Honestly, what do you expect him to do? Still averaging 18 minutes per game, which is 7th on the team
- PatC80

I expect him to dominate when on the ice.
Either I am overestimating his abilities, or he still has 2-3 extra gears.

Anything under a 164 goal season is a disappointment in my book.
- Scabeh

The only player last night that looked like he could hang with Tampa's big 3, was Matthews..

Tavares and Marner did not look very good last night.
- PatC80

Leafs played poorly including Freddy. They were out hit badly. On the bright side, the Jet's Assistant GM was scouting Ceci yesterday -- one can only hope! I'll do a jig if it happens.

Anything under a 164 goal season is a disappointment in my book.
- Scabeh

You are way too easy on him. He needs to be held to the Neal standard of at least 180 goals

You are way too easy on him. He needs to be held to the Neal standard of at least 180 goals
- Archaic

Typical Leafs fan putting too much pressure on young guys.

You are way too easy on him. He needs to be held to the Neal standard of at least 180 goals
- Archaic

I just don't get where Max is coming from. What else do you expect from Matthews?

Maybe, if Matthews' save % and GAA was up there with the best goalies in the world?

Typical Leafs fan putting too much pressure on young guys.
- Scabeh

Calling Max a typical Leaf's fan is a bit of a stretch.

Leafs played poorly including Freddy. They were out hit badly. On the bright side, the Jet's Assistant GM was scouting Ceci yesterday -- one can only hope! I'll do a jig if it happens.
- winsix

What would the Jets give up for Ceci?

What would the Jets give up for Ceci?
- PatC80

Anything over a seventh would be a bonus for me. Free up $4 million, sign a player and do a jig

Anything over a seventh would be a bonus for me. Free up $4 million, sign a player and do a jig
- winsix

Yah, I'm with you on that.. I just need to practice my jig a little first.

Calling Max a typical Leaf's fan is a bit of a stretch.
- winsix

Imagine what it would be like if Matthews had 7 goals in 5 games..

I just don't get where Max is coming from. What else do you expect from Matthews?

Maybe, if Matthews' save % and GAA was up there with the best goalies in the world?
- PatC80

do you really think this is the best Matthews can do?
I guess I'm overestimating his abilities then - I want to see Datsyuk like dominance.

do you really think this is the best Matthews can do?
I guess I'm overestimating his abilities then - I want to see Datsyuk like dominance.
- MaximusAurelius

I think 7 points in 5 games is impressive, he could have had more if not for posts
I think winning 59% of faceoffs is impressive
I think having a 62% Corsi rating is impressive.


Not sure why you don't think that's good enough, considering he is 3rd in ice time amongst forwards on our team.
Maybe you should blame Babcock? Maybe you should expect more from Tavares or Marner? Maybe go fly that kite?

Leafs played poorly including Freddy. They were out hit badly. On the bright side, the Jet's Assistant GM was scouting Ceci yesterday -- one can only hope! I'll do a jig if it happens.
- winsix

Well that sucls donkey balls. Can't we just send him/her a YouTube montage? Seeing him play will rule out any deal

Well that sucls donkey balls. Can't we just send him/her a YouTube montage? Seeing him play will rule out any deal
- walshyleafsfan

I see.... Is the highlight package of Ceci, just him coming out of the dressing room and skating during the pre-game warm up?

Tell Babock the "Right Way" is to put out his lineup like the coach last night did.


Ask Cooper if he thinks a grinder is needed on every line.
- RogerRoeper

We had zero grinders out there last night....1 guy throws checks the rest just shinny around waiting for the puck to magically appear at the red line.

Saw this on Twatter;


Scott Wheeler‏Verified account @scottcwheeler ·


There’s already a lot of Leafs hysteria going around about Dubas’ roster construction and the team’s size but...

1. They’re the 8th heaviest team in the league
2. They’re exactly the average height
3. They’ve received .876 goaltending from their starter
- PatC80

Save percentage is going to be low when the team allows 1 timers from the slot.

Sometimes poor playing leads to poor goaltending. IMO

We had zero grinders out there last night....1 guy throws checks the rest just shinny around waiting for the puck to magically appear at the red line.
- Garnie

See why trading Kadri was a (frank)ing stupid idea? Lolzzzz

Not only subtract his grit, but get even more b!tched by adding the softest D-man in the league.

(frank) Dubas for realsies.

Keep Kadri, don’t sign JT, trade Willy for Tkachuk, sign Panarin... etc.. I know hindsight is 20/20 but they could have went a different direction with a heavier physical presence and it feels like it would have worked better. Dubas airballed on the style he chose to use.

Panarin Matthews Marner
Tkachuk Kadri Kapanen

Rielly Dermott Muzzin Sandin - then have a couple Polak types (Gudas?) on the third pair.

Save percentage is going to be low when the team allows 1 timers from the slot.

Sometimes poor playing leads to poor goaltending. IMO
- Garnie

That’s exactly what I said, too..

See why trading Kadri was a (frank)ing stupid idea? Lolzzzz

Not only subtract his grit, but get even more b!tched by adding the softest D-man in the league.

(frank) Dubas for realsies.

Keep Kadri, don’t sign JT, trade Willy for Tkachuk, sign Panarin... etc.. I know hindsight is 20/20 but they could have went a different direction with a heavier physical presence and it feels like it would have worked better. Dubas airballed on the style he chose to use.

Panarin Matthews Marner
Tkachuk Kadri Kapanen

Rielly Dermott Muzzin Sandin - then have a couple Polak types (Gudas?) on the third pair.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Polak was absolutely hated by the fanbase.

Polak was absolutely hated by the fanbase.
- walshyleafsfan

Not true, only by the anti violence group.

See why trading Kadri was a (frank)ing stupid idea? Lolzzzz

Not only subtract his grit, but get even more b!tched by adding the softest D-man in the league.

(frank) Dubas for realsies.

Keep Kadri, don’t sign JT, trade Willy for Tkachuk, sign Panarin... etc.. I know hindsight is 20/20 but they could have went a different direction with a heavier physical presence and it feels like it would have worked better. Dubas airballed on the style he chose to use.

Panarin Matthews Marner
Tkachuk Kadri Kapanen

Rielly Dermott Muzzin Sandin - then have a couple Polak types (Gudas?) on the third pair.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Polak was absolutely hated by the fanbase.
- walshyleafsfan

Who gives a poop? He was a gorilla and it scared people. I didn’t hate him, but I also didn’t say Polak specifically, just a rough dude who’ll clear the front of the net. Make the other team HATE going there.

Who gives a poop? He was a gorilla and it scared people. I didn’t hate him, but I also didn’t say Polak specifically, just a rough dude who’ll clear the front of the net. Make the other team HATE going there.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Nobody was scared of Roman Polak. You just park your ass in there and hope he takes an idiotic penalty.

Nobody was scared of Roman Polak. You just park your ass in there and hope he takes an idiotic penalty.
- BINGO!

He used to injure guys all the time.

(frank)in’ Polak was reckless,

But I see you guys are going to run with the “why Polak” line, so I reiterate, I didn’t say Polak specifically.