Love the excuses guys. Keep em coming!
- RedRevenge

Sorry we need excuses for a pre season game?

You are very bad at this trolling thing, do better.

Eventual lineup (Dermott and Hyman back):

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Mikheyev - Matthews - Johnsson
Kerfoot - Nylander - Kapanen
Spezza - Gauthier - Moore
13th: Shore

Rielly - Dermott
Muzzin - Barrie
Kivihalme - Ceci
7th: Marincin

Andersen

- MaximusAurelius[waiver backup goalie]

two things jump out at me on this

1) Nylander is going to play with Matthews - he's going to get a 40 game opportunity to prove he can turn back like nobodies business

2) Dermott can't be penciled in on the top pair - he's going to get 5-6 offer sheets in excess of 6M$ .... not sure who will break this first Dreger or Lebrun

Love the excuses guys. Keep em coming!
- RedRevenge

what d phack are you chirping about...


did your mother come up with a good excuse as to why you look like the mail man?

If they didnt have to play one of the best teams in the NHL in the first round every year we'd probably be having quite a different conversation right now.

Also, the their main issue in the playoffs was not grit, it was their D wasnt great, and last year the powerplay looked like they were the Senators, but worse. If they had more grit on the backend theyd be fine.
- Archaic

Meh, the leafs were also one the better reg season teams in the league. No excuse the past 2 years.

How did he look last night?
- Atomic Wedgie

Looked pretty good from what I seen. Looking forward to seeing more of him during the preseason to get better look though.

How did he look last night?
- Atomic Wedgie

very engaged, strong on puck, had some great in tight passing sequences with Rielly amongst others, doesn't seem shy about puck retrieval...

big guy (for a change) who can move well and handle the puck

those guys were effective, Zezel was a beast in the faceoff circle.

and they chipped in a fair number of important goals.

definitely not easy to play against...

something like that is exactly what the Leafs need now... a group with an identity.
- BorjeFan4Ever

You're not allowed to use your feet anymore, so Zezel's signature move wouldn't work.

I loved Zezel.

Eventual lineup (Dermott and Hyman back):

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Mikheyev - Matthews - Johnsson
Kerfoot - Nylander - Kapanen
Spezza - Gauthier - Moore
13th: Shore

Rielly - Dermott
Muzzin - Barrie
Kivihalme - Ceci
7th: Marincin

Andersen

- MaximusAurelius[waiver backup goalie]

I know you do it for attention. But no max, willie will not be 3rd center. He will be a winger.
Congrats on keeping him in the line up though.

I know you do it for attention. But no max, willie will not be 3rd center. He will be a winger.
Congrats on keeping him in the line up though.
- Fakepartofme

I dunno, I'd try him at 3rd line centre for a bit.

very engaged, strong on puck, had some great in tight passing sequences with Rielly amongst others, doesn't seem shy about puck retrieval...

big guy (for a change) who can move well and handle the puck
- BorjeFan4Ever

So pencil him in for the 3rd line?

I know you do it for attention. But no max, willie will not be 3rd center. He will be a winger.
Congrats on keeping him in the line up though.
- Fakepartofme

been saying since trading Kadri that Leafs need a better 'true' #3C.
Same for the backup goalie issue.

Leafs have very much depth on wing - should trade one of Johnsson / Nylander / Kapanen / (Kerfoot) / ... to address those key positions..

So pencil him in for the 3rd line?
- Atomic Wedgie

I think so... 3rd line LW, with Kerfoot and Kapanen.

sens chabo get paid

Gauthier will need to clear waivers if he is sent down.

That might get interesting.

Or it might not...

Gauthier will need to clear waivers if he is sent down.

That might get interesting.

Or it might not...
- Atomic Wedgie

He'd look at home in a Ducks jersey

I think so... 3rd line LW, with Kerfoot and Kapanen.
- PatC80

He's also waiver-exempt, so the Leafs can send him down (on paper) every off-day to save some of that precious, precious cap space.

I can't wait for Beatle John and Komisoreass to complain about that.

Gauthier will need to clear waivers if he is sent down.

That might get interesting.

Or it might not...
- Atomic Wedgie

I can't think of a team that would claim him

He's also waiver-exempt, so the Leafs can send him down (on paper) every off-day to save some of that precious, precious cap space.

I can't wait for Beatle John and Komisoreass to complain about that.
- Atomic Wedgie

Leafs are dumb for following the rules

He'd look at home in a Ducks jersey
- TheMussel

We took him six drafts ago, and he can't stick as our 4th line centre.

It might be time for somebody to trot out the ol' sunken-cost fallacy explanation.

Love the excuses guys. Keep em coming!
- RedRevenge

Two pre season games and you are puking out stupidity?
Come on.
Wait.

At least unil game 5.

sens chabo get paid
- senstroll

Marner is to Kucherov what Chabot is to Hedman.

Should be good deal for Sens if he continues to be elite young dman.

But this should help give some perspective on why Marner makes more than Kucherov.

He's also waiver-exempt, so the Leafs can send him down (on paper) every off-day to save some of that precious, precious cap space.

I can't wait for Beatle John and Komisoreass to complain about that.
- Atomic Wedgie

Damnit where has he been! Has he taken another form? I miss those lengthy soapbox lectures.

Gauthier will need to clear waivers if he is sent down.

That might get interesting.

Or it might not...
- Atomic Wedgie

He could be the next Joe colbourne for the leafs.

Love the excuses guys. Keep em coming!
- RedRevenge

This is not going on all day, i can guarantee...

My guess is that it will be;

Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Marchment - Spezza - Shore

Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Barrie
Dermott - Schmaltz

Andersen
Neuvirth
- PatC80

Mikheyev Tavares Marner
Hyman Matthews Nylander
Agostino Lowry Kapanen
Moore Goat Gaudet/Marchment

Rielly - Ristolainen
Muzzin - Barrie
Harpur - Liljegren/Schmaltz

Dermott & Johnsson to Buffalo
Ristolainen(.5m retained) + Borgen to Toronto

Ceci to Winnipeg
Lowry to Toronto