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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
And again, I said I agree on Vorobyov and NAK. They are 4th line tweeners.

I don't think an injury-shortened 14 game AHL season should be held against Rubstov, though. Do you agree?

- jmatchett383

I agree but still would be disappointed if Stewart beat him out. I can't come to terms with this dude playing in England then making our team.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
Not sure if it's lost in translation but Laine seems to be saying all the wrong things.
"When you're having contract negotiations, one thing always is who are you playing with," Laine explained, as translated by Jalonen for Winnipeg's TSN Radio 1290. "With the merits I have, somewhere else I'd have an opportunity to play with the best players. Everybody who understands hockey knows that.

"There are top lines and then there is our line. But I play with the guys I'm told to play."
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Sep 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Not sure if it's lost in translation but Laine seems to be saying all the wrong things.
"When you're having contract negotiations, one thing always is who are you playing with," Laine explained, as translated by Jalonen for Winnipeg's TSN Radio 1290. "With the merits I have, somewhere else I'd have an opportunity to play with the best players. Everybody who understands hockey knows that.

"There are top lines and then there is our line. But I play with the guys I'm told to play."

- ClaudeFather


Jeez.....if these comments weren't taken out of context via some translator and Laine knows what he's saying given his choppy English, this is a direct way to get yourself traded, which very much seems like what he wants. me personally, I just wish he'd stay in Winnipeg instead of having the potential of another talented player finding themselves in the Metro.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Sep 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
Lineups posted, are we icing only 3 forward lines tonight?
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Sep 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
Jeez.....if these comments weren't taken out of context via some translator and Laine knows what he's saying given his choppy English, this is a direct way to get yourself traded, which very much seems like what he wants. me personally, I just wish he'd stay in Winnipeg instead of having the potential of another talented player finding themselves in the Metro.
- sjk540



Wheeler already unloaded on him in the media...he sounded very offended.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
I agree but still would be disappointed if Stewart beat him out. I can't come to terms with this dude playing in England then making our team.
- ClaudeFather


I agree. I don't think Stewart should be part of the team. Maybe as 13th forward instead of a kid sitting.

Much like Ghost in 15/16 and Myers last year, they want want to start Rubstov in the AHL simply because he hasn't played a real pro game in close to a year and want to make sure he gets fully acclimated to the pro pace again before putting him into the NHL.

StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Sep 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
I agree. I don't think Stewart should be part of the team. Maybe as 13th forward instead of a kid sitting.

Much like Ghost in 15/16 and Myers last year, they want want to start Rubstov in the AHL simply because he hasn't played a real pro game in close to a year and want to make sure he gets fully acclimated to the pro pace again before putting him into the NHL.

- jmatchett383


And then when a kid misses a back check guess what happens...

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Jeez.....if these comments weren't taken out of context via some translator and Laine knows what he's saying given his choppy English, this is a direct way to get yourself traded, which very much seems like what he wants. me personally, I just wish he'd stay in Winnipeg instead of having the potential of another talented player finding themselves in the Metro.
- sjk540

Sounds of a guy wanting to be traded and a guy i want the Flyers nowhere near
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
There’s no way Myers doesn’t make the team. He’s far better than Hagg and Morin. I think he is going to develop into a top pairing dman honestly. Zamula had a sweet little deke at the blue line last night that impressed me. He could really be a steal.. I think we will see maybe Hagg/Morin traded within the next year or 2
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
There’s no way Myers doesn’t make the team. He’s far better than Hagg and Morin. I think he is going to develop into a top pairing dman honestly. Zamula had a sweet little deke at the blue line last night that impressed me. He could really be a steal.. I think we will see maybe Hagg/Morin traded within the next year or 2
- Richieattack18


Especially with being a RH shot, he's pretty much a lock to make the team. Hagg and Morin are likely the odd men out. If they trade one of them, of the two, Hagg makes the most and would bring the best (relative) return.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Sep 17 @ 4:15 PM ET
There’s no way Myers doesn’t make the team. He’s far better than Hagg and Morin. I think he is going to develop into a top pairing dman honestly. Zamula had a sweet little deke at the blue line last night that impressed me. He could really be a steal.. I think we will see maybe Hagg/Morin traded within the next year or 2
- Richieattack18


His play last night pretty much solidified it. I was expecting that if he just played his game and didn't do anything crazy, and that he didn't "lose it", meaning playing vs NHL caliber talent and didn't look out of place, he would be penciled in. The fact he looked pretty good all but sealed it in my opinion. I thought it was really his spot to lose the entire offseason.
GrittySauce
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philipdelphia, PA
Joined: 08.19.2019

Sep 17 @ 4:15 PM ET
Especially with being a RH shot, he's pretty much a lock to make the team. Hagg and Morin are likely the odd men out. If they trade one of them, of the two, Hagg makes the most and would bring the best (relative) return.
- jmatchett383


Agreed. Though I'd rather keep Hagg over Morin, I don't think there's any Chiarelli-caliber GMs at the moment that would give much of a return for Morin.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
Wheeler already unloaded on him in the media...he sounded very offended.
- juiced


Wheeler is a top player in the league...why is Laine complaining about playing with him
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
Wheeler is a top player in the league...why is Laine complaining about playing with him
- bulet13

cause he's not the top
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Sep 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
And then when a kid misses a back check guess what happens...


- StepfordSam



For me Stewart looks real classy, the kinda girl you take home to mom. However, Rubstov looks bat s#!t crazy but is probs better in the sak.

I'd stick with Rubstov and I think AV will too.
GrittySauce
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philipdelphia, PA
Joined: 08.19.2019

Sep 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Wheeler is a top player in the league...why is Laine complaining about playing with him
- bulet13


Laine played most of his 5-on-5 with Ehlers and Little last season. He probably wants Schiefele centering him, I'd guess
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 5:05 PM ET
Especially with being a RH shot, he's pretty much a lock to make the team. Hagg and Morin are likely the odd men out. If they trade one of them, of the two, Hagg makes the most and would bring the best (relative) return.
- jmatchett383


Right now, the Flyers sit with 1.167 of cap space under the upper limit. However that is with only 11 forwards. It's also with 8 defenseman. If Patrick is not ready to start the season and goes on IR, that would mean the Flyers would need to add two forwards to field a full lineup of forwards. Morin and Haag would need to clear waivers to be sent down to the AHL. Myers would not. I can see a scenario where the Flyers would temporarily demote Myers. Things can happen between now and then though.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Sep 17 @ 5:54 PM ET
There’s no way Myers doesn’t make the team. He’s far better than Hagg and Morin. I think he is going to develop into a top pairing dman honestly. Zamula had a sweet little deke at the blue line last night that impressed me. He could really be a steal.. I think we will see maybe Hagg/Morin traded within the next year or 2
- Richieattack18


Myers is the least of this team's worries. Dude should be in top 4 with Provorov, Niskanen and Sanheim
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
So if Chris VandeVelde plays 82 games on the Flyers' 4th line this year, you're okay with it because the 12th forward has minimal impact?
- jmatchett383


It isnt what I would want but Im not going to make a huge deal of it. At the end of the day the coach is putting the guy he feels is best there. If I disagree, I disagree. Im not going to complain about a player that plays 5-8 mins a game.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
Hmmmm only 9 forwards playing tonight? Weird
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 17 @ 6:51 PM ET
Lineups posted, are we icing only 3 forward lines tonight?
- Buzzo


There are guys who weren't in the morning skate who are playing tonight (Rubtsov, Vorobyev, Sushko and Stewart).
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Sep 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
Is this another "no streams" game?
Bigjohnston
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: London, ON
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 17 @ 7:07 PM ET
anyone got a flyers stream they can link? I can only get the islanders
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 17 @ 7:10 PM ET
Stream????
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Sep 17 @ 7:14 PM ET
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