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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Sep 16 @ 9:54 AM ET
All I know is when we choose to have a kid play in the NHL instead of send them back down for 1 more year to Juniors (Nino, Bailey, Beauvillier, etc.). They seem to take a step back in their second year instead of continue to progress... where when we send a guy back down who already was dominant in juniors like Barzal they come back the following summer with a HUGE chip on their shoulder. ... Unless Dobson absolutely blows away the guys on the ice.. He should be sent back down. >> IMO.

any ramifications on status for expansion draft either way?

- niteislander


I think everyone's different. There's no hard rule. Tavares was an exceptional talent and definitely shouldn't have gone back to juniors. Nino clearly wasn't ready and should have, but for some absurd "I gave him my word" nonsense from Snow. Beau did quite well in his second year...21 goals and part of that great line with Barzal and Eberle...so the model needs some adjusting there.

The one thing I know is that Lou definitely has a long enough track record of erring on the side of over-seasoning when it comes to young talent, and I don't think he'd make an exception in this case when we're talking about a position where there's already plenty of talent and depth. If Dobson cracks the roster, it'll most likely be for the reason you mentioned (he makes a big enough impression on the ice) and more...he'd have shown he's mentally ready to be there.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Sep 16 @ 12:13 PM ET
I think everyone's different. There's no hard rule. Tavares was an exceptional talent and definitely shouldn't have gone back to juniors. Nino clearly wasn't ready and should have, but for some absurd "I gave him my word" nonsense from Snow. Beau did quite well in his second year...21 goals and part of that great line with Barzal and Eberle...so the model needs some adjusting there.

The one thing I know is that Lou definitely has a long enough track record of erring on the side of over-seasoning when it comes to young talent, and I don't think he'd make an exception in this case when we're talking about a position where there's already plenty of talent and depth. If Dobson cracks the roster, it'll most likely be for the reason you mentioned (he makes a big enough impression on the ice) and more...he'd have shown he's mentally ready to be there.

- UIF


agreed.. and I like that M.O. There is nothing wrong with these kids understanding how hard it is to make the NHL club. If he is sent back this year and then starts in the Bridge next year he will be hell bent when he finally gets a look (like Toews last year). I like that we have the depth and youth to have these kind of problems too. Aho would be getting a very real shot in most clubs but is a Looong shot to make this team.

I can't see Sbisa getting a contract as even an 8th depth guy with Hickey still on the roster.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
I am hoping they give him at least 3 extra games.
- JohnScammo



He's staying, He's the real deal! Thats what I read, so 82 games.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Sep 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
Well no one exciting playing tonight, was hoping to see Dobson play
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
Well no one exciting playing tonight, was hoping to see Dobson play
- Upstate_isles



koivula, Ho Sang and Bellows
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Sep 16 @ 7:44 PM ET
koivula, Ho Sang and Bellows
- kindlyrick

Games blacked out up here found it on msg go app at the end of 1st
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 16 @ 7:55 PM ET
Games blacked out up here found it on msg go app at the end of 1st
- Upstate_isles


I’m struggling to find a feed. Who scored the Islanders goal?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 7:58 PM ET
I’m struggling to find a feed. Who scored the Islanders goal?
- Wildschwein

Hickey

Hutton and St. Denis with the assists
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 16 @ 8:02 PM ET
Hickey

Hutton and St. Denis with the assists

- JohnScammo


Huh.

A veritable who’s who of current Islander greats.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 8:05 PM ET
Huh.

A veritable who’s who of current Islander greats.

- Wildschwein

Yes, their numbers are all but retired.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 8:06 PM ET
Flyers just scored. JVR
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 16 @ 8:07 PM ET
Flyers just scored. JVR
- JohnScammo


You’re doing a damn fine job John. 👍
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 8:11 PM ET
You’re doing a damn fine job John. 👍
- Wildschwein

It was between me and Keith Jones as to who would be paid for the color commentary. This time Jones got the gig....
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 16 @ 8:15 PM ET
It was between me and Keith Jones as to who would be paid for the color commentary. This time Jones got the gig....
- JohnScammo


Don’t worry John, I’ll have a word with Lou.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 8:22 PM ET
Don’t worry John, I’ll have a word with Lou.
- Wildschwein

Danke schoen. Meanwhile, there was an altercation between some Flyer and some Islander. I think the latter's name was Burroughs. It led to an Islander power play which looked as ineffective as a Scotty Gomez power play.

Edit: Btw, this is the Flyer feed coming in on MSG network. Not sure whom you need to talk to. Ron Hextall? Gritty???
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 8:30 PM ET
Gibson replaced Varlamov in goal. Isles just blew a nearly 2-minute 2-man advantage. A couple of guys with open nets couldn't finish.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 16 @ 8:36 PM ET
Danke schoen. Meanwhile, there was an altercation between some Flyer and some Islander. I think the latter's name was Burroughs. It led to an Islander power play which looked as ineffective as a Scotty Gomez power play.

Edit: Btw, this is the Flyer feed coming in on MSG network. Not sure whom you need to talk to. Ron Hextall? Gritty???

- JohnScammo


I'll take it up with Gritty. He and I both share a love of strong beer and hairy sows.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Sep 16 @ 8:36 PM ET
Gibson replaced Varlamov in goal. Isles just blew a nearly 2-minute 2-man advantage. A couple of guys with open nets couldn't finish.
- JohnScammo

Ho sang set up beau point blank
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 16 @ 8:37 PM ET
Gibson replaced Varlamov in goal. Isles just blew a nearly 2-minute 2-man advantage. A couple of guys with open nets couldn't finish.
- JohnScammo


Who's running the Islander power play this season?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 8:54 PM ET
Sbisa just scored. The Isles will sign him to a 5-year contract.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:54 PM ET
Who's running the Islander power play this season?
- Wildschwein


Cpt and JS
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:55 PM ET
Sbisa just scored. The Isles will sign him to a 5-year contract.
- JohnScammo



I hope Cpt watching Hickey and Sbisa his favorites scored
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 8:56 PM ET
Cpt and JS
- nyisles7

You promised you would help, too!
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
You promised you would help, too!
- JohnScammo





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JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 16 @ 9:21 PM ET




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