I’m not taking expansion fees I’m talking revenue.
- Santo_44

If they make $64 million more in revenues than the average, it will raise the cap by $1 million.

Come on man, when you are paying for a longer term you pay for what that player is projected to be.

The top goal scorer in the past 3 years at age 19/20/21 deserves some high trajectory’s for years 22/23/24/25/26. It’s not up for debate.
- Santo_44

Sure. If he stays healthy he will produce. So will Point. He's 23.

I believe the expansion fee is counted in HRR
- senstroll

Nope.

Owners keep it all themselves.

That’s funny, all these RFA’s and agents signing highly disagree with you on that point.

Or is it just a coincidence players are signing 3 year deals all of a sudden?
- Santo_44

What's going to make it go up?

Maybe they want to win, and to make it work for them now and long term they are signing bridge deals.

If they make $64 million more in revenues than the average, it will raise the cap by $1 million.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yep, I add that on top of the TV deal.

All these RFA’s are signing for 3 years for a reason. They are guaranteed a large pay day and the same poop happens in 3 years as it did this offseason.

The difference? The players have a lot more leverage this time around. Or they can choose to arbitrate and walk into UFA and gain all the leverage.

What's going to make it go up?

Maybe they want to win, and to make it work for them now and long term they are signing bridge deals.
- aminnes

You are very optimistic of your pessimism.

Nope.

Owners keep it all themselves.
- Atomic Wedgie

oh right. Greedy owners get it all

When AM does this. When the cap surges (it won't). When that, blah blah blah....

By the way, the NBC ratings peaked in 2013. They have been at their lowest th last to yeas. Barely over 300,000. The TV deal will be very similar to what it is now.

15 million! Maybe with Dubas negotiating. Leafs got fleeced. By all three of them.
- aminnes

https://www.forbes.com/si...y-is-coming/#170247344e44

This is the best Leafs team in decades, yet all I ever read is complaining.


Championships are for closers only. You people aren’t closers, you’re losers. Why does closer and loser not rhyme? Because Kyle (frank)ing Dubas. Kiss my ass. I’m joining a fan base that never complains, that always cheers on their team, that has the best Centre/Captain/Coach/GM in the modern era. Oh, and you bet I’m buying some matching jorts. GO SABRES.

You are very optimistic of your pessimism.
- Santo_44

What we do know is bridge deals historically have always meant a lower cap hit. It helps a contending team with the cap but also gives the player a chance to cash in on the next one, while leaving 3 years of planning for the team. The clubs are offering them, so it's not like it's just the player that sees the bridge deal as a way to make things work.

[quote=Steven_SeagullThis is the best Leafs team in decades, yet all I ever read is complaining.


Championships are for closers only. You people aren’t closers, you’re losers. Why does closer and loser not rhyme? Because Kyle (frank)ing Dubas. Kiss my ass. I’m joining a fan base that never complains, that always cheers on their team, that has the best Centre/Captain/Coach/GM in the modern era. Oh, and you bet I’m buying some matching jorts. GO SABRES.

Disagree that this is the best team in decades.

https://www.forbes.com/si...y-is-coming/#170247344e44
- The Shrike

(frank) facts

Yep, I add that on top of the TV deal.

All these RFA’s are signing for 3 years for a reason. They are guaranteed a large pay day and the same poop happens in 3 years as it did this offseason.

The difference? The players have a lot more leverage this time around. Or they can choose to arbitrate and walk into UFA and gain all the leverage.
- Santo_44

I think the bolded above is (by far) the biggest factor.

Want to play hardball with me? Nope. Give me a killer deal, or I'll happily make $9 million for one year, and skate to UFA status when I'm 25 years old.

Not a bad way to go.

Dissagree.
- aminnes

Flagged.

Obligatory death threat.

Nice alliteration

Disagree
- aminnes

So the jorts don't have to be matching?

I've been to every home opener (except one) for the past 20+ years. There's something special about it. You have to be in your seats at least 30 minutes early - it starts with the 78th Highlanders walking across the ice (place a bet with your friend as to whether or not someone falls).

Then they will do a franking fantastic light show on the ice.

The crowd gets pumped. And then as long as Toskala doesn't let in a weak wrister in the opening minute of the game, the buzz stays.

Don't worry about the back-to-backs against Montreal - it's the crowd that makes the game. So many ex-Montrealers who moved to Toronto in the 1970s and kept their allegiance (I can't blame them). Leafs vs. Montreal is special - it's better than any other team in the building.

The Friday vs. Boston might be a good one. It's the Hall of Fame Game, which I always find to be a little boring. For an incredibly stupid reason, they always do it the same weekend as Remembrance Day, so they have two ceremonies beforehand, which I always thought was disrespectful. It looks like this year the Hall of Fame game is November 15th, so I'm assuming they will no longer coincide.

Fridays can be a rowdy crowd - not a lot of kids, as suits sneak out early, have a few cocktails and then hit the game.

Nov 30 vs. Buffalo looks good - 2nd game of home-at-home.

December 28th Rangers will be all screaming kids.

Last game of the season is always a gamble. Maybe the Thursday before vs. Detroit.
- Atomic Wedgie

Very helpful, thank you.

You play SimCity 2000 yet?

So the jorts don't have to be matching?
- Atomic Wedgie

I don't know what a jort is lol

oh right. Greedy owners get it all
- senstroll

It would actually frank the league - the cap would jump by $10 million for one year and then go down again.

Although damn, that would be fun to watch.

What we do know is bridge deals historically have always meant a lower cap hit. It helps a contending team with the cap but also gives the player a chance to cash in on the next one, while leaving 3 years of planning for the team. The clubs are offering them, so it's not like it's just the player that sees the bridge deal as a way to make things work.
- aminnes

Of course, you get 2-3 years of cheaper salary. Then you get a more expensive salary after that.

Not considering this years UFAs
After 3 years the Leafs have Rielly, Andersen, Kap Sandin/Liljegren to resign.

Considering the TV deal and yes, there is a real possibility this surges the cap. Why the (frank) else would every agent be pushing 3 year deals?

So you want Matthews to be asking for 15+ million when above players contracts are up? Why? Why is it more important for the leafs to save pennies when Dermott/Barrie are the only players needing new deals?

Should of they just said (frank) Rielly, Kapanen, Sandin, Liljegren, Andersen?

I don't know what a jort is lol
- aminnes

Don't hate me - you asked.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...NER/Jacked-Eichel/6/78544

I think the bolded above is (by far) the biggest factor.

Want to play hardball with me? Nope. Give me a killer deal, or I'll happily make $9 million for one year, and skate to UFA status when I'm 25 years old.

Not a bad way to go.
- Atomic Wedgie

Anime has a point that bridge deals help a team NOW.

But if you think it was bad now, wait until the next wave of players become FA’s. Which is in 3 years.

Of course, you get 2-3 years of cheaper salary. Then you get a more expensive salary after that.

Not considering this years UFAs
After 3 years the Leafs have Rielly, Andersen, Kap Sandin/Liljegren to resign.

Considering the TV deal and yes, there is a real possibility this surges the cap. Why the (frank) else would every agent be pushing 3 year deals?

So you want Matthews to be asking for 15+ million when above players contracts are up? Why? Why is it more important for the leafs to save pennies when Dermott/Barrie are the only players needing new deals?

Should of they just said (frank) Rielly, Kapanen, Sandin, Liljegren, Andersen?
- Santo_44

Everything your saying is anecdotle and what-ifs. 15 million? Again, that's made up.

Good Lord, have you seen tonight's line-up?

Cut day is tomorrow. Enjoy your last night with the big club, boys.


- Atomic Wedgie

definitely not worth watching this one unless you're hungry for some ahl hockey

Anime has a point that bridge deals help a team NOW.

But if you think it was bad now, wait until the next wave of players become FA’s. Which is in 3 years.
- Santo_44

Signing them all is still going to be a nightmare though. Unless the cap 'surges' to like, 100 million - which isn't happening.

Don't hate me - you asked.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...NER/Jacked-Eichel/6/78544
- Atomic Wedgie