Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I don't see him as a need or a fit if I'm being honest. - burgh4life87
I see him as a great cap exchange though. Ritchie’s a pretty decent middle six guy who costs way less than Gudbranson going into this offseason. Could also make Hornqvist expendable. |
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Barnaby36
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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did you guys watch the first episode of In the Room? Looks like it was Sam the stats geek that was pushing hard for them to trade up and get Legare. Nice work, Sam. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Where do I find it? I’d like to watch it buddy |
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Barnaby36
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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I see him as a great cap exchange though. Ritchie’s a pretty decent middle six guy who costs way less than Gudbranson going into this offseason. Could also make Hornqvist expendable. - Victoro311
Is Ritchie better than Kassian? |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Is Ritchie better than Kassian? - Barnaby36
Yes. |
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pens_4ever
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Location: Pontiac, MI Joined: 07.18.2018
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1. If youre looking at 5v5 CF%, you don't know how to round...
2. you're inaccurately comparing CF% of teams that played different amounts of games and rounds. if you compared round by round, over the last 4 playoffs,id bet the your shot attempt % theory is also incorrect.
3. Nobody said its the end all be all or holy grail? But it is undoubtedly the best measure of possession. if you cannot concede that in hockey, if you have possession then the other team doesn't have possession and therefore you can possibly score while they cannot score, there is no reason to argue because youre just stubborn and refuse to attempt to find any alternate solution to better analyze the game.
4. and if you cannot admit that you would rather Crosby's line posses the puck 60% of the time rather than 53% of the time...youre just an bumhole. - joecool2931
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1) Different websites are giving different numbers that are in the same ballpark. Instead of sitting in the peanut gallery criticizing, show me the numbers that you're finding (I assume the margin of error is +/-1, big freaking deal, but nice point, bud).
2) You think so? Don't care. Your criticism here is only relevant if shot attempt percentages should be expected to have a different influence based on how many games have been played. You're trying, but this is like Swiss cheese logic; full of holes and assumptions.
3) Have you read the blogs? I never said it was pointless. I, like many NHL coaches and GMs, was simply suggesting that it should be taken with a very large grain of salt (I didn't think you'd get your panties all in a bundle over my making such a suggestion; everyone knows RW is bias af and uses whatever numbers he can to support his biases). I apologize for insulting your cult. Between a team having possession and using it effectively, my inclination is that there are a lot of things that happen on the ice that determine who wins games (case in point, which seems to have gone over your head, Stanley Cup winning teams are not always the best possession drivers). I don't expect you to understand this, but while winning and Corsi variables may be slightly (or even significantly) correlated, it is not to say that a player that throws any puck at the net is better than a player that pulls up to make a good pass. Corsi would say that he is.
4) Finally, calm down, big guy. You're using one player to justify using a stat to judge anyone in the sport. There's no need to let that screen get you all tough and name-call-y. You can still be courteous in an online forum, and your ego can remain intact, even if someone disagrees with your beloved beliefs. |
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burgh4life87
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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I see him as a great cap exchange though. Ritchie’s a pretty decent middle six guy who costs way less than Gudbranson going into this offseason. Could also make Hornqvist expendable. - Victoro311
LW, so Hornqvist is out of the question and frankly with Jake, Simon, McCann, Galchenyuk, ZAR, and Tanev on the roster as left shots, I just don't see him playing. I forgot Kahun, but he hasn't shown me enough yet to not be a healthy scratch. I just don't see how a guy struggling to pot 10 EV goals is worth adding to a team with a bunch of decent middle 6 left shot wingers. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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LW, so Hornqvist is out of the question and frankly with Jake, Simon, McCann, Galchenyuk, ZAR, and Tanev on the roster as left shots, I just don't see him playing. I forgot Kahun, but he hasn't shown me enough yet to not be a healthy scratch. I just don't see how a guy struggling to pot 10 EV goals is worth adding to a team with a bunch of decent middle 6 left shot wingers. - burgh4life87
It's a cap dump and helps balance out the roster for right now. I don't think it really helps us either, LW is fairly stacked and I'm unconvinced JJ-Marino is a good idea.
I think we're better sending Marino down for now and working him in after some depth has returned and hopefully he has a better partner. But I'm higher on Gudbranson than most and don't think he'll be as hard to move later as others do. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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Brevity people, brevity. - Rinosaur
Praise the Lord 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Brevity people, brevity. - Rinosaur
Even if a post contains multiple large paragraphs it still only takes seconds to read. If you start reading it and there's early evidence of it being pure drivel you can stop reading and skip over it.
Don't sweat the small stuff...even if it's a big post... |
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123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: PA Joined: 07.03.2017
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I think it would be awesome to get Richie from Ana just for the cap space. I think the ultimate trade would be Gudbranson to Ana for a pick. Then Pens flipping the pick for Ho Sang |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Even if a post contains multiple large paragraphs it still only takes seconds to read. If you start reading it and there's early evidence of it being pure drivel you can stop reading and skip over it.
Don't sweat the small stuff...even if it's a big post... - MattStrat
My attention span can only handle so much. I mean, you lost me at “Even if a post”
Lol |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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My attention span can only handle so much. I mean, you lost me at “Even if a post”
Lol - Rinosaur
Hahaha |
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burgh4life87
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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Brevity people, brevity. - Rinosaur
Trade bad, me no like |
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burgh4life87
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.22.2014
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It's a cap dump and helps balance out the roster for right now. I don't think it really helps us either, LW is fairly stacked and I'm unconvinced JJ-Marino is a good idea.
I think we're better sending Marino down for now and working him in after some depth has returned and hopefully he has a better partner. But I'm higher on Gudbranson than most and don't think he'll be as hard to move later as others do. - Tojo.
I actually think Gudbranson deserves to play too. I think Marino should play his offside. |
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pens4life-66
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Location: BC Joined: 10.01.2013
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Id like to see.... JJ, Rust and a 3rd for Brodin. |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Trade bad, me no like - burgh4life87
See, this guy gets it. |
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pensfan024
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Location: somewhere in, VA Joined: 09.25.2012
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Even if a post contains multiple large paragraphs it still only takes seconds to read. If you start reading it and there's early evidence of it being pure drivel you can stop reading and skip over it.
Don't sweat the small stuff...even if it's a big post... - MattStrat
Heard that didn't you |
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Boudreau said he liked what he saw out of Rask against the Pens so he gave him a bigger role - he finally got to play with some talented players in Greenway and Donato. I didn’t think he was solid but he wasn’t bad either. His game winner against the Sens (who I’ll see on Saturday) was a pretty nifty goal |
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Hockey66
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Joined: 07.05.2019
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Boudreau said he liked what he saw out of Rask against the Pens so he gave him a bigger role - he finally got to play with some talented players in Greenway and Donato. I didn’t think he was solid but he wasn’t bad either. His game winner against the Sens (who I’ll see on Saturday) was a pretty nifty goal - WSCTeton17
Yeah, unfortunately I think that ship has sailed now. It's a shame Kessel had veto rights. |
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Yeah, unfortunately I think that ship has sailed now. It's a shame Kessel had veto rights. - Hockey66
Kessel has been fine in the games I’ve watched. The issue in AZ is definitely coaching. The first couple games of the season they only had 4 forwards play more than 14 minutes, that’s tough.
Oh Hinostroza, you had 34 ES points last year in a 3rd line role in just 72 games? I’ll start you off on the 4th line as a reward 😂 |
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Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somerset, PA Joined: 10.20.2013
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Kessel has been fine in the games I’ve watched. The issue in AZ is definitely coaching. The first couple games of the season they only had 4 forwards play more than 14 minutes, that’s tough.
Oh Hinostroza, you had 34 ES points last year in a 3rd line role in just 72 games? I’ll start you off on the 4th line as a reward 😂 - WSCTeton17
Kessel wanted his safe space coach. He got him. His career is done unless he gets traded to a cup team that can carry him in a year and a half. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Kessel has been fine in the games I’ve watched. The issue in AZ is definitely coaching. The first couple games of the season they only had 4 forwards play more than 14 minutes, that’s tough.
Oh Hinostroza, you had 34 ES points last year in a 3rd line role in just 72 games? I’ll start you off on the 4th line as a reward 😂 - WSCTeton17
Im watching Yotes and Jets right now. Phil being Phil. Bursts of speed here and there then lots of float. Wrister still looks lethal. He has 2 apples in 5 games (4.5) so far.
It's weird seeing him in that jersey...dont like it... |
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pens4life-66
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Location: BC Joined: 10.01.2013
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I put down $300 that Phil wouldn’t hit 70 points (took the under) with the yotes this year. Gonna win myself a nice $875. Check back to the blogs with some people saying Phil could carry his own line and he’s still a 80-85 point scorer hahaha |
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I put down $300 that Phil wouldn’t hit 70 points (took the under) with the yotes this year. Gonna win myself a nice $875. Check back to the blogs with some people saying Phil could carry his own line and he’s still a 80-85 point scorer hahaha - pens4life-66
That's the joke about Ryan Wilson saying we were screwed with the Malkin injury because we no longer had Kessel. What would we expect out of a Horn/McCann/Kessel 2nd line? Kessel was all PP points and Malkin line points, with the small exception of HBK
If anything, the lunch bucket, hard working team we've had on the ice lately is in stark contrast to what we'd have with Kessel on the roster. Tough to get young players to buy into playing hard and sticking to the system when a "Star" is off loafing and doing his own thing |
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