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daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
578 games
40 goals
41 assists
863 pim

and he makes over 2 mil a year as a 4th liner. What else does he bring besides physical intimidation and fighting?

- Peter Richards

Nothing at all. Should be out of the league
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Sep 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
Seriously haha, one of the guys played 14 games, the other two have a couple seasons, sorry PC principal. If Stewart makes the team over em, Frank those 3 I'm done with em.
- ClaudeFather


If Stewart makes them team over them may have nothing to do with them though.

Hexy chose Haag over Morin when clearly that preseason Morin was outplaying him. Why?...probably because he saw Haag as a more steady presence prone to less mistakes.

If Brian Burke was GM here....who do you think would have been the choice?

Sometimes its not just the players play.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
If Stewart makes them team over them may have nothing to do with them though.

Hexy chose Haag over Morin when clearly that preseason Morin was outplaying him. Why?...probably because he saw Haag as a more steady presence prone to less mistakes.

If Brian Burke was GM here....who do you think would have been the choice?

Sometimes its not just the players play.

- juiced

Not sure any of that was clear but think whatever you want. If Stewart makes the team over them those kids suck, the younger guys are a little different coming straight from Junior and college.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 17 @ 1:35 PM ET
Nothing at all. Should be out of the league
- daryl stanley


well, that wasn't the topic but ok
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Sep 17 @ 1:36 PM ET
Not sure any of that was clear but think whatever you want. If Stewart makes the team over them those kids suck, the younger guys are a little different coming straight from Junior and college.
- ClaudeFather


So if the GM doe the dude a favor its an indictment on those kids?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 1:39 PM ET
So if the GM doe the dude a favor its an indictment on those kids?
- juiced

We aren't here to do people favors we are here to win hockey games, he's not getting a roster spot as a favor. If he gets a roster spot it means he beat them out.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
If Stewart makes them team over them may have nothing to do with them though.

Hexy chose Haag over Morin when clearly that preseason Morin was outplaying him. Why?...probably because he saw Haag as a more steady presence prone to less mistakes.

If Brian Burke was GM here....who do you think would have been the choice?

Sometimes its not just the players play.

- juiced

I don’t think Morin clearly outplayed Hagg in his first pre season. I definitely believe Morin outplayed Sanheim.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
We aren't here to do people favors we are here to win hockey games, he's not getting a roster spot as a favor. If he gets a roster spot it means he beat them out.
- ClaudeFather

All players have Roles. Maybe the role they are looking to fill isn’t suited For a guy like German.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Sep 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
We aren't here to do people favors we are here to win hockey games, he's not getting a roster spot as a favor. If he gets a roster spot it means he beat them out.
- ClaudeFather



Ok, so if they want someone on the roster with truculence and those guys don't fit that category, was it because they were outplayed?

I get your underlying point and I agree that is how it should be....it is also possible the GM may have their own thoughts on roster construction.

Ill drop it. I hope neither Gabriel, Andreof, or Stewart make this team.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
Ok, so if they want someone on the roster with truculence and those guys don't fit that category, was it because they were outplayed?

I get your underlying point and I agree that is how it should be....it is also possible the GM may have their own thoughts on roster construction.

Ill drop it. I hope neither Gabriel, Andreof, or Stewart make this team.

- juiced

I hope we've come to the point that we would want skill and speed on all lines, not just the top 9.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
Ok, so if they want someone on the roster with truculence and those guys don't fit that category, was it because they were outplayed?

I get your underlying point and I agree that is how it should be....it is also possible the GM may have their own thoughts on roster construction.

Ill drop it. I hope neither Gabriel, Andreof, or Stewart make this team.

- juiced


Even if Frost and farabee don't make the team, none of those three guys should be in the top 13 forwards if everyone is healthy.

Giroux-Couturier-Konency
JVR-Hayes-Voracek
Laughton-Patrick-Lindblom
Raffl-Rubtsov-Pitlick
Aube-Kubel

But everyone probably won't be healthy. If Pitlick isn't ready, I would much rather have Andreoff as a 12th/13th forward than those other two goons.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 17 @ 2:09 PM ET

Bill Meltzer‏Verified account @billmeltzer 1h1 hour agoMore



AV on Chris Stewart: "He's come in with a sense of urgency. He's skating real well. Last night, he got in on the forecheck. Got in a fight. With that kind of energy, there's a spot on a team."
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 2:14 PM ET
The answer I would say is no, which to me makes Raffl more valuable to this team than Stewart.
- sjk540



Agreed.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Sep 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
Andreoff, Gabriel, Stewart, Twarynksi all dressing tonight....hope they don't all try to "out tough" each other tonight or this game will be a freak show.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 17 @ 2:29 PM ET
Andreoff, Gabriel, Stewart, Twarynksi all dressing tonight....hope they don't all try to "out tough" each other tonight or this game will be a freak show.
- juiced


I may have to watch.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 17 @ 2:35 PM ET
If AV get the pink slip, we get Michelle terrible
- THE EVIL WITHIN

why would AV get fired already
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Sep 17 @ 2:40 PM ET
Only saw the last 8-10 minutes of the game. How did Morin play and what are the chances of him staying with the team? If he doesn't how much longer do they hold onto him?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Sep 17 @ 2:41 PM ET
why would AV get fired already
- 2Real



Bill Meltzer‏Verified account @billmeltzer 1h1 hour agoMore



AV on Chris Stewart: "He's come in with a sense of urgency. He's skating real well. Last night, he got in on the forecheck. Got in a fight. With that kind of energy, there's a spot on a team."
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Sep 17 @ 2:53 PM ET
Bill Meltzer‏Verified account @billmeltzer 1h1 hour agoMore



AV on Chris Stewart: "He's come in with a sense of urgency. He's skating real well. Last night, he got in on the forecheck. Got in a fight. With that kind of energy, there's a spot on a team."

- StepfordSam


That sound you hear is Ranger fans laughing after watching AV dress Tanner Glass and Cody Mcleod
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Sep 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
That sound you hear is Ranger fans laughing after watching AV dress Tanner Glass and Cody Mcleod
- 2sticks1puck



....pours gasoline on the floor, walks out after dropping his cigarette.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Sep 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
....pours gasoline on the floor, walks out after dropping his cigarette.
- juiced


Just for the record, I'm more of an AV defender than most people. Some things I can't really defend. For a guy who preaches to turn the other cheek, he sure likes his enforcers. It boggles the mind.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Sep 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-announces-rule-changes-for-2019-20-season/c-307949196
- FlyersGrace



NEW CATEGORY: In addition to Coach's Challenge for "Off-side" and "Interference on the Goalkeeper", a third category will allow for the Coach's Challenge of goal calls on the ice that follow plays in the Offensive Zone that should have resulted in a play stoppage, but did not.

are they calling this the Saints rule (Yes I know it was the Sharks/Blue)?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
Seriously haha, one of the guys played 14 games, the other two have a couple seasons, sorry PC principal. If Stewart makes the team over em, Frank those 3 I'm done with em.
- ClaudeFather


Well I'll agree that Vorobyov and NAK are 4th line fringe tweeners. I don't think you can say the same about Rubstov at this point.

Has nothing to do with PC, but it was wrong to classify 14 AHL games as "a couple seasons of pro hockey." Do you disagree?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
Well I'll agree that Vorobyov and NAK are 4th line fringe tweeners. I don't think you can say the same about Rubstov at this point.

Has nothing to do with PC, but it was wrong to classify 14 AHL games as "a couple seasons of pro hockey." Do you disagree?

- jmatchett383

NAK has 3 seasons, Vorobyev 2, Rubstov 1 , I lumped them all together, was it really something that needed to be called out? I think you understood where i was coming from.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
NAK has 3 seasons, Vorobyev 2, Rubstov 1 , I lumped them all together, was it really something that needed to be called out? I think you understood where i was coming from.
- ClaudeFather


And again, I said I agree on Vorobyov and NAK. They are 4th line tweeners.

I don't think an injury-shortened 14 game AHL season should be held against Rubstov, though. Do you agree?
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