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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:50 AM ET

- NorthNuck

The guy has been punished 3 times in 3 seasons by the team.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 30 @ 11:50 AM ET
So long term? he does get hurt again and goes on LTIR and Van has 3.36 in cap space for instead of sending him down and him never getting hurt and Van still having 2.31 on the cap.

If you did send Gaudette down and Sven gets hurt, you can call up Gaudette. If Gaudette gets hurt and Sven is claimed. Back to dumpster diving in Utica.

- manvanfan



And he doesnt get hurt again? But only scores 8 goals a year? Come on man, you gotta make a decision, they arent all going to be popular or understood.

The left wing has Miller, Ferland, Roussel, Pearson, Eriksson, Schaller.......nobody wants Eriksson and Baertschi makes more than Schaller....soooo, do the math.....Baertschi is a risk right now.....

I like SB too actually, but someone has to go and it wont be Miller, Ferland, Pearson, Roussel and unfortunately, Eriksson.....

#assetmanagement #gottarollthedie
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Sep 30 @ 11:50 AM ET
The Sven things is a little shocking when Shaller (healthy scratched so much) is there too.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:51 AM ET
I bet the sharks claim Baertschi to fill in for Kane as well
- NorthNuck

Anaheim, Columbus or LA.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 30 @ 11:52 AM ET
Luke Schenn on waivers, Hughes is probably crossing his fingers.
- phyllee


Somewhere Brian Burke is still saying he is Captain Material and "Off Limits" in any trade proposal
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 30 @ 11:52 AM ET
I bet the sharks claim Baertschi to fill in for Kane as well
- NorthNuck



I'll shit my pants....

And its not like it hasnt happened before....chompsey literally poop his pants in the office before....fart turned into something more....

#Kaneisboss #shitpants
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:53 AM ET
After Van gave up 4 PP goals in one game when Gaudette and Pearson were on for 3 of them. Yes, you do need PK guys.
- manvanfan


yes but the list is already pretty long ahead of those 2 vs those capable of playing multiple pp spots

sutter
beagle
motte
horvat
loui
rousell
schaller




then there is a few who can fill in but not a first choice
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:53 AM ET
And he doesnt get hurt again? But only scores 8 goals a year? Come on man, you gotta make a decision, they arent all going to be popular or understood.

The left wing has Miller, Ferland, Roussel, Pearson, Eriksson, Schaller.......nobody wants Eriksson and Baertschi makes more than Schaller....soooo, do the math.....Baertschi is a risk right now.....

I like SB too actually, but someone has to go and it wont be Miller, Ferland, Pearson, Roussel and unfortunately, Eriksson.....

#assetmanagement #gottarollthedie

- chompsey

If he doesn't get hurt and scores 8 goals, you can waive him. By waiving him now, you are losing multiple options down the road for him. All for a player who has had a good pre season.

Come on man. Miller has played right wing the entire pre season.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 30 @ 11:56 AM ET
Wow, that’s big if they waive Sven. I quite like him, actually. Maybe they waive him hoping he’ll get claimed so they can take all that money off the books?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:56 AM ET
yes but the list is already pretty long ahead of those 2 vs those capable of playing multiple pp spots

sutter
beagle
motte
horvat
loui
rousell
schaller




then there is a few who can fill in but not a first choice

- johnnykarate

Schaller and Eriksson are PK guys. That's why Sven is getting waived instead. That was the point.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:58 AM ET
Wow, that’s big if they waive Sven. I quite like him, actually. Maybe they waive him hoping he’ll get claimed so they can take all that money off the books?
- NewYorkNuck

I don't even "like" Sven. You could play him and raise his value and trade him. Or he gets hurt and LTIR for the rest of his contract. Waiving him he still counts for 2.3 against the cap if he clears.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 30 @ 12:00 PM ET
If he doesn't get hurt and scores 8 goals, you can waive him. By waiving him now, you are losing multiple options down the road for him. All for a player who has had a good pre season.

Come on man. Miller has played right wing the entire pre season.

- manvanfan



Doesnt change the fact that they have 6 other LWers right now besides Baertschi.

3 gotta go. I'm fine with it. This, one again, is a typical Canuck fan meltdown over nothing. I could care less if he gets claimed. Bye bye $3.3 million....

#JBisboss #justhadanawkwardcrap #letsgettheseasongoing

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 30 @ 12:02 PM ET
Wow, that’s big if they waive Sven. I quite like him, actually. Maybe they waive him hoping he’ll get claimed so they can take all that money off the books?
- NewYorkNuck

That has to be what it's about.

I don't understand why the need for cap space would be that great, considering they have everyone under contract and could just play him into a trade if they don't want him.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 12:03 PM ET
Doesnt change the fact that they have 6 other LWers right now besides Baertschi.

3 gotta go. I'm fine with it. This, one again, is a typical Canuck fan meltdown over nothing. I could care less if he gets claimed. Bye bye $3.3 million....

#JBisboss #justhadanawkwardcrap #letsgettheseasongoing

- chompsey

When another Canucks fan thinks he's smarter than the rest of the other Canucks fans.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 30 @ 12:06 PM ET
That has to be what it's about.

I don't understand why the need for cap space would be that great, considering they have everyone under contract and could just play him into a trade if they don't want him.

- NorthNuck

90K in cap savings between Baertschi and Gaudette if not claimed.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 30 @ 12:07 PM ET
When another Canucks fan thinks he's smarter than the rest of the other Canucks fans.
- manvanfan



Thanks quite a jump Sparky.....Im just making logic of it rather than melting down like the usual dick mittens.....and I'm probably smarter than you anyway but thats neither here nor there.....

#JBisboss #itsokmanvanchillout #letsgetitgoing
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Sep 30 @ 12:08 PM ET
Luke Schenn on waivers, Hughes is probably crossing his fingers.
- phyllee


Satiar Shah heard the Canucks put in a claim on Schenn
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 30 @ 12:09 PM ET
90K in cap savings between Baertschi and Gaudette if not claimed.
- manvanfan

They're likely hoping for him to get claimed so they get the whole contract off the books is what I meant
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 30 @ 12:09 PM ET
Satiar Shah heard the Canucks put in a claim on Schenn
- phyllee

johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 30 @ 12:10 PM ET
Schaller and Eriksson are PK guys. That's why Sven is getting waived instead. That was the point.
- manvanfan


and my point was that the powerplay list loses quality because of it. imo theres a steep drop off in quality after:

petterson
boeser
horvat
miller
ferland

i swear if sutter sees any powerplay time this year...
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Sep 30 @ 12:11 PM ET

- NorthNuck


I dont mind it. Sure he doesnt make the Canucks better. But when he had two guys pinned down for touching Hughes made it more enjoyable to watch.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 30 @ 12:11 PM ET
That has to be what it's about.

I don't understand why the need for cap space would be that great, considering they have everyone under contract and could just play him into a trade if they don't want him.

- NorthNuck


Maybe Roussel is closer than we know, so they’re trying to send SB down not and get him through rather than later on when they can just send Schaller down...

Honestly, a bit strange IMO, would rather waive LE or Schaller, but such is.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 30 @ 12:14 PM ET
Maybe Roussel is closer than we know, so they’re trying to send SB down not and get him through rather than later on when they can just send Schaller down...

Honestly, a bit strange IMO, would rather waive LE or Schaller, but such is.

- NewYorkNuck

If they want to keep Sven it seems like an unnecessary risk, when you already have a salty player in Loui who would easily go unclaimed.

This would be the best time to try to sneak Sven through though, when everyone else is making cuts as well.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 30 @ 12:16 PM ET
If they want to keep Sven it seems like an unnecessary risk, when you already have a salty player in Loui who would easily go unclaimed.

This would be the best time to try to sneak Sven through though, when everyone else is making cuts as well.

- NorthNuck


That’s the only reason I could think for the timing... I don’t think they want want to keep him, or they just would keep him up. Maybe they think of it as win-win. He either gets claimed and the whole cap is off the books, or he doesn’t and they can recall him later.

Clearly no takers on trades for him though
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Sep 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
That’s the only reason I could think for the timing... I don’t think they want want to keep him, or they just would keep him up. Maybe they think of it as win-win. He either gets claimed and the whole cap is off the books, or he doesn’t and they can recall him later.

Clearly no takers on trades for him though

- NewYorkNuck

Certainly not what I expected when they said they wouldn't be afraid to waive vets. Guess we'll see how it plays out.
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