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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
should have added "big guy."
- Ftown19125

I was referring to Lou Nolan after fans throwing bracelets on the ice 😬
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
Under Gordon, Lindblom was a PK regular, trusted late in close games and got himself to 17 goals (despite sparse PP time) by the end of the season; three things Brayden Schenn was not able to do under Lavy as an NHL rookie.
- bmeltzer

Oh my god! This doesn’t have anything to do with anything!!!

I didn’t bring up Brayden Schenn, that other guy did! On top of that, Brayden Schenn has been gone for two seasons!! Lindblom did not replace Schenn because they play two different roles and Schenn was long gone when Lindblom got here.

What am I walking into everyday???
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Sep 13 @ 4:23 PM ET
Oh my god! This doesn’t have anything to do with anything!!!

I didn’t bring up Brayden Schenn, that other guy did! On top of that, Brayden Schenn has been gone for two seasons!! Lindblom did not replace Schenn because they play two different roles and Schenn was long gone when Lindblom got here.

What am I walking into everyday???

- SuperSchennBros

kick em in the grill pete
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Sep 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
I was referring to Lou Nolan after fans throwing bracelets on the ice 😬
- hereticpride


ahhh sorry. completely missed it.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Sep 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
I wouldn't be penciling in Frost at Center so quickly. He hasn't played any pro hockey. If he makes the team I think he's going to start on the wing. That is unless he comes in and is dominant in the preseason. I don't see that happening.

More likely Rubstov to 4C. Laughton to 3C until Patrick can go.

- hereticpride


I also think Frost is better suited to play the wing in the Chel, think his skill set translates better. Who do you think would be his perfect pivot? I personally would love to see a line of Lindblom-Hayes-Frost.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 13 @ 4:25 PM ET
I was simply asking why you didn't account for Pronger's first 2 seasons. That was all. If that makes me a jerk, so be it.
- jmatchett383

Dude, you knew what I was trying to say. I did mention Hartford in previous posts. I apologize for not breaking down each player’s career in the number of posts I was responding to. The nitpicking was on your part.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Sep 13 @ 4:31 PM ET
So new coaches, new system and Patrick is going to miss training camp. He is one of the most important players to be at this camp and start the season well. This is really likely going to have him have a very poor start to season. Hell, he might as well holdout with TK for less money. At least he hasn’t earned much of a raise on his next deal.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Sep 13 @ 4:35 PM ET
I'm really not worried about a TK hold out. I'd rather he be here but we have options in the system.
- hereticpride


I'm not worried either but I'm not sure we know the options are going to be as good as TK.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 13 @ 4:37 PM ET
So new coaches, new system and Patrick is going to miss training camp. He is one of the most important players to be at this camp and start the season well. This is really likely going to have him have a very poor start to season. Hell, he might as well holdout with TK for less money. At least he hasn’t earned much of a raise on his next deal.
- Buzzo


Might be bad for Patrick, but could ultimately be better for the team. See what they have in Rubtsov, Frost, Vorobyev and or Farabee. Maybe those guys are all ready, and perform better than NP, opening up some trade possibilities.

I doubt TK misses any real games.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Sep 13 @ 4:37 PM ET


What am I walking into everyday???

- SuperSchennBros



This is what I ask my wife everyday after work.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
So new coaches, new system and Patrick is going to miss training camp. He is one of the most important players to be at this camp and start the season well. This is really likely going to have him have a very poor start to season. Hell, he might as well holdout with TK for less money. At least he hasn’t earned much of a raise on his next deal.
- Buzzo


He is only a 3rd line center
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 4:50 PM ET
I'm not worried either but I'm not sure we know the options are going to be as good as TK.
- Pelle31Forever

True but ultimately I just don't think TK is making or breaking the team.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 13 @ 4:58 PM ET
Oh my god! This doesn’t have anything to do with anything!!!

I didn’t bring up Brayden Schenn, that other guy did! On top of that, Brayden Schenn has been gone for two seasons!! Lindblom did not replace Schenn because they play two different roles and Schenn was long gone when Lindblom got here.

What am I walking into everyday???

- SuperSchennBros


Must be a full moon because I'm agreeing with you here big shooter
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Sep 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
True but ultimately I just don't think TK is making or breaking the team.
- hereticpride


while i dont think he is a make or break in what that exact definition is, i do think he is valuable in our lineup, and is really capable of getting better. As far as a comparable would go, I think he has the skill set to be another patrick kane light, almost like a patrick kane premium (corona premium). I can definitely envision TK being able to annually put up 25-30 goals and anywhere from 65-75 points a year, playing on the top line with linemates like G, Coots, etc, while also being given PP time. He isn't a defensive responsible player so to speak, but thats what coots is there for. Given the right usage I think he is very capable of doing that.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
It's been a while.
I read all 10 pages.
Nothing has changed here.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 13 @ 5:18 PM ET
It's been a while.
I read all 10 pages.
Nothing has changed here.

- Scoob


Death, taxes, and flyersbuzz being a poopshow
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Sep 13 @ 5:23 PM ET
It's been a while.
I read all 10 pages.
Nothing has changed here.

- Scoob


I have a few more gray hairs. So, there's that.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Sep 13 @ 5:24 PM ET
Without back reading, is Patrick’s injury the same that kept him out of the final games of last season? This situation is beginning to be concerning.
- Sinisalo4vr


Nah it’ll be fine fletcher said surgery wasn’t an option at this point. Hopefully he just toughs it out at 60% rather than get it fixed properly
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 13 @ 5:25 PM ET
haha the one "article" i saw on facebook was like "vigneault rips konecny" or something along those lines. then basically the quote was him just saying he was disappointed he's not at camp and doesn't want him to fall behind.
- Ftown19125


My takeaway from the quotes I've seen posted by Bill on the Twitter: AV is pissed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:28 PM ET
while i dont think he is a make or break in what that exact definition is, i do think he is valuable in our lineup, and is really capable of getting better. As far as a comparable would go, I think he has the skill set to be another patrick kane light, almost like a patrick kane premium (corona premium). I can definitely envision TK being able to annually put up 25-30 goals and anywhere from 65-75 points a year, playing on the top line with linemates like G, Coots, etc, while also being given PP time. He isn't a defensive responsible player so to speak, but thats what coots is there for. Given the right usage I think he is very capable of doing that.
- sjk540


Usage is the key word there. Without PP1 time, it will be difficult for Konecny to get to that 75 point range.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:36 PM ET
Oh seriously guys. Just ignore each other. The talk is about the hockey not about each other and you'll keep mods out and other posters in. Easy Schmeasy.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Sep 13 @ 5:37 PM ET
Farabee taking reps with Couts and G

Rafcliffe and Frost with Jake

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:38 PM ET
whats there to take notice of?
- daryl stanley

the comment
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:39 PM ET
Sounds like TK will be in the doghouse all year, Vigneault is disappointed
- ClaudeFather

something something vinnegar isn't good with young players
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 13 @ 5:41 PM ET
Oh seriously guys. Just ignore each other. The talk is about the hockey not about each other and you'll keep mods out and other posters in. Easy Schmeasy.
- bodiva88

i think they enjoy it
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