Absolutely. They tuned him out after the second year.

He doesn't have the players to play the way he wants to. I assume he basically just lets them do what they want and offer encouragement.

How do you convince any of these guys to play a solid defensive system? Is it even possible?
- walshyleafsfan

Wow, what else did the players say when you were talking to them?

Good to see the oil 3-0.

Absolutely. They tuned him out after the second year.

He doesn't have the players to play the way he wants to. I assume he basically just lets them do what they want and offer encouragement.

How do you convince any of these guys to play a solid defensive system? Is it even possible?
- walshyleafsfan

I half wonder if it's too complicated. Harpur couldn't hack it, Ceci said it was a lot more complicated than Ottawa's system.

Clearly a penalty. Petan is just stupid and should be a Marlie right now.
- JohnFergusonJr

I guess it escaped your notice that the Tampa guy was grabbing his stick.

Seriously, if that's the case, he has to go.
- fifty__missions

He probably will go. However, do the Leafs have the personnel to play solid defensively? I don't think it's just trolling that 30 other fanbases, 90% of the media and most likely the majority of NHL players think the Leafs are awful defensively.

Wow, what else did the players say when you were talking to them?
- Zezel

They can't wait until they become an RFA.

There was other stuff but i was sworn to secrecy

He probably will go. However, do the Leafs have the personnel to play solid defensively? I don't think it's just trolling that 30 other fanbases, 90% of the media and most likely the majority of NHL players think the Leafs are awful defensively.
- walshyleafsfan

nteresting that Mitch Marner was put out to take that DZ draw on the PK that led to Tampa's 2nd goal. Hadn't taken any SH draws this year. Right side is also Spezza's strong side. Spezza led the NHL in DZ face-off win % last year.

Very odd

Oh. Turns out spezza too the penalty lol

I guess it escaped your notice that the Tampa guy was grabbing his stick.
- Aetherial

To remove it from being used illegally. The penalty was already pending.

It's a penalty.

He probably will go. However, do the Leafs have the personnel to play solid defensively? I don't think it's just trolling that 30 other fanbases, 90% of the media and most likely the majority of NHL players think the Leafs are awful defensively.
- walshyleafsfan

I don't think we're as bad as a lot of people think.
It's game 5. I think one of the biggest faults, and it was last year as well, is the PK. Where were/are we for goals against 5v5 last year and this year so far? I'm too lazy to look it up.

He probably will go. However, do the Leafs have the personnel to play solid defensively? I don't think it's just trolling that 30 other fanbases, 90% of the media and most likely the majority of NHL players think the Leafs are awful defensively.
- walshyleafsfan

Yeah but then since like the 60's that has pretty well been the case I mean we took defensive advice and coaching from Mike Kitchen after all

Very odd

Oh. Turns out spezza too the penalty lol
- senstroll

Big no-no from a PKer. Can't kill penalties when you're taking them.

Should be Shore in the line-up instead of Petan. Roll with 3 centers on the 4th line. Makes a lot more sense.

Yeah, but if they get too hot during the night, they can just open the window!
- Atomic Wedgie

Get outta the (frank)ing way Mitch

To remove it from being used illegally. The penalty was already pending.

It's a penalty.
- JohnFergusonJr

The guys skates in, tries to turn around, loses his balance with The Leaf 's stick in his hands. bullpoop call, sorry.

We'll see if the Leafs get a marginal makeup call their way, because you know if the situation were reversed that Tampa would be getting a couple cheapies their way

Come on! I was promised 7 goals every period

He probably will go. However, do the Leafs have the personnel to play solid defensively? I don't think it's just trolling that 30 other fanbases, 90% of the media and most likely the majority of NHL players think the Leafs are awful defensively.
- walshyleafsfan

It's 50/50. They might need a new coach but they'll need more defensively capable players too.

Wouldn't surprise me if nobody scored a goal this period for either team. Babcock still has their attention overall, just maybe not on every subject or every moment.

How’s that $11M dollar guy doing... Marner deserves more than Point? Lol

Hopefully he’ll turn around, but he doesn’t look like he will go anywhere near 90 points at this point. Just doesn’t have that wow factor anymore.

Every 10 points below 90, he’s overpaid by $1M. My guess is he will end up 60-70 points and thus overpaid by $2-3M. What a horrible contract.

Big no-no from a PKer. Can't kill penalties when you're taking them.

Should be Shore in the line-up instead of Petan. Roll with 3 centers on the 4th line. Makes a lot more sense.
- JohnFergusonJr

neither, but Shore over Petan. I am pretty much done with the Petan thing. I would rather see Korshkov up than Petan.

neither, but Shore over Petan. I am pretty much done with the Petan thing. I would rather see Korshkov up than Petan.
- Aetherial

Timmmmaaaaay over Petan!!!

I read a bunch of these posts and the words don't make sense. I think I'm having a stroke.

neither, but Shore over Petan. I am pretty much done with the Petan thing. I would rather see Korshkov up than Petan.
- Aetherial

Sounds like a movie.

How’s that $11M dollar guy doing... Marner deserves more than Point? Lol

Hopefully he’ll turn around, but he doesn’t look like he will go anywhere near 90 points at this point. Just doesn’t have that wow factor anymore.

Every 10 points below 90, he’s overpaid by $1M. My guess is he will end up 60-70 points and thus overpaid by $2-3M. What a horrible signing.
- gamerdoc

Guess again

I read a bunch of these posts and the words don't make sense. I think I'm having a stroke.
- Woderwick

Do you smell burnt toast?

Timmmmaaaaay over Petan!!!
- Roadrunner75

Yeaaaaaaaa! SP reference 👍👍👍👍🥳