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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 25 @ 10:57 AM ET
Well he's been better than Tkachuk so there's that.

3 x 7 is pretty equivalent to 6 x 10 .....Marner got the guarantee and a bit of a premium. But the numbers are a lot closer then most understand.

- The Law

Isn't it closer to 11 than 10 million... Plus it's tied up more money on the short term before the new tv deal kicks in when the cap will presumably rise quite a bit. Point being that it's eating up a larger share of cap space now rather than later when there's more room.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 25 @ 10:57 AM ET
100% what I'm gonna remember him for, now.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Every time I saw him on the ice or hear his name mentioned, I heard a petite giggle off in the back of my mind.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
You mean a Tacueria !
- The Law

Calzones. One of Italy’s finest inventions.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Sep 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
He's already said this put the end to Matthews being the Captain and his eventual exit in 5 years on TSN 1200.
- AdamFrench



Well....

He can't be Captain....he would undoubtedly be named "Captain Underpants"!

He will be the BUTT of many jokes to CRACK us all up for the next several weeks.

So, let's not all be ASSes. Just let the guy play!!!



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
That could quite literally explain the deal.

I'm wondering what the justification is for Marner when Point signed for less. Granted he signed on a short term, but Toronto offered a short term option as well. Why wouldn't the GM just stick to that 3 year term on a similar deal as Point or Tkachook got?

- kaptaan

Well, let's unwrap this burrito:

- Point signed after Marner, so you should really be asking what the justification is for Point after Marner signed for more.
- taxes
- bridge deal vs. long-term
- Greta Thunberg shamed Point into signing for less, to combat global warming.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 25 @ 10:59 AM ET
Calzones. One of Italy’s finest inventions.
- RafiDRW

What's the difference between calzone and panzerotti?
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Well, let's unwrap this burrito:

- Point signed after Marner, so you should really be asking what the justification is for Point after Marner signed for more.
- taxes
- bridge deal vs. long-term
- Greta Thunberg shamed Point into signing for less, to combat global warming.

- Atomic Wedgie

Point only signed a three year deal since Tampa will be under water when it’s over.
SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 10.13.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Well, let's unwrap this burrito:

- Point signed after Marner, so you should really be asking what the justification is for Point after Marner signed for more.
- taxes
- bridge deal vs. long-term
- Greta Thunberg shamed Point into signing for less, to combat global warming.

- Atomic Wedgie


You're such an old, angry, white man...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
We have all done stupid stuff when we were drunk. Apologize and move on.
- bixll


That's why I don't drink.

Also, the bigger issue to me is trying to open the car door. Never cool to try to forcefully open someone's car door while they're in it.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Sep 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
cause nothing like this or worse has ever happened to any NHL player?

Patrick Kane didn't beat up a cab driver?

I'm glad your not surprised of my opinion though, I wouldn't have slept tonight

- Lucas.Neilson



Patty Kane wouldn't beat up your mother.....
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
What's the difference between calzone and panzerotti?
- kaptaan

Calzone is usually a baked, folded over and sealed pizza. Panzerotti is a smaller, turnover-like version that is usually deep fried.

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
You're such an old, angry, white man...
- SofaKingBored

I'm much better. I'm a young, angry, white man.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
You're such an old, angry, white man...
- SofaKingBored

I'm a little less angry at the moment, as I just got back from a fabulous hunting trip in Kenya.

There is nothing more relaxing than shooting elephants, lions and whales from the safety of a helicopter.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
i hear ya.

steve simmons has material for the next 5 years now.

- Tumbleweed


He'll most likely flip flop his opinion, like he always does, if/when Matthews gets named El Capto/Captain Underpants.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Sep 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
Matthews was a stupid 21 year old that did something he shouldn't have done. Unfortunatly Matthews has to realize that being in the public eye he not only has to be squeaky clean but has to appear to be squeaky clean. For posters who thinks its not a big deal how would they react if he did this to their mother, sister, wife or daughter? Dumb kid.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
Calzone is usually a baked, folded over and sealed pizza. Panzerotti is a smaller, turnover-like version that is usually deep fried.
- RafiDRW

In high school, my dermatologist told me if she ever caught me eating a panzerotti, she would kill me.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Sep 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
Just another entitled player thinking they can get away with anything. The Flyer's captain would never do such a thing.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
Patty Kane wouldn't beat up your mother.....
- hawk35

Have you seen Lucas’ mom? She’s a more mean version of the WWE’s Kane. No wonder he won’t attempt it.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
Well, let's unwrap this burrito:

- Point signed after Marner, so you should really be asking what the justification is for Point after Marner signed for more.
- taxes
- bridge deal vs. long-term
- Greta Thunberg shamed Point into signing for less, to combat global warming.

- Atomic Wedgie

1. I think the taxes thing is overdone. Property taxes, county tax, city tax, special district taxes, levies etc etc are big in the USA compared to Canada. Not to mention additional costs for health plans.
2. Justifies some but not all of the difference
3. I'd rather not bring the childrens into it

My point in trying to parse this out is whether Dubas deviated from what the norm would have been for other markets and if Toronto ended up paying like this because of what happened with Nylander and how that was handled.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
You're such an old, angry, white man...
- SofaKingBored



He is, though.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
In high school, my dermatologist told me if she ever caught me eating a panzerotti, she would kill me.
- Atomic Wedgie

I’ve always imagined panzerotti is what Nazis called their motorcycles.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Calzone is usually a baked, folded over and sealed pizza. Panzerotti is a smaller, turnover-like version that is usually deep fried.
- RafiDRW

Thanks, baked versus fried. Good to know.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
I’ve always imagined panzerotti is what Nazis called their motorcycles.
- RafiDRW



I wonder if Prince has a motorcycle...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
1. I think the taxes thing is overdone. Property taxes, county tax, city tax, special district taxes, levies etc etc are big in the USA compared to Canada. Not to mention additional costs for health plans.
2. Justifies some but not all of the difference
3. I'd rather not bring the childrens into it

My point in trying to parse this out is whether Dubas deviated from what the norm would have been for other markets and if Toronto ended up paying like this because of what happened with Nylander and how that was handled.

- kaptaan

Let me help you out here:

The Nylander contract has nothing to do with the Marner contract. I wish it did, because then Marner would have signed for less. The Nylander contract has a cap hit of less than $7 million, with long term. That's actually a pretty good deal for a guy who in his two full seasons on an ELC, scored over 60 points each year. If you would just put down your bottle of Haterade for a moment, you could see this (but, of course, you would never admit it).

Marner is overpaid. He should have come in at $10 million for that length of contract. It's less than $1 million overpaid, but it's overpaid. And yes, part of it is being in Toronto, where the media pressure is stupid.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
Just another entitled player thinking they can get away with anything. The Flyer's captain would never do such a thing.
- Streit2ThePoint


The Flyer's captain has been doing nothing but show his ass every night for the last 5 years
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