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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 1 @ 12:49 PM ET
And?
- Powerslave


There were four 20 goal scorers on that team. Probably 4 here. Maybe 5.

The 4th line is worse.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 1 @ 12:49 PM ET
And?
- Powerslave


We are getting worse.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 1 @ 12:49 PM ET
And?
- Powerslave

I think he was making the case the current lines are worse
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:50 PM ET
Elie, Wilson, Lazar and Nelson all cleared. Hmm, no one wanted these guys for free.
- adambuffalo


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 1 @ 12:50 PM ET
When does the IR window open?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 1 @ 12:51 PM ET
We still have an empty roster spot. Assuming they IR Montour and Bogo.

What gives?

- OneKaneOneCup


The salary cap.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:51 PM ET
Lance Lysowski
@LLysowski
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32m
Zach Bogosian had a few setbacks in his recovery, per Krueger. Still a "ways away." Doesn't sound like Bogosian will be coming back anytime soon


Sabres also announce that water is wet and that Lockport is America's Top City under 1M
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 1 @ 12:52 PM ET
We are getting worse.
- RhinoFan


Idk if it's worse, but wow, we have not come very far in 4 years at all
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:52 PM ET
When does the IR window open?
- buffalofan19


tomorrow at 5
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
One thing that I do find strange is that Pilut was sent down to Rochester, but Ukko Pekka-Lukkonen stays on the roster, which I assume means he goes on IR.

What's the point of that?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:53 PM ET
I give up

no real nhl prospect wingers in the pipeline close to being ready

and we do not claim sprong or sang


f this

- homiedclown


But.. no one else did either.. interesting.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:54 PM ET
the eye test says we already have 6 wingers that play atrocious D


what's one more?

botts scouted him, helped draft him, so it seem he must not like something about him

perhaps it's his rapid hair loss

- homiedclown



He is one fugly looking hombre 😂

As a pest and overall defensive forward, I always liked Sobotka.

Until last year.

Maybe Ralph gets him back to the old Sobotka. He DID have 31 points two years ago. Just saying.

It's all I have.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Oct 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
He is one fugly looking hombre 😂

As a pest and overall defensive forward, I always liked Sobotka.

Until last year.

Maybe Ralph gets him back to the old Sobotka. He DID have 31 points two years ago. Just saying.

It's all I have.

- Powerslave

I think they were talking about sprong.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
One thing that I do find strange is that Pilut was sent down to Rochester, but Ukko Pekka-Lukkonen stays on the roster, which I assume means he goes on IR.

What's the point of that?

- buffalofan19


Maybe they want him working with Bales? Who knows. He'll be sent down as soon as he's healthy.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
I think he was making the case the current lines are worse
- homiedclown


2015-16


Kane-ROR-Reinhart
Moulson-Eichel-Ennis
McGinn-Legwand-Girgensons
Foligno-Larsson-Gionta



2019-20

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Mojo-Sobotka
Vesey-Mitts-Sheary
Lockport-Twins-Okposo

By position, whether they've gotten better, worse, same or unknown.


Unknown-Better-Same
Better-worse-worse
Same-unknown-better
worse-same-worse
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:56 PM ET
He is one fugly looking hombre 😂

As a pest and overall defensive forward, I always liked Sobotka.

Until last year.

Maybe Ralph gets him back to the old Sobotka. He DID have 31 points two years ago. Just saying.

It's all I have.

- Powerslave


Blasphemy for suggesting this thought.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 1 @ 12:56 PM ET
But.. no one else did either.. interesting.
- TheSabresTaco

again, my point nobody wants to address


name our best wing prospects in the minors, not centers


smith, wilson, ellie?


Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:56 PM ET
There were four 20 goal scorers on that team. Probably 4 here. Maybe 5.

The 4th line is worse.

- jcragcrumple



Why the focus on the 4th line? I don't get it.

The biggest problem that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US identified last year was a lack of depth scoring from the middle 6.

He improved that.

Yes, there's still a hole at RW2.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Oct 1 @ 12:57 PM ET
One thing that I do find strange is that Pilut was sent down to Rochester, but Ukko Pekka-Lukkonen stays on the roster, which I assume means he goes on IR.

What's the point of that?

- buffalofan19



PHam said something about Pilut being able to rehab in Rochester. UPL still has a ways to go and would be better suited for rehab in Buffalo.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 1 @ 12:57 PM ET
Ralph Krueger says Brandon Montour (hand) is still a few weeks away from contact and that Zach Bogosian (hip) had a few setbacks during summer and is “a ways away” from joining team
- adambuffalo


I said last week that Bogo should go on LTIR and got zero replies. 2 hip surgeries in 14 months does not bode well for an NHL dman, especially with Bogo's injury history. I think he's done.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:57 PM ET
I think he was making the case the current lines are worse
- homiedclown



I don't see a 40 goal scorer or 80 point center on that 2015 roster.

Maybe you can point one out.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 1 @ 12:58 PM ET
again, my point nobody wants to address


name our best wing prospects in the minors, not centers


smith, wilson, ellie?

- homiedclown



Who on waivers makes a material difference?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:58 PM ET

- homiedclown



Woof

He's the Dutch Phil Kessel
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 1 @ 12:59 PM ET
CJ Smith is the one that bothered me the most.

The sabres are probably right. He probably wasn't good enough to make the team. He is probably a career AHL player. This was probably his last shot.

And you know what? It's their fault. Smith is an asset. This organization has done this with Mancari, with Bailey, with so many guys. You need to make a decision on a guy, he is your prospect. Either you trade him while he still has value, or you give him a shot. You can't just let them sit until they become worthless. He could have been traded two years ago for something, or he could be given a shot this year. What they have done is let an asset disappear for nothing.

- matty12345


Mancari and Bailey both had ample opportunity. They did squat with it, which is probably why you can't remember. Bailey ended up getting passed by younger players and was struggling even at the AHL level at times.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 1 @ 12:59 PM ET
again, my point nobody wants to address


name our best wing prospects in the minors, not centers


smith, wilson, ellie?

- homiedclown


Counterpoint - They're not prospects. They're CJ Smiths. Boardline, waiver eligible, young players. You NEED to play them in the NHL or put them back on waivers.

I mean, I am certain us here at hockeybuzz are smarter than the professional talent evaluators, but there's definitely a reason they all pass.


We need better and more wing prospects. Absolutely. I think we got a couple nice ones during this draft.. of course they'll take years to show.
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