Why would Point sign an offersheet to say yes, I'd be willing to move to Columbus or Ottawa in the winter and get taxed to (frank) not playing in thw playoffs, rather than spend all my free money in the sun after I've most likely enjoyed a good playoff run.
- walshyleafsfan

You do know athat pay rate they are taxed 37 % in the good old US of A' so the save what? 15%
Cost of living is higher and if they work here They get a 25% raise because of the exchangne rate.
Not to mention thay have to pay the taxes in a the places they ply their trade.
So the 41 away games are all at a different tax rate.
So are they really saving 15%

Nah, im not that old.

Love what shes doing. Its sad to see grown men attack her verbally.
Shes inspiring and trying to save the planet.
- Fakepartofme

The state of political discourse in general is very disturbing these days. The flagrant use of ad hominem attacks is pretty disgusting... it used to be enough to be able to debate a topic on the merits of opposing arguments... these days people just try to discredit others who don't agree with them by claiming that having an opinion at odds with their own is the result of something they can't control like a disease or mental illness or giant evil conspiracy.

//endrant

It's the trade off. I'm sure TB would have preferred longer term but a bridge makes sense. In 3 years Point is likely their centerpiece and demanding a lot more than it might have cost them today.
- The Law

Ya but who cares. Specially if they win a cup. Even if in 3 years he demands 12m per.
This is still a great deal.

It's the trade off. I'm sure TB would have preferred longer term but a bridge makes sense. In 3 years Point is likely their centerpiece and demanding a lot more than it might have cost them today.
- The Law

But that's where you take a hard line. The Leafs don't seem to have done that with any of their RFA's thus far. Sit Nylander, tell Marner to sign his fecking offer sheet if he wants, but you can tell the fans why you've done so, and tell Matthews you either get 11.6 for 8 years or you get a lot less for 5 years.

The Leafs practically gave Marner and Matthews a blank cheque book, to the point where we cannot have a full roster or a backup goalie of NHL quality.

Just think about that for a second. It's nuts.

Fair.

But I still feel there would have been a bit of strength in telling him to beat it. Marner's hometown team, only one he wants to play for.

Call that bluff.

But still, dubas had to get him signed....
- joel878

Yup, sitting him out wasn't an option in a year when you're thinking you can win it all.

Pure speculation but I think the team also might have told him they'd kick him back those ELC bonus $$ after they changed their tune and gave it to Matthews. If the report was true that Dubas had it on the table in the June offer then I think it was probably agreed long ago that they'd repay him.

I hate Tampa
- AdamFrench

They have a nice looking roster.

The state of political discourse in general is very disturbing these days. The flagrant use of ad hominem attacks is pretty disgusting... it used to be enough to be able to debate a topic on the merits of opposing arguments... these days people just try to discredit others who don't agree with them by claiming that having an opinion at odds with their own is the result of something they can't control like a disease or mental illness or giant evil conspiracy.

//endrant
- TheMussel

*sets up strawMussel*

*Burns*

You do know athat pay rate they are taxed 37 % in the good old US of A' so the save what? 15%
Cost of living is higher and if they work here They get a 25% raise because of the exchangne rate.
Not to mention thay have to pay the taxes in a the places they ply their trade.
So the 41 away games are all at a different tax rate.
So are they really saving 15%
- bobbyisno1

Agreed. I don't think the tax savings is as big as some suggest (although their definitely is a savings)

The state of political discourse in general is very disturbing these days. The flagrant use of ad hominem attacks is pretty disgusting... it used to be enough to be able to debate a topic on the merits of opposing arguments... these days people just try to discredit others who don't agree with them by claiming that having an opinion at odds with their own is the result of something they can't control like a disease or mental illness or giant evil conspiracy.

//endrant
- TheMussel

Sad state of affairs for sure.

Johnsson and Dermott to Buffalo
Ristolainen(.5M retained) and Will Borgen

Ceci and Petan to Winnipeg
Lowry

just spit balling here...
- BorjeFan4Ever

I would think the Leafs want to keep Dermott. JMO

The state of political discourse in general is very disturbing these days. The flagrant use of ad hominem attacks is pretty disgusting... it used to be enough to be able to debate a topic on the merits of opposing arguments... these days people just try to discredit others who don't agree with them by claiming that having an opinion at odds with their own is the result of something they can't control like a disease or mental illness or giant evil conspiracy.

//endrant
- TheMussel

Stopped reading after " The state of political "

But that's where you take a hard line. The Leafs don't seem to have done that with any of their RFA's thus far. Sit Nylander, tell Marner to sign his fecking offer sheet if he wants, but you can tell the fans why you've done so, and tell Matthews you either get 11.6 for 8 years or you get a lot less for 5 years.

The Leafs practically gave Marner and Matthews a blank cheque book, to the point where we cannot have a full roster or a backup goalie of NHL quality.

Just think about that for a second. It's nuts.
- walshyleafsfan

It is, agreed.

You do know athat pay rate they are taxed 37 % in the good old US of A' so the save what? 15%
Cost of living is higher and if they work here They get a 25% raise because of the exchangne rate.
Not to mention thay have to pay the taxes in a the places they ply their trade.
So the 41 away games are all at a different tax rate.
So are they really saving 15%
- bobbyisno1

I'm no accountant but their are a few easy read articles out there that go through the various points you make and conclude that it's about 14% in savings.

Looking at the deals signed by Kucherov, Stamkos and now Point I think it's pretty clear that there's an impact.

Fair.

But I still feel there would have been a bit of strength in telling him to beat it. Marner's hometown team, only one he wants to play for.

Call that bluff.

But still, dubas had to get him signed....
- joel878

Point (frank)ed himself.

Ya but who cares. Specially if they win a cup. Even if in 3 years he demands 12m per.
This is still a great deal.
- Fakepartofme

I didn't say it's bad. It's good for sure. It helps give them room over the next 3 years. Leafs probably could have shaved MM down 2 milly per season if they went for a bridge too. You juggle the pro's and cons I guess.

I hate Tampa
- AdamFrench

You not a fan of Busch Gardens?

Point (frank)ed himself.
- BINGO!

Says the female genitalia who got a hoe at 8.5 for 8 years.

You do know athat pay rate they are taxed 37 % in the good old US of A' so the save what? 15%
Cost of living is higher and if they work here They get a 25% raise because of the exchangne rate.
Not to mention thay have to pay the taxes in a the places they ply their trade.
So the 41 away games are all at a different tax rate.
So are they really saving 15%
- bobbyisno1

Top rate kicks in at a higher $ level and there are many exemptions.

Prices on many goods in Canada have the exchange rate worked into the sticker price. Cap should be an after tax number to be fair but never going to happen with Gary in charge.

The state of political discourse in general is very disturbing these days. The flagrant use of ad hominem attacks is pretty disgusting... it used to be enough to be able to debate a topic on the merits of opposing arguments... these days people just try to discredit others who don't agree with them by claiming that having an opinion at odds with their own is the result of something they can't control like a disease or mental illness or giant evil conspiracy.

//endrant
- TheMussel

Or alcohol....

I'm no accountant but their are a few easy read articles out there that go through the various points you make and conclude that it's about 14% in savings.

Looking at the deals signed by Kucherov, Stamkos and now Point I think it's pretty clear that there's an impact.
- The Law

Include Vasi and Hedman too.

The state of political discourse in general is very disturbing these days. The flagrant use of ad hominem attacks is pretty disgusting... it used to be enough to be able to debate a topic on the merits of opposing arguments... these days people just try to discredit others who don't agree with them by claiming that having an opinion at odds with their own is the result of something they can't control like a disease or mental illness or giant evil conspiracy.

//endrant
- TheMussel

We need a Greta of all issues..

I think we’re going to see a shift, maybe a revolution of sorts. People who openly support racists, climate deniers, sexual predators etc, are all going to pay a heavy price. There’s too much bullpoop now and people see it. We get that capitalism is distructive and doesn’t work for everyone, too many people fall through the cracks. The US pivoted pretty hard left because of the disgusting display of selfishness, and disloyalty to the country from the current regime. It’s no longer acceptable to be an ignorant racist bumhole, people want to get on with a new new way of life. Cleaner, more accepting, and less polarized world.

//endrant.

But that's where you take a hard line. The Leafs don't seem to have done that with any of their RFA's thus far. Sit Nylander, tell Marner to sign his fecking offer sheet if he wants, but you can tell the fans why you've done so, and tell Matthews you either get 11.6 for 8 years or you get a lot less for 5 years.

The Leafs practically gave Marner and Matthews a blank cheque book, to the point where we cannot have a full roster or a backup goalie of NHL quality.

Just think about that for a second. It's nuts.
- walshyleafsfan

True

Says the female genitalia who got a hoe at 8.5 for 8 years.
- AdamFrench

hold up it's only 5

forever a hab

I'm no accountant but their are a few easy read articles out there that go through the various points you make and conclude that it's about 14% in savings.

Looking at the deals signed by Kucherov, Stamkos and now Point I think it's pretty clear that there's an impact.
- The Law

But there's not, cause they could have signed up here for much more.
They could pay 10 million American for there home down there or 10 million Canadian up here saving well ove 2 million, not to mention everything else they buy except for booze and funny smelling cigarettes

Not a bad deal for Tampa with Point.... Despite the term being very short.