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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:34 AM ET
I love that five years later people are still misinterpreting why he said that.
- LeftCoaster

What’s new chubs ?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
The argument will be that he has been traded twice already in his career.



But Pearson's cool, because it just wasn't the right fit.

- 1970vintage

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
Sportsnet 650

@Sportsnet650


"Goldobin and Virtanen I know they have talked with. They are not happy with either player right now."

@CoreyHirsch
with some thoughts on a few forwards.

Listen: player.sportsnet650.ca
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
Sportsnet 650

@Sportsnet650


"Goldobin and Virtanen I know they have talked with. They are not happy with either player right now."

@CoreyHirsch
with some thoughts on a few forwards.

Listen: player.sportsnet650.ca

- manvanfan

And nor should they. Green (the smug d!ck that he is) was right in saying other players should take note of Gaudette "trying to make the team".

I look forward to the tsunami of tears when 1 or both are sent to Utica or traded for a 4th.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:54 AM ET
Sportsnet 650

@Sportsnet650


"Goldobin and Virtanen I know they have talked with. They are not happy with either player right now."

@CoreyHirsch
with some thoughts on a few forwards.

Listen: player.sportsnet650.ca

- manvanfan



It has to come to a head at some point. Goldy will get picked up on waivers. Not sure what JV is worth.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Sep 23 @ 11:59 AM ET
It has to come to a head at some point. Goldy will get picked up on waivers. Not sure what JV is worth.
- VanHockeyGuy


I think they are OK with losing Goldy, JV = no way they let him go on waivers.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
And nor should they. Green (the smug d!ck that he is) was right in saying other players should take note of Gaudette "trying to make the team".

I look forward to the tsunami of tears when 1 or both are sent to Utica or traded for a 4th.

- Marwood


Seen much worse players with much worse results over the course of seasons gets way more chances than these two.

At this point to me, it seems like a broken relationship, TG using these two as "examples" in the wrong ways and i'd be asking for a trade.

Al Arbour coaching style doesn't work the same on everyone.

Gaudette "trying" in pre season doesn't equal regular season results.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:05 PM ET
I think they are OK with losing Goldy, JV = no way they let him go on waivers.
- canucksfan1944


JB will probably get low balled big time on Jake.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
It has to come to a head at some point. Goldy will get picked up on waivers. Not sure what JV is worth.
- VanHockeyGuy

Package them together to a team that could use bodies/better depth
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
It has to come to a head at some point. Goldy will get picked up on waivers. Not sure what JV is worth.
- VanHockeyGuy


really tough to say what hes worth bcuz as much as ppl want to say that he can just be a good forechecker/hitter if he doesnt score - he doesnt even do that consistently enough either. nor is he a special teams guy. hes giving me kassian vibes more and more these days
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:10 PM ET
Seen much worse players with much worse results over the course of seasons gets way more chances than these two.

At this point to me, it seems like a broken relationship, TG using these two as "examples" in the wrong ways and i'd be asking for a trade.

Al Arbour coaching style doesn't work the same on everyone.

Gaudette "trying" in pre season doesn't equal regular season results.

- manvanfan



Green is using the press as a tool, I think he's trying to get under JV's skin.

They have a history from Utica. The difference today is Miller/Ferland will take minutes from him. I can see JV in the press box (again) if things don't change fast.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:10 PM ET
really tough to say what hes worth bcuz as much as ppl want to say that he can just be a good forechecker/hitter if he doesnt score - he doesnt even do that consistently enough either. nor is he a special teams guy. hes giving me kassian vibes more and more these days
- johnnykarate


Yes indeed.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 23 @ 12:13 PM ET
Package them together to a team that could use bodies/better depth
- manvanfan


id be fine with poolparty. van has a logjam of 1 way deals right now anyway so sending 2 out for 1 helps in that regard
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Yes indeed.
- VanHockeyGuy


i was thinking the other day that hes like hansen without the smarts or torres without the physicality, but settled on a faster kassian
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
id be fine with poolparty. van has a logjam of 1 way deals right now anyway so sending 2 out for 1 helps in that regard
- johnnykarate

Poolparty pretty much did the exact same thing with the last two coaches in Edmonton as JV is doing with TG. Now he's in Europe.

It's basically trading Gagner for Spooner.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:20 PM ET
setting a career high in goals (19) and points (35) last year are heading in the wrong direction? a 20 goal/40 points is the dream season for jake
- johnnykarate

meh...JV would score 20 if used properly

Anyone's #'s would be inflated on the PP with Crosby/Malkin.

If McCann played the full season in FLA would have been damn lucky to get 15.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
LH isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, cut him some slack, math isn’t for everyone
- LeftCoaster

whoa lol...shot 77 yesterday last round of the year!
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
What’s new chubs ?
- CanuckDon

Getting ready to head down south, starting to cool off in AZ, should be good in another three weeks. What about you? Still going down every now and again.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Jesus, Virtanen aint going no where. He was Aquilini's first pick with JB and a local boy.

$1.5 million for a 15 goal scorer is a bargain. You take it and run. Is there more in the tank? Who knows. But hes not getting dealt this year. Sorry #teamwhiner, not happening.

Goldobin possibly but JV will be a 13th forward before hes dealt for a bag of pucks.

If his floor is on the same level as one of these AHLers (see Graovac) ceiling, then obviously he stays.

#stupidnarratives #stfuteamwhiner
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
Green is using the press as a tool, I think he's trying to get under JV's skin.

They have a history from Utica. The difference today is Miller/Ferland will take minutes from him. I can see JV in the press box (again) if things don't change fast.

- VanHockeyGuy

Funny that Ferland went 18 and 25 in his first two basically full NHL seasons.

JV last two seasons has gone 20 and 25. So if Jv hits 40 points this year he's as good as Ferland and should get first line duties? Pretty sure Ferland has spent a lot of time playing with 1st line players the last two seasons he's hit 40 points.

I said TG needed to evolve this season for the Canucks to make a splash. Haven't seen much of it yet.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
whoa lol...shot 77 yesterday last round of the year!
- LordHumungous

Nice!! I was 83 (but I still won my match)

VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
Poolparty pretty much did the exact same thing with the last two coaches in Edmonton as JV is doing with TG. Now he's in Europe.

It's basically trading Gagner for Spooner.

- manvanfan


It's a gamble for both teams right? Pool party is merely an example, but VAN should roll the dice on a deal for him in lieu of getting a 3rd or? for him.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
Jesus, Virtanen aint going no where. He was Aquilini's first pick with JB and a local boy.

$1.5 million for a 15 goal scorer is a bargain. You take it and run. Is there more in the tank? Who knows. But hes not getting dealt this year. Sorry #teamwhiner, not happening.

Goldobin possibly but JV will be a 13th forward before hes dealt for a bag of pucks.

If his floor is on the same level as one of these AHLers (see Graovac) ceiling, then obviously he stays.

#stupidnarratives #stfuteamwhiner

- chompsey

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
Package them together to a team that could use bodies/better depth
- manvanfan


JV and Tanev to WPG would be nice. What could WPG offer?
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Funny that Ferland went 18 and 25 in his first two basically full NHL seasons.

JV last two seasons has gone 20 and 25. So if Jv hits 40 points this year he's as good as Ferland and should get first line duties? Pretty sure Ferland has spent a lot of time playing with 1st line players the last two seasons he's hit 40 points.

I said TG needed to evolve this season for the Canucks to make a splash. Haven't seen much of it yet.

- manvanfan


JV's got competition this year which is a good thing. Let the cards fall where they may.
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