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daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
I think it would be next to impossible to get him through waivers. Former 1st round pick with a minimal cap hit. I can see plenty of teams taking a chance on that.
- MBFlyerfan

What team will give him a shot in a top 6 role at this juncture ?
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
You have to think MTL would at least give Morin a chance. If we wanted to keep Morin, what’s the option? Trade Hägg and have him as a 7th?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
What team will give him a shot in a top 6 role at this juncture ?
- daryl stanley

Edmonton.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
He's had seasons of 36, 44, and 30 goals. I think the odds are more in favor of regression than reaching full potential. Whatever that is. In my opinion this is simply not the kind of player that you give up the assets it will take to acquire him and pay him for.
- MJL

What assets will it take to acquire him? No one knows. Crap I bet you wouldn’t include Hägg for him
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
Edmonton.
- ClaudeFather

Why do you say that?
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
What team will give him a shot in a top 6 role at this juncture ?
- daryl stanley


If a team claimed him, I think they could just assign him directly to their affiliate. Actually, even if the Flyers really still liked Morin, it still may behoove them to let him go to another team. Unless he plays 70 more NHL games before his contract runs out next year, he becomes a group 6 UFA.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
Why do you say that?
- daryl stanley

I guess he could supplant Bouchard if they don’t think he’s NHL ready at the moment. Maybe.

I was thinkin Ottawa, but they seem to like Brannstrom, and he might get the call.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
What team will give him a shot in a top 6 role at this juncture ?
- daryl stanley



At this juncture?

Winnipeg
Edmonton
Los Angeles (who I think would be the team who grabs him with Hextall there)
to name a few.

And he doesn't need to be a top 6. He can be a 7.

Either way, at that cap hit he would be a nice, low risk addition.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 23 @ 11:33 AM ET
If a team claimed him, I think they could just assign him directly to their affiliate. Actually, even if the Flyers really still liked Morin, it still may behoove them to let him go to another team. Unless he plays 70 more NHL games before his contract runs out next year, he becomes a group 6 UFA.
- 2sticks1puck




He would have to pass through Waivers again before he could be sent down.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:35 AM ET
If a team claimed him, I think they could just assign him directly to their affiliate. Actually, even if the Flyers really still liked Morin, it still may behoove them to let him go to another team. Unless he plays 70 more NHL games before his contract runs out next year, he becomes a group 6 UFA.
- 2sticks1puck

Pretty sure if you claim a player off waivers you can't send them to your affiliate. The whole point is to keep the player in the NHL.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
I guess he could supplant Bouchard if they don’t think he’s NHL ready at the moment. Maybe.

I was thinkin Ottawa, but they seem to like Brannstrom, and he might get the call.

- Hesh_

You also have to assume morin is nhl ready

I just don’t think it is this slam dunk he is claimed. Other 1st rd dman who no one thought would pass waivers have
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
If a team claimed him, I think they could just assign him directly to their affiliate. Actually, even if the Flyers really still liked Morin, it still may behoove them to let him go to another team. Unless he plays 70 more NHL games before his contract runs out next year, he becomes a group 6 UFA.
- 2sticks1puck



The team claiming him would have to keep him on their NHL roster or offer to return the player to the team he was claimed from or put him through waivers again if they want to assign him to the AHL.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:40 AM ET
He would have to pass through Waivers again before he could be sent down.
- MBFlyerfan


I can't find anything specific on cap friendly that addresses it. It just says that a team can claim the rights and that a player doesn't have to go through waivers twice within a 30 day period. I can't find anything about claiming teams.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:41 AM ET
At this juncture?

Winnipeg
Edmonton
Los Angeles (who I think would be the team who grabs him with Hextall there)
to name a few.

And he doesn't need to be a top 6. He can be a 7.

Either way, at that cap hit he would be a nice, low risk addition.

- MBFlyerfan

Yes at this juncture. Why would a team claim him and not play him? Defeats the purpose imo as many have a Sam morin level player of their own
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 23 @ 11:41 AM ET
Yes at this juncture. Why would a team claim him and not play him? Defeats the purpose imo as many have a Sam morin level player of their own
- daryl stanley

I don't think you've looked at Edmonton's D-core.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:44 AM ET
I don't think you've looked at Edmonton's D-core.
- ClaudeFather

I have. Morin doesn’t move the needle one bit
They have their own in house guys. Unless they think he is a significant upgrade don’t see them claiming him
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 23 @ 11:46 AM ET
Pretty sure if you claim a player off waivers you can't send them to your affiliate. The whole point is to keep the player in the NHL.
- FlyersGrace


Yes, you'd have to waive him again to reassign him.

There's no evidence to suggest that Morin's even capable of being a 7th dman yet, so a team would need to be willing to develop him at the NHL level to make the claim.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
Yes, you'd have to waive him again to reassign him.

There's no evidence to suggest that Morin's even capable of being a 7th dman yet, so a team would need to be willing to develop him at the NHL level to make the claim.

- Tomahawk

I agree and all about timing. Last roster cut best time to sneak someone through waivers
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
I have. Morin doesn’t move the needle one bit
They have their own in house guys. Unless they think he is a significant upgrade don’t see them claiming him

- daryl stanley

I think you are overlooking 2 things. The first is how many teams have comparable players who are waiver exempt? Waive the guy who is exempt for a bit more time in the AHL and increase your D depth... The second is injuries. You can never have enough D.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
I have. Morin doesn’t move the needle one bit
They have their own in house guys. Unless they think he is a significant upgrade don’t see them claiming him

- daryl stanley

Nice.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
So they give detailed injury info on Frost but Patrick’s condition is a state secret.

Um, ok
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 23 @ 11:52 AM ET
I think you are overlooking 2 things. The first is how many teams have comparable players who are waiver exempt? Waive the guy who is exempt for a bit more time in the AHL and increase your D depth... The second is injuries. You can never have enough D.
- FlyersGrace

I am not overlooking anything.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
So they give detailed injury info on Frost but Patrick’s condition is a state secret.

Um, ok

- BiggE


He's been quarantined by the CDC (E3)
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
Frost out a week...basically ends his chances for a roster spot
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:05 PM ET
Frost out a week...basically ends his chances for a roster spot
- bulet13


Routine leg amputation. Day to day.
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