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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:31 PM ET
This is REALLY troubling IMO... we're in for another year of Matthews trying to produce playing 16min a night and Aberg on the ice down 1 goal with a minute left, aren't we...
- markmark

Marincin is a gud pro.

Focuses on doing the little things right.

Takes it one shift...


Oh frank, we are doomed.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:31 PM ET
Edmonton?

Should be a guaranteed win, plus you get to watch McJesus.

- GreatGigInTheSky


I considered that but it's not a Saturday game or against a rival.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
I never said that at all. I said they overpaid all three, making it hard ion the cap now and going forward.

Even if the cap goes up and those guys cash in it's about cap %, and we have no idea what those teams and players will settle on. Doesn't change the fact the Dubas overpaid. You are trying to justify his over-payments by saying in this amount of time this is 'likely' to happen. They are up against it now and have 1 d man for next year.

I also never said the last 3 seasons. The only numbers from Point I brought up were last years. Stop making stuff up.

- aminnes

They have 4 defense for next season Lijgren Dermott, Rielly and Sandin.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
Nobody wants the Frontenac curse.
- AdamFrench


I'd gladly take a gamble on one in a few years.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:36 PM ET
About 20 years ago, me and Mrs. Wedgie went down to visit her parents, who had rented a place in John's Pass/Madeira Beach.

I still remember drinking some beers on the patio at a bar called Gator's, and watching dolphins play in the channel. It was so franking surreal - good times.

- Atomic Wedgie


Every summer and March break for me Wedgie. Family lives in Florida and I have been to Gator's many times and John's pass. We stay only about 1 block south of there.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 23 @ 4:36 PM ET
Well aware. But Bobby's making the point that those dollars earned in US are spent in US (in the US) but spent in Cdn (in Canada) ...meaning players get better bang for their buck up here and shouldn't female dog n moan about high taxes.

Problem is as LeafBoltsy pointed out the cost of most things up here has already been converted and as I pointed out the cost of living in Toronto is (frank)ing nuts relative to most US cities.

Advantage to the no-state-tax states. It is what it is.

Leafs have endorsement $, health care and gun laws ....

- The Law


Except we pay more for almost everything we buy in Canada....in USA you can drive a high end BMW for about $300/mth....in Canada it's about $1300 mth.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:38 PM ET
I never said that at all. I said they overpaid all three, making it hard ion the cap now and going forward.

Even if the cap goes up and those guys cash in it's about cap %, and we have no idea what those teams and players will settle on. Doesn't change the fact the Dubas overpaid. You are trying to justify his over-payments by saying in this amount of time this is 'likely' to happen. They are up against it now and have 1 d man for next year.

I also never said the last 3 seasons. The only numbers from Point I brought up were last years. Stop making stuff up.

- aminnes


Marner is overpaid.

Matthews and Nylander aren’t.

But regardless you are whining saying these RFA’s are taking discounts on 3 year deals and how the Leafs should of done the same....

They shouldn’t of and didn’t. Good on them for not giving into the players. Point can now wait until the likelihood of the cap surge from the TV deal.

If not? The cap will still go up and he gets a minimum of 10 million(if he keeps up 40 goal seasons it will be a (frank) ton mote than that) for 1 year and can walk into UFA the next year.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
Every summer and March break for me Wedgie. Family lives in Florida and I have been to Gator's many times and John's pass. We stay only about 1 block south of there.
- Aetherial

Johns Pass, is that the palace with th shops and bars and the draw bridge?
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:40 PM ET
new blog everyone
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:42 PM ET
Marner is overpaid.

Matthews and Nylander aren’t.

But regardless you are whining saying these RFA’s are taking discounts on 3 year deals and how the Leafs should of done the same....

They shouldn’t of and didn’t. Good on them for not giving into the players. Point can now wait until the likelihood of the cap surge from the TV deal.

If not? The cap will still go up and he gets a minimum of 10 million(if he keeps up 40 goal seasons it will be a (frank) ton mote than that) for 1 year and can walk into UFA the next year.

- Santo_44


False.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:43 PM ET
Except we pay more for almost everything we buy in Canada....in USA you can drive a high end BMW for about $300/mth....in Canada it's about $1300 mth.
- Garnie

A high end BMWin the States runs from 112 thou to 148 thou, show me how you can drive that for 300 a month.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Sep 23 @ 4:44 PM ET
They have 4 defense for next season Lijgren Dermott, Rielly and Sandin.
- bobbyisno1


Ya technically not 1. 3 guys signed at the moment assuming Sad and Lil are ready.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:45 PM ET
No hometown discount? Fine...

But a hometown fleecing? Damn...

- SofaKingBored


Dubas clearly got bent over.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Sep 23 @ 4:47 PM ET
Marner is overpaid.

Matthews and Nylander aren’t.

But regardless you are whining saying these RFA’s are taking discounts on 3 year deals and how the Leafs should of done the same....

They shouldn’t of and didn’t. Good on them for not giving into the players. Point can now wait until the likelihood of the cap surge from the TV deal.

If not? The cap will still go up and he gets a minimum of 10 million(if he keeps up 40 goal seasons it will be a (frank) ton mote than that) for 1 year and can walk into UFA the next year.

- Santo_44


Could be. But either way, havign these massive cap hits is hurting the Leafs from icing a cup winning team. Their depth is bad. Bottom 2 lines are weak and the defense is offense first. I will happily eat crow at years end if this group makes it passed the first riound.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:47 PM ET
Except we pay more for almost everything we buy in Canada....in USA you can drive a high end BMW for about $300/mth....in Canada it's about $1300 mth.
- Garnie

Most exspesive I can find in Canada is 177 thou so after the exchange rate, pretty damn close.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:50 PM ET
I take no joy in saying this, but I disagree. The left's message just isn't resonating outside of their traditional strongholds.

The 50 year old white straight male in middle America has lost his job, and he's really franking angry about it, and all he hears from the left is that guys like him have ruined America. All he ever did was work hard at the factory, pay his taxes and mortgage, go to church on Sundays and support his community. And the left is calling him an arsehole.

Bill Maher is right - it's not the time to be promising a revolution.

Shift to the middle, allow the guy mentioned above to vote for your platform, and avert the franking crisis that another 4 years of Trump would be.

//endrant

- Atomic Wedgie

Maher is right when he says everyone on the left is so particular, and they don’t galvanize around a common issue. I think a lot of those 50 something white dudes are going to get sick of their kids and grandkids saying the same things in saying. Something’s shifted imo... It’s happening fast, young people don’t care about your hard-workin’ merican boomer story when it’s interwoven with the destruction of the environment. Millenials are the largest voting house group, and they’re going to turn up in larger number each election.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:52 PM ET
This is the best Leafs team in decades, yet all I ever read is complaining.


Championships are for closers only. You people aren’t closers, you’re losers. Why does closer and loser not rhyme? Because Kyle (frank)ing Dubas. Kiss my ass. I’m joining a fan base that never complains, that always cheers on their team, that has the best Centre/Captain/Coach/GM in the modern era. Oh, and you bet I’m buying some matching jorts. GO SABRES.

- Steven_Seagull

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:54 PM ET
Johns Pass, is that the palace with th shops and bars and the draw bridge?
- bobbyisno1


yes
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
A high end BMWin the States runs from 112 thou to 148 thou, show me how you can drive that for 300 a month.
- bobbyisno1


I may have exaggerated a little, but you see those ads for some nice cars and I almost pay the same amount for a Honda Civic.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
yes
- Aetherial

Been there also.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:59 PM ET
I may have exaggerated a little, but you see those ads for some nice cars and I almost pay the same amount for a Honda Civic.
- Garnie

Yes, and probably said weekly.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 23 @ 5:05 PM ET
Yes, and probably said weekly.
- bobbyisno1


booze, cigs, housing for the most part....lots is cheaper american....food.



I guess not by too much, depending what the $ is at......


ok.....i lose.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 23 @ 5:15 PM ET
Hall of Whores?
- Steven_Seagull


Yes.









bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 23 @ 5:18 PM ET
booze, cigs, housing for the most part....lots is cheaper american....food.



I guess not by too much, depending what the $ is at......


ok.....i lose.

- Garnie

Cigs and booze at the grocery store, but i no smoke no more and the beer just doesn't add up.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
Could be. But either way, havign these massive cap hits is hurting the Leafs from icing a cup winning team. Their depth is bad. Bottom 2 lines are weak and the defense is offense first. I will happily eat crow at years end if this group makes it passed the first riound.
- aminnes

Their depth is bad?

I disagree. Dubas has shown the ability to sign College and Europe FA’s and turn them into something cheap.

There is a price to pay for players of Matthews/Marner caliber.

Marner’s stings a little, but I’m willing to wait to see if he can prove me wrong on how good he is.

Having Matthews and Marner ask for 15 million dollar deals in 3 years would hurt the leafs a lot more. Considering who is up for new deals.
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