Uh-Oh -----

Dallas RFA Julius Honka just signed a contract to play in Finland. The young defensman has an opt-out until December 1st. Interesting to see what the Stars do as a response...
- TommyGTrain

Probably nothing because Honka kinda sucks.

Probably nothing because Honka kinda sucks.
- 2sticks1puck

You're not necessarily wrong, but its hard for any team to give up on a high draft pick for no return. I remember when the Zuke to Dallas rumors started circulating, I thought Honka might be included in the trade. Defenseman are typically slower to develop, so you don't want to give up on them too early. However, if he is Dylan McIlrath 2.0, you may be correct.

You're not necessarily wrong, but its hard for any team to give up on a high draft pick for no return. I remember when the Zuke to Dallas rumors started circulating, I thought Honka might be included in the trade. Defenseman are typically slower to develop, so you don't want to give up on them too early. However, if he is Dylan McIlrath 2.0, you may be correct.
- TommyGTrain

Dmen do take longer, but in today's game if they aren't regular players by age 24-25, they probably will never be anything. Everyone likes to bring up Chara as an example of a team giving up on a guy too early, but he was posting great numbers in Ottawa and was even showing some signs of putting it together at the end of his NYI tenure.

Even someone like Stralman showed that he was probably a fixture in the lineup that couldn't stay healthy and even despite the injuries, had played in twice as many games as Honka's comparable age.

It's mostly pretty normal, but I think it was adjusted so people are scoring more per week. In most of my other leagues players will end in the 400-600 point range. In this league players are hitting 1000

I think the faceoffs won and lost and the hits/block shots are helping that push
- TPC

Holy poop.

Sounds like a fun format though. I might have to poke my nose around here more often.

Holy poop.

Sounds like a fun format though. I might have to poke my nose around here more often.
- Wildschwein

Nah, don't bother.

Holy poop.

Sounds like a fun format though. I might have to poke my nose around here more often.
- Wildschwein

Yea I am sure there will be an extra spot by next season

O.M.G.
I really don't know why, but I just went to BlueShirtBanter and read an article about the Stinky trade (ok, I do know that it's because I have no work right now!).
How can so many people be so (frank)ing stupid?????
Every.Single.One.Of.Them.

No, its cause you have a Richard like a corkscrew
- mdw7413

Shouldn’t that count for me rather than against me?

O.M.G.
I really don't know why, but I just went to BlueShirtBanter and read an article about the Stinky trade (ok, I do know that it's because I have no work right now!).
How can so many people be so (frank)ing stupid?????
Every.Single.One.Of.Them.
- Tonybere

I went on there once. I havent been back

Nah, don't bother.
- Fenrir

You cut me sir. You cut me deep.

Shouldn’t that count for me rather than against me?
- Wildschwein

Most corkscrews are about 3" long...

Shouldn’t that count for me rather than against me?
- Wildschwein

I will have to discuss this with the Commish JRR. I don't like your chances.

O.M.G.
I really don't know why, but I just went to BlueShirtBanter and read an article about the Stinky trade (ok, I do know that it's because I have no work right now!).
How can so many people be so (frank)ing stupid?????
Every.Single.One.Of.Them.
- Tonybere

Larry Brooks 100% correct here


1. When you get the chance to move a $4 million fourth-liner, which is what Vlad Namestnikov would have become by Saturday’s match against the Oilers at the Garden, you jump at it the way the Rangers did on Monday in sending No. 90 to the Senators.

You don’t wait for weeks or months, hoping to marginally increase the return for the impending rental property from a fourth-rounder and an AHL defenseman to perhaps a third-rounder plus.

Players get injured. Circumstances change. Opportunities vanish as quickly as they arise, which, we’re told was the case in Ottawa’s sudden interest in the 26-year-old pending free agent. Fact is, general manager Jeff Gorton had been seeking to move Namestnikov since last year’s deadline and had no takers throughout the summer, even with the Blueshirts offering to pick up between $1 and $2 million of the contract.

There is, however, an additional and heretofore overlooked reason Gorton was correct in moving expeditiously on the deal. That is its potential impact on next year’s cap.

Before the trade, the Rangers had approximately $1.4 million in space for this season while carrying between $4 million in potentially realistic entry-level contract performance bonuses. Earned bonuses that push teams over the cap are applied to the following season’s ledger.



Rangers youth is biggest beneficiary of Namestnikov trade



Therefore, the Blueshirts could have gone into next summer with around $2.5 million in overages applied to the 2020-21 cap that would have hamstrung the organization’s decision-making process. Imagine adding that much more dead space to a team that already is faced with handling just over $7.49 million in sunk cost next season. Would be devastating.

But by excising $3,145,161 from Namestnikov’s tab (the Rangers, picking up $750,000 on the contract, had already been charged $104,839 for his six days on the roster (thanks Capfriendly.com), the club is currently about $4.6 million under the cap and has a rather secure buffer zone against being charged with overages.

Which means that while Gorton has ample space with which to maneuver this year, neither he nor the organization has the license to be profligate and throw money away, say, on an expensive stopgap in the middle if the second-line center spot becomes an open wound. Because, repeat after me and not for the last time, this is not about this year. And moving Namestnikov this early gives the Rangers a head start on next year.

You cut me sir. You cut me deep.
- Wildschwein

[quote=jimbo83]Larry Brooks 100% correct here

That's exactly what this trade was. If Stinky plays well for the Sens and they are able to get more for him at the deadline, good for them. Would have liked a bit more back, but this was a salary dump and the Sens lowballed us. Simple as that.

Move on.

Larry Brooks 100% correct here


1. When you get the chance to move a $4 million fourth-liner, which is what Vlad Namestnikov would have become by Saturday’s match against the Oilers at the Garden, you jump at it the way the Rangers did on Monday in sending No. 90 to the Senators.

You don’t wait for weeks or months, hoping to marginally increase the return for the impending rental property from a fourth-rounder and an AHL defenseman to perhaps a third-rounder plus.

Players get injured. Circumstances change. Opportunities vanish as quickly as they arise, which, we’re told was the case in Ottawa’s sudden interest in the 26-year-old pending free agent. Fact is, general manager Jeff Gorton had been seeking to move Namestnikov since last year’s deadline and had no takers throughout the summer, even with the Blueshirts offering to pick up between $1 and $2 million of the contract.

There is, however, an additional and heretofore overlooked reason Gorton was correct in moving expeditiously on the deal. That is its potential impact on next year’s cap.

Before the trade, the Rangers had approximately $1.4 million in space for this season while carrying between $4 million in potentially realistic entry-level contract performance bonuses. Earned bonuses that push teams over the cap are applied to the following season’s ledger.



Rangers youth is biggest beneficiary of Namestnikov trade



Therefore, the Blueshirts could have gone into next summer with around $2.5 million in overages applied to the 2020-21 cap that would have hamstrung the organization’s decision-making process. Imagine adding that much more dead space to a team that already is faced with handling just over $7.49 million in sunk cost next season. Would be devastating.

But by excising $3,145,161 from Namestnikov’s tab (the Rangers, picking up $750,000 on the contract, had already been charged $104,839 for his six days on the roster (thanks Capfriendly.com), the club is currently about $4.6 million under the cap and has a rather secure buffer zone against being charged with overages.

Which means that while Gorton has ample space with which to maneuver this year, neither he nor the organization has the license to be profligate and throw money away, say, on an expensive stopgap in the middle if the second-line center spot becomes an open wound. Because, repeat after me and not for the last time, this is not about this year. And moving Namestnikov this early gives the Rangers a head start on next year.
- jimbo83

Is there really a significant contingent of Ranger fans that are upset about moving Namestnikov?

Is there really a significant contingent of Ranger fans that are upset about moving Namestnikov?
- eichiefs9

there is a contingent of Ranger fans who complain about absolutely everything

there is a contingent of Ranger fans who complain about absolutely everything
- jimbo83

Fortunato and Herman. All day every day.

there is a contingent of Ranger fans who complain about absolutely everything
- jimbo83

Stop sucking Brooks hog

Stop sucking Brooks hog
- mdw7413

Larry Brooks 100% correct here


1. When you get the chance to move a $4 million fourth-liner, which is what Vlad Namestnikov would have become by Saturday’s match against the Oilers at the Garden, you jump at it the way the Rangers did on Monday in sending No. 90 to the Senators.

You don’t wait for weeks or months, hoping to marginally increase the return for the impending rental property from a fourth-rounder and an AHL defenseman to perhaps a third-rounder plus.

Players get injured. Circumstances change. Opportunities vanish as quickly as they arise, which, we’re told was the case in Ottawa’s sudden interest in the 26-year-old pending free agent. Fact is, general manager Jeff Gorton had been seeking to move Namestnikov since last year’s deadline and had no takers throughout the summer, even with the Blueshirts offering to pick up between $1 and $2 million of the contract.

There is, however, an additional and heretofore overlooked reason Gorton was correct in moving expeditiously on the deal. That is its potential impact on next year’s cap.

Before the trade, the Rangers had approximately $1.4 million in space for this season while carrying between $4 million in potentially realistic entry-level contract performance bonuses. Earned bonuses that push teams over the cap are applied to the following season’s ledger.



Rangers youth is biggest beneficiary of Namestnikov trade



Therefore, the Blueshirts could have gone into next summer with around $2.5 million in overages applied to the 2020-21 cap that would have hamstrung the organization’s decision-making process. Imagine adding that much more dead space to a team that already is faced with handling just over $7.49 million in sunk cost next season. Would be devastating.

But by excising $3,145,161 from Namestnikov’s tab (the Rangers, picking up $750,000 on the contract, had already been charged $104,839 for his six days on the roster (thanks Capfriendly.com), the club is currently about $4.6 million under the cap and has a rather secure buffer zone against being charged with overages.

Which means that while Gorton has ample space with which to maneuver this year, neither he nor the organization has the license to be profligate and throw money away, say, on an expensive stopgap in the middle if the second-line center spot becomes an open wound. Because, repeat after me and not for the last time, this is not about this year. And moving Namestnikov this early gives the Rangers a head start on next year.
- jimbo83

Brooks is spot on. Teams also weren't going to trip over themselves to help us out in the offseason knowing we had a cap crunch. Also, I'm sure they were going to give their own internal options a chance to before trading for someone.

Reading the BSB comments yesterday was just baffling. Somehow they already think Gorton/JD are the worst front office in the league. I also had to laugh about Fortunato complaining that he always gets crapped on social media.

Most corkscrews are about 3" long...
- Tonybere

3 inches coiled sir. Then you must also take into account the metric conversion. Once all of that is done, I’m roughly twice the length and girth of MDW.

Brooks is spot on. Teams also weren't going to trip over themselves to help us out in the offseason knowing we had a cap crunch. Also, I'm sure they were going to give their own internal options a chance to before trading for someone.

Reading the BSB comments yesterday was just baffling. Somehow they already think Gorton/JD are the worst front office in the league. I also had to laugh about Fortunato complaining that he always gets crapped on social media.
- 2sticks1puck

They are 2-0 have a crap load of young talent, not sure whats to complain about.

F Brooks

3 inches coiled sir. Then you must also take into account the metric conversion. Once all of that is done, I’m roughly twice the length and girth of MDW.
- Wildschwein

Well thats a horrible comparison. Like comparing miniature corn to a cocktail weenie