I refuse to go into any pool where you have to do work past the draft.

It just rewards nerds who have nothing better to do than tinker with their lineup.
- Atomic Wedgie

Tinkering with lineups is the whole point.

I refuse to go into any pool where you have to do work past the draft.

It just rewards nerds who have nothing better to do than tinker with their lineup.
- Atomic Wedgie

Lucas usually does quite well.

Agostino would be a decent 4th line guy, IMO.

All he has to do is beat out the goat
- PatC80

I think Spezza's in. So I'm sort of thinking you have Kap-Tavares-Marner, Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander, Mikheyev-Kerfoot-???, Moore-Spezza-??? (where Spezza could be a winger). To me that's two openings until Hyman returns, isn't it?

The experienced combatants are: Shore, Petan, Agostino, Gauthier, Aberg, Read

Guys I'd have written off by now: Gaudet, Wilson, Brooks, Bracco, Engvall, Timashov and Korshkov

If Gauthier / Spezza are 4th line guys propped up by Moore's speed, that basically leaves one spot: the 3rd Line RW or 4th line LW (if Moore is deservedly promoted)?

So far, out of that group, I like Agostino. I wanted to like Shore because he has PK experience, but in 2 games, I haven't been overly impressed.

I think the Goat is (at least) in dark pencil now.

Basically all these guys (shore/agostino/petan/etc ...) are battling for a 12 game look-see.
- The Law

I should learn to be as succinct as you!

I should learn to be as succinct as you!
- Monkeypunk

There's a word you don't often see on Hockeybuzz...

I think that's better for him. But I do think he'll get a few games with the Leafs this season.

Because Rielly and Barrie are both ahead of him for power play ice time, and the power play is where he'd mostly succeed right now.

Since it'd be a 3rd pairing spot available, give some games to Liljegren because he's better defensively. That's how I see it anyways.

Rielly - Ceci

Muzzin - Barrie

Kivihalme- Liljegren

Once Dermott's back, send Liljegren back to the Marlies.


- GreatGigInTheSky

If Sandin is better overall right now (and I think he is), he comes up before Sandin and becomes Babs’ new Morgan Rielly project. Remember Rielly as a 19 year old with sheltered minutes and more time on the PK than the PP.

The hope for cap reasons has to be that both Sandin and Liljegren are on the club by next year. It’s probably too much to bring them both up now, so Sandin this year and they’ll see where Liljegren is by next year.

I think Spezza's in. So I'm sort of thinking you have Kap-Tavares-Marner, Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander, Mikheyev-Kerfoot-???, Moore-Spezza-??? (where Spezza could be a winger). To me that's two openings until Hyman returns, isn't it?

The experienced combatants are: Shore, Petan, Agostino, Gauthier, Aberg, Read

Guys I'd have written off by now: Gaudet, Wilson, Brooks, Bracco, Engvall, Timashov and Korshkov

If Gauthier / Spezza are 4th line guys propped up by Moore's speed, that basically leaves one spot: the 3rd Line RW or 4th line LW (if Moore is deservedly promoted)?

So far, out of that group, I like Agostino. I wanted to like Shore because he has PK experience, but in 2 games, I haven't been overly impressed.
- Monkeypunk

Yeah, that does make sense..
Have to think it will be about 8 guys playing for at most 2 spots. So far, I've been impressed by Mikheyev and Ceci.. I was also hoping for more from Shore.

Yeah, that does make sense..
Have to think it will be about 8 guys playing for at most 2 spots. So far, I've been impressed by Mikheyev and Ceci.. I was also hoping for more from Shore.
- PatC80

I think Mikheyev has Ozhiganov to thank for his success.

Because Ozhiganov was so underwhelming, I wasn't expecting much out of Mikheyev, but he's surpassed that low bar very well!

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how much did we overpay for Mitch Marner?

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how much did we overpay for Mitch Marner?
- PatC80

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how much did we overpay for Mitch Marner?
- PatC80

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how long till he fires his agent.

I think Mikheyev has Ozhiganov to thank for his success.

Because Ozhiganov was so underwhelming, I wasn't expecting much out of Mikheyev, but he's surpassed that low bar very well!
- Monkeypunk

The Wizard of Oz has given me a lot of love through the TSN 1200 crew using him getting walked by Chabot as a reason he deserves 8mil.

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how much did we overpay for Mitch Marner?
- PatC80

Probably overpaid Matthews and Marner about $2M / season when you consider term, taxes and Toronto

- SofaKingBored

Double

There's a word you don't often see on Hockeybuzz...
- SofaKingBored

..and never applied to me. I'm usually one big run on sentence.

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how long till he fires his agent.
- Canada Cup

for a bridge deal? Probably keeps his agent until the 3 yr deal is up.

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how much did we overpay for Mitch Marner?
- PatC80

Think the question should be how underpaid is point.

Both have to be worth 7-8 on a 3 year deal. 6 years including a couple UFA years should be around 9.5-10

Probably overpaid Matthews and Marner about $2M / season when you consider term, taxes and Toronto
- Leafsandbolts

Matthews contract, I'm ok with.. I wish it was more than 5 years, but it is, what it is.. I think Marner should have gotten less $$ than Kucherov.

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how much did we overpay for Mitch Marner?
- PatC80

Marner was overpaid by $3-$4 million....

2 years in the league , totally benefitted playing with Tavares , had no business getting almost $11 million this early in his career.....

Dubas got fleeced... only question is how badly...

Pastrnak $6.6 million

Kucherov $9.5 million

thats just a couple....

enough said.....

I think we are complaining because tonight's roster means Marincin will be on the active roster on opening night..
Read between the lines... With no Marincin tonight, it means there will be a Marincin on opening night.
- PatC80

Matthews contract, I'm ok with.. I wish it was more than 5 years, but it is, what it is.. I think Marner should have gotten less $$ than Kucherov.
- PatC80

Yeah, I'd agree with you on that, too.

I mean. I think both were probably $1m too much.

Like when I think, "Matthews at $10.6 x 5", I think that's a pretty decent deal.

When I think "Marner at 9.9 x 6", I still think that feels a bit high - and it's probably because of the Kucherov deal.

If Brayden Point signs the 3 yr deal for $5.66M annually, how much did we overpay for Mitch Marner?
- PatC80

We overpaid Matthews and Marner a poop ton.

Nylander is the only one who actually makes close to what he should do.

Neuvirth not playing tonight?


Kristen Shilton
@kristen_shilton
#Leafs lines for game group in Montreal:

Petan-Shore-Agostino
Korshkov-Gaudet-Read
Archibald-Brooks-Bracco
Engvall-Elynuik-Aberg

Harpur-Holl
Gravel-Schmaltz
Rubins-Liljegren
Hollowell-Lindgren

Hutchinson
Indeterminate goalie
Neuvirth is absent
- Leafsandbolts

LOLOL Habs 12 - 1

Matthews contract, I'm ok with.. I wish it was more than 5 years, but it is, what it is.. I think Marner should have gotten less $$ than Kucherov.
- PatC80

I just think Marner and Matthews should have been signed to longer terms for the money. Tavares got $11M for 7 years. Fine to pay Matthews more but could have been 7 or 8 years plus C. Doesn't matter anymore if the brains can muddle through until the Cap goes up.

Kuch's contract is understated by lack of state income taxes on 41 games. Tampa has about $8.4M in cap space and that is with Domingue and Condon partially buried in AHL.

Goddam that Greta Thunberg just laid a beat down at the UN climate summit.
Very impressive young lady

Wow