The Sven narratives are pretty bad. He has concussion history but is a very skilled player and has been one of the better forwards when healthy. Top 4... yet people think he doesnt fit.

If this team wants to have 3 scoring lines... Sven fits.
- boonerbuck

I'd take Goldy over Sven.

So assuming Brock is a Canuck for the next 8yrs, you’d rather:

6.5, 6.5, 6.5, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11 (74.5)

than

8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8 (64m)

?

If everything were hearing about cap growth in the coming years is true, lock it in NOW for major value. Brock should be a Rocket Richard candidate every year for the next 8... Re-signing him after a bridge will be very difficult - especially if it lines up with Petey and Hughes getting theirs.
- DrChristianTroy

Sorry I don't buy that.

Pay him 6.5 for the next three years and you will probably see is a 30 goal scorer worth about 8 mil in 3 years

I'd take Goldy over Sven.
- A_SteamingLombardi

And trading him may give you the opportunity to address other weaknesses on the team.
- VanHockeyGuy

Our main weakness I would say is bottom 6 forwards. If sven fits in the bottom 6, trading him for another bottom 6 player seems pointless. Sven I would say is a middle 6 winger, and if he plays with say sutter and pearson, that's a 3rd line that can score and worth being excited about

If sven ends up being a 3rd line winger on this team, I think that's a testament to depth and I'd be thrilled. Hes still a good player
- Codes1087

I'm all for replacing him with a better player... but throwing him away because of some group think influenced reasons is dumb.

Sorry I don't buy that.

Pay him 6.5 for the next three years and you will probably see is a 30 goal scorer worth about 8 mil in 3 years
- VANTEL

Are you keeping track of the $ being thrown around right now?

$6.5m now will have an $8m equivalence in 3yrs. No way that happens.

New on Boeser.

https://mynhltraderumors....lo-and-schenn/2019/09/16/

edit, not new.

And trading him may give you the opportunity to address other weaknesses on the team.
- VanHockeyGuy

Value to team > Trade value

Value to team > Trade value
- boonerbuck

Still need more depth on D, you know what happens every year.

Still need more depth on D, you know what happens every year.
- VanHockeyGuy

I think this time of year is the absolute toughest to make trades. We will see tons of players go on waivers in the next few weeks as teams start setting up their opening night rosters. If we see any trades, I dont think it will be for a while.

And trading him may give you the opportunity to address other weaknesses on the team.
- VanHockeyGuy

His value is at an all-time low. This makes zero sense.

New on Boeser.

https://mynhltraderumors....lo-and-schenn/2019/09/16/

edit, not new.
- VanHockeyGuy

I hate the thought of bridge deals for young core players when major cap jumps are projected/imminent. Really hope they trade a higher hit for more term.

I'd take Goldy over Sven.
- A_SteamingLombardi

(frank) no. Goldy is a defensive nightmare and lacks finish. He can only play with EP.

Sven has proven he can play with other players not named Petey and has long term success with Bo.

Goldy on this team means the coach will be forced to play him to his only strength which so far has been not much of a strength at all and that is playing on EP's 1st line. That just wont do.... maybe while Brock isnt here but after that... he is a extra body if they plan on putting one of the new guys beside EP.

Sorry I don't buy that.

Pay him 6.5 for the next three years and you will probably see is a 30 goal scorer worth about 8 mil in 3 years
- VANTEL

I think part of his point, correct me if im wrong here, is that 8 million valuation now will be more in three years as the value of players keep going up. 30 goals is not very common. 30 goals/70points could be 10 mill by that time(hayes just got 7.5 for a 3c )

Are you keeping track of the $ being thrown around right now?

$6.5m now will have an $8m equivalence in 3yrs. No way that happens.
- DrChristianTroy

I am aware Tor has spent stupid money and Minny has spent stupid money. I also see Columbus SJ and Boston making very smart deals

I think part of his point, correct me if im wrong here, is that 8 million valuation now will be more in three years as the value of players keep going up. 30 goals is not very common. 30 goals/70points could be 10 mill by that time(hayes just got 7.5 for a 3c )
- neem55

Brock still has not hit 30 goals .

I get the thing about potential I just don't agree with it.

(frank) no. Goldy is a defensive nightmare and lacks finish. He can only play with EP.

Sven has proven he can play with other players not named Petey and has long term success with Bo.

Goldy on this team means the coach will be forced to play him to his only strength which so far has been not much of a strength at all and that is playing on EP's 1st line. That just wont do.... maybe while Brock isnt here but after that... he is a extra body if they plan on putting one of the new guys beside EP.
- boonerbuck

I’d be down to see baer and miller woth bo. As much as i like pearson, he’s not particularly fast and doesnt bring much to tahat line. Baer would add some punch imo. Etiher way ill be stoked to see how it shakes down.

If boeser holds out until december, maybe it’s for the best. After reading Bobby Mack’s draft preview, i wouldnt mind a top15/top10 pick one more time. Maybe not for the best, but there’s some silver lining.

Still need more depth on D, you know what happens every year.
- VanHockeyGuy

They've addressed D depth. Myers and Benn are quality NHLers and have a history of being durable. Quin Hughes is healthy and top 4. Fantenberg should be an upgrade for a 7th and they have other bodies... plus they have kids coming up like OJ.

I think they need GT depth. The top 2 are solid but the depth is thin if there are injuries.

I hate the thought of bridge deals for young core players when major cap jumps are projected/imminent. Really hope they trade a higher hit for more term.
- DrChristianTroy

gotta think the players and agents know how to better navigate the rfa system and probably push for moderate mid-length deals so they can cash in on a second deal. i can imagine the neogitation on value beyond 4-6 years is a tough one to compromise on

They've addressed D depth. Myers and Benn are quality NHLers and have a history of being durable. Quin Hughes is healthy and top 4. Fantenberg should be an upgrade for a 7th and they have other bodies... plus they have kids coming up like OJ.

I think they need GT depth. The top 2 are solid but the depth is thin if there are injuries.
- boonerbuck

Rafferty, brisebois and sautner were very good in their limited games last year as well. We didnt see enough of Teves but I remember thinking he held his own.

Rafferty, brisebois and sautner were very good in their limited games last year as well. We didnt see enough of Teves but I remember thinking he held his own.
- Codes1087

Brock still has not hit 30 goals .

I get the thing about potential I just don't agree with it.
- VANTEL

His goals per game, since entering in the league, is top 10 since joining the league (last 10 years). Missing time to injury is a factor in negotiations, but stats and goals/points per game are much more of a factor. Whether you believe he can be better, his current value is higher than 6-6.5 mil.

- boonerbuck

I think our two weakest links on D from last year are gone in Hutton and Gudbranson. A full season of Hughes will be the biggest improvement on D. I'm so excited to see what hughes can do.

gotta think the players and agents know how to better navigate the rfa system and probably push for moderate mid-length deals so they can cash in on a second deal. i can imagine the neogitation on value beyond 4-6 years is a tough one to compromise on
- johnnykarate

That’s why I’m okay paying a “premium” ($8m). I think that’d get it done long term & wind up being the bargain that allows us to keep this build together for multiple runs at the cup.