The two firsts are protected and come with a salary dump I’m sure. That’s assuming there is any truth to this

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When dealing with Eklund you shouldn’t be consulting a hockey insider.
Given the source of Eklund’s rumours, you would better off discussing it with his Proctologist

Jets have a history of killing the Sabres in trades, but it would be difficult to lose a deal in which they acquire Laine

Risto will be included, and he’s addition by subtraction. Would probably be something like Laine for Risto + Reinhart + two 1sts. Or Risto + Middlestadt + 1st

Either way, Buffalo wins the deal

I didnt say they wouldnt want him. I said they know the situation the jets are in right now and that will mean they wont be able to win any trade for him.

That doesnt mean they cant get good value back from a team but not at a premium rate.

Is there really a more desperate gm right now ? On the brink of losing 3 of their top six d from last season and two of their best players unsigned.
- Devilish4

You're definitely spot on about other GMs being able to deal from a position of strength. I'm just not so sure that if Laine were truly available one of those GMs wouldn't flinch.

Hope it’s true. Would be sick to have Laine with Eichel
- doctordizzle

Hopefully a effective line. Sure a ugly one! 🤣

Jets have a history of killing the Sabres in trades, but it would be difficult to lose a deal in which they acquire Laine

Risto will be included, and he’s addition by subtraction. Would probably be something like Laine for Risto + Reinhart + two 1sts. Or Risto + Middlestadt + 1st

Either way, Buffalo wins the deal
- AxlRose91

You have to high as a kite to think laine is worth risto+ Reinhart and two first. An offer sheet would cost less then that. Laine is overrated and does not have close to that value.

You have to high as a kite to think laine is worth risto+ Reinhart and two first. An offer sheet would cost less then that. Laine is overrated and does not have close to that value.
- Bigdog1991

Coming off a down year, Laine is undervalued. You’d be lucky to get him for that package. Risto is a flat out terrible player, and Reinhart is nothing special. Laine could be a generational goal scorer

I wouldnt want him unless I can steal him. He's boobs on a bull when he isnt scoring

I wouldnt want him unless I can steal him. He's boobs on a bull when he isnt scoring
- Flybynight88

I'm very aroused.

Habs move to 4-0. Destroyed the Sens opening day roster with a 3rd of their regulars where as the Leafs failed to beat their split squad twice



They aren't in first now are they???

Laine for Dahlin and Bogosian.

Bogosian is probably injured 60 of 82 games and is a pending ufa. Levels off the salary cap issue.

Yes I know this won’t happen but scorers like Laine don’t show up that often.

On Buffalo the equivalent to that is a trade for Reinhardt, Cozens a 2nd and a 3rd. How is this hard to realize? Do that or give the picks? Also how do you or anyone fit over 9 million under your cap without trading anyone?

Wake up

I think you need to do a bit better research; thinking that Laine, is worth Reinhardt+Risto+?

You do realize Reinhardt hasn’t even reached his ceiling while Laine retracted quite a bit last season; Sam has increased his points every season in this league to finish last season with 65 to Laine’s 50. I know it’s easy to just assume Laine (the superstar), far outweighs the lowly Sam Reinhardt, but a small amount of effort to really look into the players present a completely different reality than you have here.

Habs move to 4-0. Destroyed the Sens opening day roster with a 3rd of their regulars where as the Leafs failed to beat their split squad twice



They aren't in first now









- Komisaurus Rex

You really are desperate, aren’t you?

Laine for Dahlin and Bogosian.

Bogosian is probably injured 60 of 82 games and is a pending ufa. Levels off the salary cap issue.

Yes I know this won’t happen but scorers like Laine don’t show up that often.
- JetsAvs

This is true comedy.

Dahlin is going to be the best defenseman in all of hockey by Christmas. He was already by most analytics a top 20 defenseman at 18.

I wouldn't trade him for Laine AND Connor

Ristolainen for Laine. Battle of the Finns.

You have to high as a kite to think laine is worth risto+ Reinhart and two first. An offer sheet would cost less then that. Laine is overrated and does not have close to that value.
- Bigdog1991

Your right, Jets should trade him
For Teverdoski and Chad Kilger.

On Buffalo the equivalent to that is a trade for Reinhardt, Cozens a 2nd and a 3rd. How is this hard to realize? Do that or give the picks? Also how do you or anyone fit over 9 million under your cap without trading anyone?

Wake up

I think you need to do a bit better research; thinking that Laine, is worth Reinhardt+Risto+?

You do realize Reinhardt hasn’t even reached his ceiling while Laine retracted quite a bit last season; Sam has increased his points every season in this league to finish last season with 65 to Laine’s 50. I know it’s easy to just assume Laine (the superstar), far outweighs the lowly Sam Reinhardt, but a small amount of effort to really look into the players present a completely different reality than you have here.
- nikel

I like how you took half my quote. Laine would not sign any offer sheet for less than 9 mil, so the cost of that in picks to the Jets is 2 firsts, a second and a third. So I showed what that would look like in Buffalo for players as they have no cap space to just give picks.

Now as for your Reinhardt / Laine comparison, sure let’s go down that road after three season in the NHL Reinhardt had 134 point and was 21, Laine had 184 points and was a full year younger at 20. Anyone thinking these guys are even remotely worthy of comparison is out to lunch.

Rodriguez a cap eater??
Can easily give you 25-30pts in 3rd line role, $2m for 1yr RFA
Risto gives you 3 years on a solid contract for a top 4 Dman (which he can be if properly utilized in a 3-4 role)

Two 2nds give you extra assets
Laine can take his $10m+ to Buffalo and we can talk about Buffalo’s impending caphell between Eichel, Skinner, Laine, Reinhardt, Okposo and the upcoming extension for Middlestadt
- J-Johnston9

IMO you need a 1st rnd pick in there.

Your right, Jets should trade him
For Teverdoski and Chad Kilger.
- Ross77

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. No one would EVER give anything of value for those two plugs.

I like how you took half my quote. Laine would not sign any offer sheet for less than 9 mil, so the cost of that in picks to the Jets is 2 firsts, a second and a third. So I showed what that would look like in Buffalo for players as they have no cap space to just give picks.

Now as for your Reinhardt / Laine comparison, sure let’s go down that road after three season in the NHL Reinhardt had 134 point and was 21, Laine had 184 points and was a full year younger at 20. Anyone thinking these guys are even remotely worthy of comparison is out to lunch.
- Ross77

From what I'm seeing on CapFriendly the Sabres have zero cap space. Is that correct? If so, any trade for the Sabres they have to clear out cap space.

In my uneducated opinion, any possible deal with the Sabres starts with Montour (4.4 mill). So if the Jets took back Sheary (3.0) and Rodrigues (2.0) and the Sabres added in Mittlestadt, the Sabres would have enough to sign Laine.

Now the Sabes might not want to give up Mittle and that might there-in lie the problem. Maybe the Jets would settle for a draft choice instead, but doubt it. But a starting point in any negotiation between the two teams.

A lot of this depends on the Buff situation.

I like how you took half my quote. Laine would not sign any offer sheet for less than 9 mil, so the cost of that in picks to the Jets is 2 firsts, a second and a third. So I showed what that would look like in Buffalo for players as they have no cap space to just give picks.

Now as for your Reinhardt / Laine comparison, sure let’s go down that road after three season in the NHL Reinhardt had 134 point and was 21, Laine had 184 points and was a full year younger at 20. Anyone thinking these guys are even remotely worthy of comparison is out to lunch.
- Ross77

But no offer sheet has been made nor denied, so your whole argument goes "poof". JB is not dealing Risto for peanuts, and certainly not giving him, Reinhart, Cozens and/or (probably) not Middelstat in combination with first round picks for Laine. A 2oa plus a top 4 rhd plus 2 first rounders> No f'ing way.

Wpg needs a top 4 RD. As much as we'd all like a scorer like Laine, giving up a boatload for a 20 yo head case, no matter how good he may be, is not what the Sabres should be doing.

IMO you need a 1st rnd pick in there.
- dmnted

That I can understand, but cap implications from Laine’s contract need to be considered for what is coming back in return, imo anything longer term and high money is a very high risk with Laine (at this point)

Reinhart is a no go.

But no offer sheet has been made nor denied, so your whole argument goes "poof". JB is not dealing Risto for peanuts, and certainly not giving him, Reinhart, Cozens and/or (probably) not Middelstat in combination with first round picks for Laine. A 2oa plus a top 4 rhd plus 2 first rounders> No f'ing way.

Wpg needs a top 4 RD. As much as we'd all like a scorer like Laine, giving up a boatload for a 20 yo head case, no matter how good he may be, is not what the Sabres should be doing.
- LandlordTom

I actually never said what the sabres should or shouldn’t do,
Just said the cost for Laine. You are right, no offer has been made or denied. But why in the world would the Jets trade him away for less than what they’d get if he did sign an offer sheet?
Jets will bide their time here, either someone steps up with a huge trade offer, Laine comes to his senses and signs a reasonable bridge deal or some team steps up and offers him a huge deal he signs and then the Jets can match or take the picks.

Eklund: Sabres Talk to the Jets about Patrick Laine...(e4)
- Eklund

Is it an e4 the Sabres have talked to the Jets about Laine, or an e4 that Laine becomes a sabre?