- jimbro83

Buch always looks like he knows something that we all don't

You'd have to think though, that for a team to sign ADA to a contract that we wouldn't match in about 10 seconds, it would have to be something like 2.5 million plus. That still isn't a 1st rounder, but it's not nothing. At that point, they might as well just do a straight out trade as not to poke the bear.
- 2sticks1puck

I know the Rangers can bury some money to make more cap space but I don't know if matching an overpriced contract for him would be the most prudent business decision. Still, they could go up to a little over $2.1M and only give up a 3rd rounder.

Buch always looks like he knows something that we all don't
- mdw7413

Like he farted and he's just waiting for everyone else to catch a whiff

Like he farted and he's just waiting for everyone else to catch a whiff
- eichiefs9

Carpet bombing on the golf course

I know the Rangers can bury some money to make more cap space but I don't know if matching an overpriced contract for him would be the most prudent business decision. Still, they could go up to a little over $2.1M and only give up a 3rd rounder.
- eichiefs9

I know that. I agree with you in no real world the Jets give up a 1st rounder. I also think though that an offer sheet is pretty unrealistic to me. You probably could just get him for a 2nd/3rd if you really wanted to and not piss off a big market team.

I know the Rangers can bury some money to make more cap space but I don't know if matching an overpriced contract for him would be the most prudent business decision. Still, they could go up to a little over $2.1M and only give up a 3rd rounder.
- eichiefs9

depends how long the contract is too

if someone gave Tony D a long term offer sheet, Rangers have Trouba, Fox and hopefully Lundkvist is here next year, Rangers may not be in the market to match say a 4 year 12 million deal

Trouba got burned twice and it had nothing to do with Skjei. Trouba can't be caught in no mans land, he don't have the foot speed to recover

Trouba got burned twice and it had nothing to do with Skjei. Trouba can't be caught in no mans land, he don't have the foot speed to recover
- mdw7413

I thought the one goal that Trouba flubbed it at center ice and Skjei water skiied I really think Trouba had trouble with the puck bouncing and it was a bad ice kind of thing

overall I liked Trouba, he's going to be out there against the other team's best forwards all season, there are going to be some tough moments for sure

depends how long the contract is too

if someone gave Tony D a long term offer sheet, Rangers have Trouba, Fox and hopefully Lundkvist is here next year, Rangers may not be in the market to match say a 4 year 12 million deal
- jimbro83

I think we wouldn’t match. That would bet us a 2nd though. Not some huge bounty, but like I said before, why not just try to acquire his rights at that point? From all accounts, we’d listen to offers on him. A team could avoid upsetting us.

I thought the one goal that Trouba flubbed it at center ice and Skjei water skiied I really think Trouba had trouble with the puck bouncing and it was a bad ice kind of thing

overall I liked Trouba, he's going to be out there against the other team's best forwards all season, there are going to be some tough moments for sure
- jimbro83

I couldn't tell on that play. He didn't get the puck or the man and Skjei got stuck with a two on one.

I have been a big critic of Skjei the last 2 years, but Trouba had his own issues last night that really had nothing to do with Skjei.

Trouba looked real good on the PP

It was only 1 game so I really don't care but it seems no one wanted to criticize Trouba and just blame it on Skjei

I couldn't tell on that play. He didn't get the puck or the man and Skjei got stuck with a two on one.

I have been a big critic of Skjei the last 2 years, but Trouba had his own issues last night that really had nothing to do with Skjei.

Trouba looked real good on the PP

It was only 1 game so I really don't care but it seems no one wanted to criticize Trouba and just blame it on Skjei
- mdw7413

It's only preseason, but with that said.....If Skjei can't get to top form playing with his best friend then he's done

It's only preseason, but with that said.....If Skjei can't get to top form playing with his best friend then he's done
- rrentz

Completely agree. Like I said I have been down on Skjei for the last 2 years, but it doesn't mean you can't call out Trouba when he makes a bad play

depends how long the contract is too

if someone gave Tony D a long term offer sheet, Rangers have Trouba, Fox and hopefully Lundkvist is here next year, Rangers may not be in the market to match say a 4 year 12 million deal
- jimbro83

There isnt a GM in the world that would offer Tony D 12mill for 4 yrs. Not even Chiarelli.

There isnt a GM in the world that would offer Tony D 12mill for 4 yrs. Not even Chiarelli.
- Brukie

I dont know, I didn't think there would be a GM that would pay Pionk 3 million a year either

It's almost time...

false read... Sheys play in gm 1 of nothing but dont get hurt in pre season..
cant read too much into play with mixey matchy lines & combos
some real concerns :
i get nervous we are holding high play right out of the box for the rooks , and complete 180's on our 2nd yr babys , they are trying to find there position (Chtyl,Howden),make the team like (Lias ) ,hearing D pairs of Libor & Fox ???
thats a double negative starting 2 rooks on same pair ? takes balls or blindness .
Now ADA watches a putz no D like Pionk get 3 mill and he cant get 1 outta broadway ?cmon were going small on the kid
known for throwing fishnagles around like a mere bag of shells ,Cmon ,the kid if he had a better rap sheet in NHL would yield the same or more than Pin hd. BUT im not mad at P man ,how cna NYR risk all the good work he & team put in getting him to turn the corner at least in maturity , he has grown alot BUT now is where my conspiracy theory kicks in ....
Right now as built we have a big hole at #2 C and sum experience issues with 3 & 4 D men or the 2nd pair , staal is a 6 / 7 is fine but our top 6 is leaking if Fox is given a spot & Libor as his partner ,? I dont see this team done dealing
HANK very quiet, we have 2 yrs to make a run with OR why is he here ?
The deal coming or deals are for a 2 c & 2nd pair D
Going on the trade block are the usual suspects (kreids ,Names ,Strome ,Boo )
ADD : ADA &Howden
I like J P pageau & others higher up the line of centers we would want , they could use ADA at a value & with our stable of prospects /picks ,solve the middle issue , finding a solid D will depend on the fall out with signings pending now till 10/3 open nite
make those additions OR subtract HANK out & get more of the future back

false read... Sheys play in gm 1 of nothing but dont get hurt in pre season..
cant read too much into play with mixey matchy lines & combos
some real concerns :
i get nervous we are holding high play right out of the box for the rooks , and complete 180's on our 2nd yr babys , they are trying to find there position (Chtyl,Howden),make the team like (Lias ) ,hearing D pairs of Libor & Fox ???
thats a double negative starting 2 rooks on same pair ? takes balls or blindness .
Now ADA watches a putz no D like Pionk get 3 mill and he cant get 1 outta broadway ?cmon were going small on the kid
known for throwing fishnagles around like a mere bag of shells ,Cmon ,the kid if he had a better rap sheet in NHL would yield the same or more than Pin hd. BUT im not mad at P man ,how cna NYR risk all the good work he & team put in getting him to turn the corner at least in maturity , he has grown alot BUT now is where my conspiracy theory kicks in ....
Right now as built we have a big hole at #2 C and sum experience issues with 3 & 4 D men or the 2nd pair , staal is a 6 / 7 is fine but our top 6 is leaking if Fox is given a spot & Libor as his partner ,? I dont see this team done dealing
HANK very quiet, we have 2 yrs to make a run with OR why is he here ?
The deal coming or deals are for a 2 c & 2nd pair D
Going on the trade block are the usual suspects (kreids ,Names ,Strome ,Boo )
ADD : ADA &Howden
I like J P pageau & others higher up the line of centers we would want , they could use ADA at a value & with our stable of prospects /picks ,solve the middle issue , finding a solid D will depend on the fall out with signings pending now till 10/3 open nite
make those additions OR subtract HANK out & get more of the future back
- NASHTYGUY

Just highlighting a few things: This team is going to take lumps early on because the rookies and that's OK. I've been on the get a 2C bandwagon too, but I think given our cap issues all we can do is hope for the best that one of Chytil, Lias, or Howden becomes that guy.

I agree with you about the rookie D pairs. They seem set to start Skeji with Trouba, but I wonder if putting Hajek there so he can learn off Trouba would be better. I would rather put Skeji with Fox and tell Skeji just to worry about the defensive end. Not only would it help with Fox with what he does best (make plays), but it might help with Brady only concentrating on one end of the rink.

I'm one of the biggest ADA fans here. It is what it is. I think the team should give him a little bit more and just get it done, but they have their reasons and there is some decent reasoning on why they are playing hardball.

false read... Sheys play in gm 1 of nothing but dont get hurt in pre season..
cant read too much into play with mixey matchy lines & combos
some real concerns :
i get nervous we are holding high play right out of the box for the rooks , and complete 180's on our 2nd yr babys , they are trying to find there position (Chtyl,Howden),make the team like (Lias ) ,hearing D pairs of Libor & Fox ???
thats a double negative starting 2 rooks on same pair ? takes balls or blindness .
Now ADA watches a putz no D like Pionk get 3 mill and he cant get 1 outta broadway ?cmon were going small on the kid
known for throwing fishnagles around like a mere bag of shells ,Cmon ,the kid if he had a better rap sheet in NHL would yield the same or more than Pin hd. BUT im not mad at P man ,how cna NYR risk all the good work he & team put in getting him to turn the corner at least in maturity , he has grown alot BUT now is where my conspiracy theory kicks in ....
Right now as built we have a big hole at #2 C and sum experience issues with 3 & 4 D men or the 2nd pair , staal is a 6 / 7 is fine but our top 6 is leaking if Fox is given a spot & Libor as his partner ,? I dont see this team done dealing
HANK very quiet, we have 2 yrs to make a run with OR why is he here ?
The deal coming or deals are for a 2 c & 2nd pair D
Going on the trade block are the usual suspects (kreids ,Names ,Strome ,Boo )
ADD : ADA &Howden
I like J P pageau & others higher up the line of centers we would want , they could use ADA at a value & with our stable of prospects /picks ,solve the middle issue , finding a solid D will depend on the fall out with signings pending now till 10/3 open nite
make those additions OR subtract HANK out & get more of the future back
- NASHTYGUY

If it wasn't for the Salary Cap, ADA would already be signed. I'm sure his position is that it's not his problem that everyone else got paid and he's the odd man out because of the Cap, but it is.

If it wasn't for the Salary Cap, ADA would already be signed. I'm sure his position is that it's not his problem that everyone else got paid and he's the odd man out because of the Cap, but it is.
- Fenrir

it's just a dumb time to holdout

lots of competition in camp for that spot, Fox looks really good. Even if Tony D was here he's likely on the 3rd pair.

His agent is clearly giving him rotten advice.

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