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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
I just think Marner and Matthews should have been signed to longer terms for the money. Tavares got $11M for 7 years. Fine to pay Matthews more but could have been 7 or 8 years plus C. Doesn't matter anymore if the brains can muddle through until the Cap goes up.

Kuch's contract is understated by lack of state income taxes on 41 games. Tampa has about $8.4M in cap space and that is with Domingue and Condon partially buried in AHL.

- Leafsandbolts


You can bet Ferris (and all agents) point that out. Kucherov's deal in most other cities is 11 milly per year. It is what it is but FLA gets a 14-15% tax perk and ultimately players care more about net income then gross.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
Bob McKenzie said that Point could sign a bridge deal today. $6.5-$6.9 for 3 years.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Tampa and Boston seem to know what they're doing when it comes to contracts.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
You can bet Ferris (and all agents) point that out. Kucherov's deal in most other cities is 11 milly per year. It is what it is but FLA gets a 14-15% tax perk and ultimately players care more about net income then gross.
- The Law


You are for sure correct, but I don't see how dubas doesn't counter that with two points.

1.) kucherov in Tampa doesnt take anything close to the endorsement income Marner takes in Toronto.

2.) want to save on the taxes, go play in the states.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Bob McKenzie said that Point could sign a bridge deal today. $6.5-$6.9 for 3 years.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Predictable ...Fair.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
Predictable ...Fair.
- The Law

And they can still carry a 23 man roster and have a small amount of cap space to make a move at the TDL.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
You are for sure correct, but I don't see how dubas doesn't counter that with two points.

1.) kucherov in Tampa doesnt take anything close to the endorsement income Marner takes in Toronto.

2.) want to save on the taxes, go play in the states.

- joel878


And if I'm Ferris (for poops n giggles) I point out that Kuch's deal takes him into his mid-30's whereas Dubie is getting MM for his most productive years (22-28).

And I agree Dubie's putting #1 in front of Marner but #2 wasn't a negotiating point.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
its so odd watching grown men get upset or lash out at a young girl trying to help the world.

that skeevy dude who asked out dumping trash in the ocean was gross. she answered his dumb question very well

- senstroll


Climate change improvements are not going to happen with China, USA and India not participating. She gave an excellent speech.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
I smell a trade. The fringe guys should be traded off for young D men that could become useful. Brought up through the farm system. Our forward core is locked in for years. Time to develope the D core in the A.
- bixll


Johnsson and Dermott to Buffalo
Ristolainen(.5M retained) and Will Borgen

Ceci and Petan to Winnipeg
Lowry

just spit balling here...
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
Goddam that Greta Thunberg just laid a beat down at the UN climate summit.
Very impressive young lady

Wow

- Fakepartofme

She’s awesome.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
Andi Pietrello says that Point just signed.

3 years $6.75M.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
Like you?
- AdamFrench

Nah, im not that old.

Love what shes doing. Its sad to see grown men attack her verbally.
Shes inspiring and trying to save the planet.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
You can bet Ferris (and all agents) point that out. Kucherov's deal in most other cities is 11 milly per year. It is what it is but FLA gets a 14-15% tax perk and ultimately players care more about net income then gross.
- The Law


Kucherov's deal for 8 years after a bridge contract.

Texas and Tennessee have no state income tax too
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
Andy Pietrello says that Point just signed.

3 years $6.75M.

- GreatGigInTheSky

I hate Tampa
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
And they can still carry a 23 man roster and have a small amount of cap space to make a move at the TDL.
- walshyleafsfan


It's the trade off. I'm sure TB would have preferred longer term but a bridge makes sense. In 3 years Point is likely their centerpiece and demanding a lot more than it might have cost them today.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
Tampa and Boston seem to know what they're doing when it comes to contracts.
- walshyleafsfan



they do... but they benefit from not having the "insiders" at TSN in their backyard, helping with contract negotiations and spoon feeding the new stars.

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
I hate Tampa
- AdamFrench


taxes?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
I hate Tampa
- AdamFrench


Yeah, they're making it very easy to hate them.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
She’s awesome.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Yup.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
taxes?
- senstroll

And big Richards.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
Andy Pietrello says that Point just signed.

3 years $6.75M.

- GreatGigInTheSky

Quality gm'n there.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:53 PM ET
Kucherov's deal for 8 years after a bridge contract.

Texas and Tennessee have no state income tax too

- Leafsandbolts


Yup and Nevada. Stone at 9.5 was likely impacted by no state taxes too.
CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.22.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:54 PM ET
Quality gm'n there.
- Fakepartofme


and marner wanted 10 mill per for 3 year bridge lol
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:54 PM ET
And if I'm Ferris (for poops n giggles) I point out that Kuch's deal takes him into his mid-30's whereas Dubie is getting MM for his most productive years (22-28).

And I agree Dubie's putting #1 in front of Marner but #2 wasn't a negotiating point.

- The Law


Fair.

But I still feel there would have been a bit of strength in telling him to beat it. Marner's hometown team, only one he wants to play for.

Call that bluff.

But still, dubas had to get him signed....
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:54 PM ET
People are making the state taxes a way bigger deal then it is. Marner getting paid US dollars while living and playing in Canada is more of an advantage.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 23 @ 12:55 PM ET
People are making the state taxes a way bigger deal then it is. Marner getting paid US dollars while living and playing in Canada is more of an advantage.
- ClarksonDavid

Dubaz iz a puzzsay
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