I'd take sprong or ho sang.

I know ho sang is a pain in the tits, but I think he still has upside.
- jcragcrumple

Could be a claim coming. They either waived extra players to make room for a signing, or because they don't intend on starting with 23 healthy players.

BUUUUUUUUST
- thatsapickle

You spelled Brandon Dubinsky At Best, wrong.

Could be a claim coming. They either waived extra players to make room for a signing, or because they don't intend on starting with 23 healthy players.
- Lunaion

They wouldn't make room for a claim before making an actual claim. There's injuries, but I think we're down to 23. Montour and Bogo will be put on IR. Montour probably retro.

Forwards as I see them.

Goaloffson-ECHL-Skunk
$9 Million-Swedish New Guy-Never Wanted to Be Here
Okmoulslow-The Fat One-He Fast
Latvian Lockport-Scandinavian Lockport-Top 6
- buffalofan19

If i may make a suggestion, when discussing mojo at center, I believe he should be referred to as "Ott"

If i may make a suggestion, when discussing mojo at center, I believe he should be referred to as "Ott"
- jcragcrumple

NOT A CENTER.

My god from some of the posts on here you’d think botts sent jack Hughes to the minors over a guy like larsson, Asplund and lazar are not taking us anywhere that the current guys can’t.
Many ppl said Cm was rushed last year but just want to throw rookies into the lineup, hate for certain players has blinded logic here it looks like.

They wouldn't make room for a claim before making an actual claim. There's injuries, but I think we're down to 23. Montour and Bogo will be put on IR. Montour probably retro.
- TheSabresTaco

It's kind of amazing how loosely the NHL allows you to use IR, whereas the NFL has really strict rules with it.

It's kind of amazing how loosely the NHL allows you to use IR, whereas the NFL has really strict rules with it.
- buffalofan19

could be just due to the fact that it's a longer season and smaller overall roster sizes.

So let me see if I got this right. The Sabres have the same putrid goaltending and Okposo and Sobotka will be in the top 9 and Girgs and Larry bring up the rear on the 4th line. Don't sound to me like much has changed. And it's too bad because I was 100% in on the idea that there was going to be an open competition and really liked what Tage and Asplund did. Fool me once.

Botts, you got some 'splanin to do.

Well at least Rochester will be good enough to watch. Looks like I'll make the trip down the thruway again like last year to watch more of them than the so called parent club.
- mhp

Is it not at all possible they looked at the young kids but didn’t think they were ready?
Because we all think they are ready for a full 82 game season doesn’t mean the gm and coach agree.

They wouldn't make room for a claim before making an actual claim. There's injuries, but I think we're down to 23. Montour and Bogo will be put on IR. Montour probably retro.
- TheSabresTaco

22

They can't waive anyone else and have them clear before the final roster is due. Odds are they are just starting with 22 and not putting Montour on IR, but the spot is there to use if they want to.

I stopped reading after "Okposo is slow and useless"

Okposo more than doubled thompsons output last season and he did a lot of that while playing on the fourth line


just sayin
- Michael Pachla

14 goals and 29 points from the fourth line doesn’t seem useless, I’d assume if Kyle made 2 mill a year nobody has an issue with his play.

I think Botterill is solid in a lot of areas

I like 70% of this roster

My problem is that it’s painfully obvious that 30% of it needs to go, and even subtracting 10% probably would give us a shot at a WC.

I don’t think it’s justifiable to have as many scrubs here as we do.

Every team has 1 or 2. The bad ones have more. We have more than 1-2.

Garbage day was today. Botterill didn’t take the cans to the curb

I think Botterill is solid in a lot of areas

I like 70% of this roster

My problem is that it’s painfully obvious that 30% of it needs to go, and even subtracting 10% probably would give us a shot at a WC.

I don’t think it’s justifiable to have as many scrubs here as we do.

Every team has 1 or 2. The bad ones have more. We have more than 1-2.

Garbage day was today. Botterill didn’t take the cans to the curb
- OneKaneOneCup

And who exactly is taking the place of the cans he didn't kick?

I stopped reading after "Okposo is slow and useless"

Okposo more than doubled thompsons output last season and he did a lot of that while playing on the fourth line


just sayin
- Michael Pachla

Just sayin if you truly believe Okposo deserves to be on this team then I guess you don't understand regression in statistics. I don't care what Thompson did last year. We know what we're getting in Okposo and it will only be a decline from last year. At least Thompson still has potential

I think Botterill is solid in a lot of areas

I like 70% of this roster

My problem is that it’s painfully obvious that 30% of it needs to go, and even subtracting 10% probably would give us a shot at a WC.

I don’t think it’s justifiable to have as many scrubs here as we do.

Every team has 1 or 2. The bad ones have more. We have more than 1-2.

Garbage day was today. Botterill didn’t take the cans to the curb
- OneKaneOneCup

So today is the day that most teams waive players and try to "sneak" them through waivers. If you WANT a player claimed, waiving a different day would be better. But I doubt anyone would claim sobotka, okposo, or girgensons.

And who exactly is taking the place of the cans he didn't kick?
- HonkFortheGoose

Your point earlier about players needing to have a role is true. However, in todays NHL they have to be able to skate and produce offensivley no matter where they are in the line up.

You can get away with ONE of Larsson, Sobotka and Girgensons. Prefferably the cheapest/youngest of the three but not all three.

Okposo is slow and only going to get worse. Put him in the press box unless injury if you don't have the guts to release him and eat the money.

It's ridiculous I have to justify giving fresh blood a chance. I don't think Lazar or Thompson make us a playoff team but they offer something different and that is at least refreshing.

Oloffson Eichel Sheary
Skinner Johansson Reinhart
Vesey Mittlestadt Rodrigues
Lazar Larsson Thompson

That lineup looks drastically different from last year and it offers us the chance to have 4 lines that can score. Swap Sobotka or Girgensons for Thompson if you really want the kid to get a chance at bigger mins but don't have all 4 of larsson, girgensons, sobotka and Okposo n the line up because that won't get us anywhere but picking 5th-10th again.

And who exactly is taking the place of the cans he didn't kick?
- HonkFortheGoose

Marco Scandella and Vlad Sobotka were legit bottom
5 at their position last season. Okposo not far behind

So...almost anyone basically

Your point earlier about players needing to have a role is true. However, in todays NHL they have to be able to skate and produce offensivley no matter where they are in the line up.

You can get away with ONE of Larsson, Sobotka and Girgensons. Prefferably the cheapest/youngest of the three but not all three.

Okposo is slow and only going to get worse. Put him in the press box unless injury if you don't have the guts to release him and eat the money.

It's ridiculous I have to justify giving fresh blood a chance. I don't think Lazar or Thompson make us a playoff team but they offer something different and that is at least refreshing.

Oloffson Eichel Sheary
Skinner Johansson Reinhart
Vesey Mittlestadt Rodrigues
Lazar Larsson Thompson

That lineup looks drastically different from last year and it offers us the chance to have 4 lines that can score. Swap Sobotka or Girgensons for Thompson if you really want the kid to get a chance at bigger mins but don't have all 4 of larsson, girgensons, sobotka and Okposo n the line up because that won't get us anywhere but picking 5th-10th again.
- bluengold12

Trust me, like 90% of us would rather see better as well. Just because I can make a case for a guy being here, doesn't mean I actually am OK with what's going on in general. I just understand that it's not as easy for a GM to do the things that us fans would like to see. Just trying to be more logical about it and less emotional, if that makes sense.

I'm frustrated too. I'd rather not see Sobotka on the team. Okposo needs to hang em up before he can't remember the names of his children from day to day. But the reality is that a GM has to be cautious how they handle these situations because you cannot just go out and waive all these guys. That's not a good look for your organization and can make it difficult to sign players.

Marco Scandella and Vlad Sobotka were legit bottom
5 at their position last season. Okposo not far behind

So...almost anyone basically
- OneKaneOneCup

And what exactly do you do with Scandella, Okposo, and Sobotka that doesn't set your organization back in other ways?

And what exactly do you do with Scandella, Okposo, and Sobotka that doesn't set your organization back in other ways?
- HonkFortheGoose

I meant "accident"...
Falling down some stairs

Probably murder.
- jochfr

Seriously though. Everyone thinks it's as easy as just sending them to the AHL or something.

Well, now you have a reputation that may make players decide they don't want to even look your way when they hit free agency. Or your hurting the team that's supposed to be used to develop the players of the future. Or you're handcuffing yourself when it comes to the cap because you decided to buy them out.

The options suck, I won't lie. But it is what it is at this point.

I meant "accident"...
Falling down some stairs
- jochfr

That's only possible for Zemgus.

Seriously though. Everyone thinks it's as easy as just sending them to the AHL or something.

Well, now you have a reputation that may make players decide they don't want to even look your way when they hit free agency. Or your hurting the team that's supposed to be used to develop the players of the future. Or you're handcuffing yourself when it comes to the cap because you decided to buy them out.

The options suck, I won't lie. But it is what it is at this point.
- HonkFortheGoose

I dont believe this is a real thing

We did it to Moulson and Skinner signed an enormous extension here

We could do it again

I meant "accident"...
Falling down some stairs
- jochfr

ALSO:

Obligatory....

And what exactly do you do with Scandella, Okposo, and Sobotka that doesn't set your organization back in other ways?
- HonkFortheGoose

If you waive a player making over $1m this year to the AHL, the NHL team saves a cap hit of ~$900k (so if player A makes $4m, sending to AHL leaves a $3.1m cap hit), then replace said player will a rookie contract (or similar) player and the cap hit is the same, but you get a better player. Right?