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winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 13 @ 7:12 PM ET
Kind of my thought.
It sounds high, but I don't give too many (frank)s about CAP hit, as long as Dubby can ice a competitive team. If Marner signed a 4yr/15Mil contract, but they won the cup, I wouldn't give a single (frank).

- UsernameUnknown


According to Cap Friendly it's $10.893 AAV x 6

Edit
Sounds like the $10.5 per that was on the table since day one plus $393K per for butt hurt money for the missed bonus for daddy
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 13 @ 7:12 PM ET
Suck it komisaurus rex.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:12 PM ET
It’s hard to argue that Marner and his camp wasn’t being unreasonable. I like the player, not a fan of the contract. Is what it is.
- ClarksonDavid


Weren't there reports of him wanting a bridge deal with the last year having him make 15? That's why people got so out of hand and why I stayed away from here until he signed. I think Ferris is a (frank)ing knob, but I don't care. I'm really just glad he signed and didn't miss any games.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:13 PM ET
Eh. Too much in my opinion. At least he’s signed.
- RafiDRW


Not by much.

10.8 for 90+ points is pretty good value.

Then consider, he's signed from 22 to 28. Even if his prime years only see a 10-15 point per year increase, that's some solid value.

Would it have been nice to have Nylander, Matthews and Marner all signed for 1 million per year less each? Absolutely. But it's manageable.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 13 @ 7:13 PM ET
Suck it spatso.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 13 @ 7:13 PM ET
Did I miss anyone?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 13 @ 7:14 PM ET
Did I miss anyone?
- mykokes


suck it dreger
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:14 PM ET
Yes... finally can talk about the team again instead of this contract stuff.

Also I thought they only had 10.5 in cap space?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
Yes... finally can talk about the team again instead of this contract stuff.

Also I thought they only had 10.5 in cap space?

- bryant

Dermott and hyman ltir.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
Yes... finally can talk about the team again instead of this contract stuff.

Also I thought they only had 10.5 in cap space?

- bryant


LTIR + contracts that get sent to the Marlies. They have too many listed on CapFriendly and a lot of them are going to disappear after camp.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 13 @ 7:15 PM ET
Looks like the Leafs helped themselves by "LEAKING" the info about the June deal.

Fans, radio hosts..poop pretty much everyone...all took the hate to the next level. (Even me). The hometown kid had to make a deal or he was (frank)ed in this town.

Brilliant play by Leafs brass, no?

- underhill14


I agree. The team used court of public opinion and won.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
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Joined: 03.25.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:16 PM ET
Not by much.

10.8 for 90+ points is pretty good value.

Then consider, he's signed from 22 to 28. Even if his prime years only see a 10-15 point per year increase, that's some solid value.

Would it have been nice to have Nylander, Matthews and Marner all signed for 1 million per year less each? Absolutely. But it's manageable.

- JohnFergusonJr


I think it's still a tad too high, but it's definitely manageable, and that's good enough for me. I said the same thing with Matthews contract, though, and I still love him, too.
Anyone who holds a grudge over Marner for signing this contract is just pathetic.
justmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Sep 13 @ 7:17 PM ET
It’s hard to argue that Marner and his camp wasn’t being unreasonable. I like the player, not a fan of the contract. Is what it is.
- ClarksonDavid


It is high but we also bought 2 years of UFA and with it being 6 years his contract won't expire at the same time as AM34
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 13 @ 7:17 PM ET
Told ya he would sign
Too much

But whatever.

Stfu everyone
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:18 PM ET
I think it's still a tad too high, but it's definitely manageable, and that's good enough for me. I said the same thing with Matthews contract, though, and I still love him too.
Anyone who holds a grudge over Marner for signing this contract is just pathetic.

- UsernameUnknown


If we're talking hard line numbers, Nylander should be at 6, Marner at 9 and Matthews at 10. But the Leafs had to budge on these guys because of how important they are to the team. The Leafs are paying extra for future potential.

All the tough stuff is done with. Now they need Nylander to have a good year, move him for help on the blueline and start making Cup pushes.

RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
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Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 13 @ 7:18 PM ET
Not by much.

10.8 for 90+ points is pretty good value.

Then consider, he's signed from 22 to 28. Even if his prime years only see a 10-15 point per year increase, that's some solid value.

Would it have been nice to have Nylander, Matthews and Marner all signed for 1 million per year less each? Absolutely. But it's manageable.

- JohnFergusonJr

I agree that it’s manageable. It’s not atrocious but it’s not a great signing either, by any measure. I don’t put a lot of faith into one season where you put JT onto his line and see a 25 point increase.

Let’s see if he can live up to it or has he handcuffed his team if he falls back down to earth. Is last season the norm or an anomaly.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 13 @ 7:19 PM ET
Told ya he would sign
Too much

But whatever.

Stfu everyone

- Fakepartofme


Too much I agree but whatever. It's done. Our dislike for it wont change the team so we are stuck with it.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:20 PM ET
Yes... finally can talk about the team again instead of this contract stuff.

Also I thought they only had 10.5 in cap space?

- bryant

There's no (frank)ing way we can get Dermott signed.

He'll be offersheeted
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 13 @ 7:20 PM ET
Not by much.

10.8 for 90+ points is pretty good value.

Then consider, he's signed from 22 to 28. Even if his prime years only see a 10-15 point per year increase, that's some solid value.

Would it have been nice to have Nylander, Matthews and Marner all signed for 1 million per year less each? Absolutely. But it's manageable.

- JohnFergusonJr

Drop the puck.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 13 @ 7:20 PM ET
Looks like the Leafs helped themselves by "LEAKING" the info about the June deal.

Fans, radio hosts..poop pretty much everyone...all took the hate to the next level. (Even me). The hometown kid had to make a deal or he was (frank)ed in this town.

Brilliant play by Leafs brass, no?

- underhill14


Not sure it made a lot of difference. What choice did Marner have?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:20 PM ET
I agree that it’s manageable. It’s not atrocious but it’s not a great signing either, by any measure. I don’t put a lot of faith into one season where you put JT onto his line and see a 25 point increase.

Let’s see if he can live up to it or has he handcuffed his team if he falls back down to earth.

- RafiDRW


Kid has too much talent. People point at JT for the point increase but JT had a career year in goals too. And a good number of them were goals that Marner created for him.

Let's also remember, Marner at 19 and 20 had to carry Bozak and JVR on his back. Getting 60+ points out of that line isn't easy.

Matthews and Marner will deliver. Nylander is the question mark.
underhill14
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Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 13 @ 7:21 PM ET
Level of importance on the team:

1. Matthews
2. Tavares
3. Marner
4. Rielly

He got paid in line with AM and JT.

Now we can start the season with a full line up....couple of injuries to wait out, but close to full.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:21 PM ET
Drop the puck.
- Woderwick


But not in our D-zone.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 13 @ 7:21 PM ET
There's no (frank)ing way we can get Dermott signed.

He'll be offersheeted

- walshyleafsfan


Or traded for Tanev's jock strap
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Sep 13 @ 7:21 PM ET
I agree that it’s manageable. It’s not atrocious but it’s not a great signing either, by any measure. I don’t put a lot of faith into one season where you put JT onto his line and see a 25 point increase.

Let’s see if he can live up to it or has he handcuffed his team if he falls back down to earth. Is last season the norm or an anomaly.

- RafiDRW


Part of the increase is his age. Marner isnt even in his prime and Tavares is. Yet both were as valuable and as good as the other. In 3-4 years marners contract will look like a steal compared to Tavares.
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