If we're talking hard line numbers, Nylander should be at 6, Marner at 9 and Matthews at 10. But the Leafs had to budge on these guys because of how important they are to the team. The Leafs are paying extra for future potential.

All the tough stuff is done with. Now they need Nylander to have a good year, move him for help on the blueline and start making Cup pushes.


- JohnFergusonJr

I would prefer they kept the cap hit, but added a year to all of their contracts. but yeah, I agree with those numbers.

Won't even touch the Nylander trade idea. Not against it, but I don't see it happening.
Dubas is going to push hard to sign Barrie and hope that between him and the kids in the pipe, we will have enough.

Part of the increase is his age. Marner isnt even in his prime and Tavares is. Yet both were as valuable and as good as the other. In 3-4 years marners contract will look like a steal compared to Tavares.
- Gunslinger

We’ll see is all either of us can say. Saying Marner will live up to it is just as reasonable as someone else saying he won’t. /shrug.

I would prefer they kept the cap hit, but added a year to all of their contracts. but yeah, I agree with those numbers.

Won't even touch the Nylander trade idea. Not against it, but I don't see it happening.
Dubas is going to push hard to sign Barrie and hope that between him and the kids in the pipe, we will have enough.
- UsernameUnknown

At this stage the leafs focus should be keeping Nylander and hoping by next season Sandin is the dman you would have traded Nylander for.

I would prefer they kept the cap hit, but added a year to all of their contracts. but yeah, I agree with those numbers.

Won't even touch the Nylander trade idea. Not against it, but I don't see it happening.
Dubas is going to push hard to sign Barrie and hope that between him and the kids in the pipe, we will have enough.
- UsernameUnknown

Nylander for Glendening. Make everyone happy.

We’ll see is all either of us can say. Saying Marner will live up to it is just as reasonable as someone else saying he won’t. /shrug.
- RafiDRW

Yea but its about the logic behind those conclusions.

I would prefer they kept the cap hit, but added a year to all of their contracts. but yeah, I agree with those numbers.

Won't even touch the Nylander trade idea. Not against it, but I don't see it happening.
Dubas is going to push hard to sign Barrie and hope that between him and the kids in the pipe, we will have enough.
- UsernameUnknown

I agree. I'd take all of them at their cap hits for max 8 year deals. But these guys want to be UFAs and come back to the table again ASAP. Especially if they win awards and/or Cups.

Barrie is going to want 8 and he's not worth it. Rielly will want the same or more and he will be worth it.

Interesting note from theScore; Drew Doughty doesn't seem happy in LA anymore. Said the team has been poop since they last won the Cup. He's basically wasted 4 years of his prime and maybe if they suck again this year he asks for a deal. Would you rather have Barrie at 8 or Doughty? Enter Nylander, plus some significant sweeteners and the Leafs might have the ingredients to make a serious move to fill the last hole on their team.

But not in our D-zone.
- JohnFergusonJr

(frank) off ya whiny, negative female genitalia.

Enjoy the signing.

I agree that it’s manageable. It’s not atrocious but it’s not a great signing either, by any measure. I don’t put a lot of faith into one season where you put JT onto his line and see a 25 point increase.

Let’s see if he can live up to it or has he handcuffed his team if he falls back down to earth. Is last season the norm or an anomaly.
- RafiDRW

JT is a a fantastic player, and I don't think he would be considered overrated as a player, but I think people overrate his contributions to Marners numbers. Did he help? For sure. But I think Marner got 25 points more because of the growth in his game. I watched way too many goals last year where Marner did all the work and all JT had to do was poke it into an empty net. Tavares can do that though, which was something Bozak never could.

Or traded for Tanev's jock strap
- winsix

(frank) yeah forgot about him. Tanev to the Leafs has beem imminent for 5 years now.

Yea but its about the logic behind those conclusions.
- Gunslinger

True enough. I just don’t know if I see him getting 110 points a season like some have been predicting.

But not in our D-zone.
- JohnFergusonJr

We’ll see is all either of us can say. Saying Marner will live up to it is just as reasonable as someone else saying he won’t. /shrug.
- RafiDRW

There's more evidence to suggest he does than he doesn't. It's not like he was a nobody, scored 20 points, then 90, then 30 and has been all over the map. His progression as a player since junior has been steady and fairly predictable. Even if JT is the reason he's scoring 90 points (he's not the sole reason but let's say he is for the sake of argument), JT is signed for 6 more years so if that chemistry continues, it's 6 more years of 90+ points as he enters his prime.

(frank) off ya whiny, negative female genitalia.

Enjoy the signing.
- .HOHO.

Take a joke you humorless female genitalia.

True enough. I just don’t know if I see him getting 110 points a season like some have been predicting.
- RafiDRW

Well he got 94 as a 21 year old... again hes not in his prime yet.

At this stage the leafs focus should be keeping Nylander and hoping by next season Sandin is the dman you would have traded Nylander for.
- Gunslinger

Yes. Plus one of Barrie or Muzzin. Honestly, the only important player I worry about losing due to CAP constraints is Andersen. I'm really curious to see how that will play out, when the time comes.

Not sure it made a lot of difference. What choice did Marner have?
- Canada Cup

Really? Since the leak not even a full week has gone by and all of a sudden he signs???

22 year old kid hearing all the hate...."(frank) this, I don't need and extra $500k and one less year. I'm signing."

Don't kid yourself, he could have held out. You could easily make the argument that his dad and agent probably wanted him to hold out longer.

Public opinion matters to some...ie: endorsements, etc.

Yes. Plus one of Barrie or Muzzin. Honestly, the only important player I worry about losing due to CAP constraints is Andersen. I'm really curious to see how that will play out, when the time comes.
- UsernameUnknown

Let's see how they do

There's more evidence to suggest he does than he doesn't. It's not like he was a nobody, scored 20 points, then 90, then 30 and has been all over the map. His progression as a player since junior has been steady and fairly predictable. Even if JT is the reason he's scoring 90 points (he's not the sole reason but let's say he is for the sake of argument), JT is signed for 6 more years so if that chemistry continues, it's 6 more years of 90+ points as he enters his prime.
- JohnFergusonJr

And that would be great if that progression continues. I hadn’t watched as many Leafs games last season as I did the last couple of years, so I may be out to lunch.

Nylander for Glendening. Make everyone happy.
- RafiDRW

Except Nylander. Who'd have to live in Detroit.

I agree. I'd take all of them at their cap hits for max 8 year deals. But these guys want to be UFAs and come back to the table again ASAP. Especially if they win awards and/or Cups.

Barrie is going to want 8 and he's not worth it. Rielly will want the same or more and he will be worth it.

Interesting note from theScore; Drew Doughty doesn't seem happy in LA anymore. Said the team has been poop since they last won the Cup. He's basically wasted 4 years of his prime and maybe if they suck again this year he asks for a deal. Would you rather have Barrie at 8 or Doughty? Enter Nylander, plus some significant sweeteners and the Leafs might have the ingredients to make a serious move to fill the last hole on their team.
- JohnFergusonJr

Doughty makes 11, but yeah between the two, Doughty is on a whole other level.

(frank) off ya whiny, negative fake female genitalia.

Enjoy the signing.
- .HOHO.

Well he got 94 as a 21 year old... again hes not in his prime yet.
- Gunslinger

Again, guess we’ll see. Don’t blame me for not wanting to jump the gun with saying he’ll be this and that.

And that would be great if that progression continues. I hadn’t watched as many Leafs games last season as I did the last couple of years, so I may be out to lunch.
- RafiDRW

I can't think of many 21 year olds who scored 94 points who fell off a cliff the rest of their career.

Again, guess we’ll see. Don’t blame me for not wanting to jump the gun with saying he’ll be this and that.
- RafiDRW

Fair enough

Except Nylander. Who'd have to live in Detroit.
- UsernameUnknown

Who wouldn’t want to live in a city with this?