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Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
Liane playing with aho would be really exciting to watch

Carolina sends svech, faulk, tvr and flurry to the peg

The jets have a hard time signing free agents so a Faulk extension would have to be apart of the deal.

- BrainSap

I doubt Carolina does that. Svech is a 2nd overall pick just like Laine and has no drama surrounding him, plus he scored 20 goals last year playing like 14 minutes a night.
viper488
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MB
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
You own his rights for 5 years but that doesnt mean they will be worth anything if you seriously plan on letting him sit out that long. Its in the jets best interest to end all this drama and move on to worrying about the regular season.
- Devilish4


This may be a lost season for the Jets. If they string it along trying to hold the window open it will shut and stay shut. I think the wisest move might be to step back and burn this year and retool the D while the depth up front is still strong.

In that scenario the best thing could be to try to get Laine on a 1yr show me deal then pump and dump like it's never been done before. Give him 22 minutes a night on the first line and close to the full 2 minutes every PP. Get him to 40 by the trade deadline then collect a king's ransom for him.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
First guy says his current value is low, so let him sit. Second guy says if he sits his value gets lower.

How does that not make sense? His trade value certainly isn't going up if he misses a season.

- viper488

His trade value is not going up or down, i'm pretty sure every GM knows what he's all about by now.
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Sep 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
I honestly wouldn’t trade Reinhart straight up for laine. He is much more complete player.
J-Johnston9
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.22.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
Rodriguez a cap eater??
Can easily give you 25-30pts in 3rd line role, $2m for 1yr RFA
Risto gives you 3 years on a solid contract for a top 4 Dman (which he can be if properly utilized in a 3-4 role)

Two 2nds give you extra assets
Laine can take his $10m+ to Buffalo and we can talk about Buffalo’s impending caphell between Eichel, Skinner, Laine, Reinhardt, Okposo and the upcoming extension for Middlestadt
J-Johnston9
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.22.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
Rodriguez a cap eater??
Can easily give you 25-30pts in 3rd line role, $2m for 1yr RFA
Risto gives you 3 years on a solid contract for a top 4 Dman (which he can be if properly utilized in a 3-4 role)

Two 2nds give you extra assets
Laine can take his $10m+ to Buffalo and we can talk about Buffalo’s impending caphell between Eichel, Skinner, Laine, Reinhardt, Okposo and the upcoming extension for Middlestadt
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
This may be a lost season for the Jets. If they string it along trying to hold the window open it will shut and stay shut. I think the wisest move might be to step back and burn this year and retool the D while the depth up front is still strong.

In that scenario the best thing could be to try to get Laine on a 1yr show me deal then pump and dump like it's never been done before. Give him 22 minutes a night on the first line and close to the full 2 minutes every PP. Get him to 40 by the trade deadline then collect a king's ransom for him.

- viper488

If the route is to move on I agree you gotta regain some of that value by playing him.

Right now his trade value is at its lowest and makes little sense to move him as you might find a good deal but I dont see how the Jets can leverage a win in any trade when every gm knows whats going on with them.
viper488
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MB
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
His trade value is not going up or down, i'm pretty sure every GM knows what he's all about by now.
- bobbyisno1


You don't think a year of playing Fortnite and eating candy all day would diminish his value any?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
You don't think a year of playing Fortnite and eating candy all day would diminish his value any?
- viper488

I think he can play over seas or train with a junior team, how about you?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
he fails to say they only wanted to ask how he was doing
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Sep 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
The minimum offer sheet that Laine would sign and the Jets may not match would be 5 years at over 9 per.
This costs the team 2-1rst, a 2nd and a 3rd.

On Buffalo the equivalent to that is a trade for Reinhardt, Cozens a 2nd and a 3rd. How is this hard to realize? Do that or give the picks? Also how do you or anyone fit over 9 million under your cap without trading anyone?

Wake up


Reinhart is a better player then laine. More of a completer player. Laine value is all time low. Don’t need to offersheet him. So that is not his value. To make cap work risto and sheary is enough to get laine contract work. Then can add prospects not named cozens and picks.

I think fair trade would be

Risto, sheary, Thompson and 2020 second
For
laine 2020 fourth

Might be over payment
viper488
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MB
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
I think he can play over seas or train with a junior team, how about you?
- bobbyisno1


Absolutely he does, but his whole demeanor suggests he's a loafer. I don't trust his work ethic to stick with an NHL caliber training regiment at the NHL level. I seriously doubt he sticks with it in whichever bush league he'd end up.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
Reinhart is a better player then laine. More of a completer player. Laine value is all time low. Don’t need to offersheet him. So that is not his value. To make cap work risto and sheary is enough to get laine contract work. Then can add prospects not named cozens and picks.

I think fair trade would be

Risto, sheary, Thompson and 2020 second
For
laine 2020 fourth

Might be over payment

- Bigdog1991

Why is Laine's value at an all time low? 40 goal winger tough to find that.
Was Marners value at an all time low last week?
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
I think he can play over seas or train with a junior team, how about you?
- bobbyisno1

Absolutely and his value will go down.especially if he misses an entire season.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
Absolutely he does, but his whole demeanor suggests he's a loafer. I don't trust his work ethic to stick with an NHL caliber training regiment at the NHL level. I seriously doubt he sticks with it in whichever bush league he'd end up.
- viper488

He's from Sweden, i'm sure he won't have a problem playing there.
viper488
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MB
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
If the route is to move on I agree you gotta regain some of that value by playing him.

Right now his trade value is at its lowest and makes little sense to move him as you might find a good deal but I dont see how the Jets can leverage a win in any trade when every gm knows whats going on with them.

- Devilish4


To play both sides, I actually think there's got to be at least a couple GMs out there who still value him now. I wouldn't want him on my team, but I believe somebody would be willing to pay a very high price for that cannon.
viper488
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MB
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
He's from Sweden, i'm sure he won't have a problem playing there.
- bobbyisno1


*Finland
But sure, he could very likely play in the SEL. And if he does I don't believe he would put in full time effort. Essentially it would be like taking a year off.
Devilish4
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.21.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
To play both sides, I actually think there's got to be at least a couple GMs out there who still value him now. I wouldn't want him on my team, but I believe somebody would be willing to pay a very high price for that cannon.
- viper488

I didnt say they wouldnt want him. I said they know the situation the jets are in right now and that will mean they wont be able to win any trade for him.

That doesnt mean they cant get good value back from a team but not at a premium rate.

Is there really a more desperate gm right now ? On the brink of losing 3 of their top six d from last season and two of their best players unsigned.
flipneil
Joined: 02.22.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Sabres reporter Paul Hamilton about this rumor
Sorry, I don’t do fake trades


So the sabres insider knows nothing about this
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Sep 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Why is Laine's value at an all time low? 40 goal winger tough to find that.
Was Marners value at an all time low last week?

- bobbyisno1

He scored 30 goals and 50 points. Not a good year. And over 20 something goals were scored in one month. Meanwhile marner had a career year. If laine can’t score he is useless because he is good at nothing else. Literally nothing.

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Reinhart is a better player then laine. More of a completer player. Laine value is all time low. Don’t need to offersheet him. So that is not his value. To make cap work risto and sheary is enough to get laine contract work. Then can add prospects not named cozens and picks.

I think fair trade would be

Risto, sheary, Thompson and 2020 second
For
laine 2020 fourth

Might be over payment

- Bigdog1991


You sir are funny
Rev
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 05.14.2019

Sep 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
His value is not at an all time low lol its at a pretty high value right now hence why there are no deals being done. Most rosters are pretty much set and it would devastate most rosters to have to put out what it would take to get laine.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Sep 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
I don't believe that the Jets are going to trade Laine anytime soon as no team will give up the quality player that would make the Jets better after losing Laine.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Sep 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
He scored 30 goals and 50 points. Not a good year. And over 20 something goals were scored in one month. Meanwhile marner had a career year. If laine can’t score he is useless because he is good at nothing else. Literally nothing.
- Bigdog1991

I love how people paint scoring 20 goals in one month like its a bad thing, cause you know, that happens all the time and good players can do that easy right? I’m sure complete player Reinhardt must have done that like what 2 or 3 times thus far in his career?
Norm.Peterson
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.19.2012

Sep 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Plain and Simple. Any player Buffalo has that would make a trade for Laine work the Sabres wouldn't want to give up.
Eichel, Skinner and Miller with $9 million retained is probably what Tim Murray would have been willing to give up for Laine, but Botterill isnt quite as stupid as his predecessor.
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