't seem to adapt that success to the actual team.
- opeth_pa

I think most of the animosity right now is rightfully against the players.

Fletcher still gets the benefit of the doubt, despite his mandate from upper management. He should be ridiculed for the Stewart signing.

I think you’re right about the core, but Hextall’s philosophy was sound. The timing turned out to be wrong. There isn’t going to be a synergy between the core and the upcoming youngsters.

If it were me, I would have sold off the core when Hextall was hired. But since this is the Flyers, they are never going to “tank”. They had to do it on the fly.
- StepfordSam

100% agreed. The move then either should of been go all in on that core or tear it down to the studs and start fresh. The "soft" rebuild or rebuild on the flu or whatever people want to call it made no sense unless you were drafting difference-making players that could step right in and contribute which largely did not happen.