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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:16 PM ET
IMO, a parent's job is to raise their kids to be independent.

Providing advice is great. Establishing a relationship that your kids openly come to you for advice is great.

My advice to my kids as they get older will be too make sure they ask good questions and ultimately get what they want; i won't be making decisions for them.

It's obvious p.marner is a pathetic piece of poop bully; not a parent. Unfortunately, marner is still a child that can't make decisions for himself, despite being a grown ass man.

- Tumbleweed

Yes to all of this. And it should be obvious to most...

And for the last sentence; you lot obviously knows more than most
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:23 PM ET
Yes to all of this. And it should be obvious to most...

And for the last sentence; you lot obviously knows more than most

- 21peter


Marner for kakkkko, skeji, 1st and m.staal
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:25 PM ET
C'mon!

Anthiousou

Andreescu

That's funny....no?

- Woderwick


Reider
S.bennet

Plays the exact same cards; on the 1st contract.

2nd contracts were quiet and quick.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:26 PM ET
Hes an idiot.
- systemtool


21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:26 PM ET
Marner for kakkkko, skeji, 1st and m.staal
- Tumbleweed

Marner, Rielly and a 4th for Kakko, Marc Staal and a 3rd
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:28 PM ET
Anyone who knows Paul or has a kid play hockey in the same age group knows how (frank)ed he is

A friend of mine had a kid who played with Marner for a few years. Another that had a kid that would play against him. He was the type of parent back in the day that would yell at other parents and their kids.

And he makes fake twitter accounts to argue with 12 year olds on if Mitch is better than McDavid.

- Santo_44


That's factual and also pathetic.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:29 PM ET
Marner, Rielly and a 4th for Kakko, Marc Staal and a 3rd
- 21peter


I got Kakko in my draft tonight.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:31 PM ET
I got Kakko in my draft tonight.
- GreatGigInTheSky

He looks like elite+ but who knows...?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 12 @ 11:33 PM ET
My dad was my coach for a good part of my minor hockey life. No tougher coach in all of my playing career. Guy was an ass...lol. Best dad ever, though.

My daughters at an age where I cannot offer unsolicited advice - if I do, it just pushes her away. I have to wait for her to come to me, and bite my tongue until she does.

- Woderwick


I have a 16 yr old too.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:34 PM ET
Dubas should tell Mitch that Paul can’t come on the next fathers trip. That’ll teach em’
- bryant


He was already pissed that they took the moms on the trip last season.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 12 @ 11:40 PM ET
Cam Newton might be the most overrated player in any sport.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:43 PM ET
El Capto!


- GreatGigInTheSky


You see the video Leafs posted on social media of Training Camp?

The quick glimpse of Matthews staring into the camera with that beautiful stache was (frank)ing awesome lmao. If you haven't seen it, its defintely worth checking out.

Edit: Here is the link

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1172292748780740608
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:43 PM ET
I have a 16 yr old too.
- The Law


https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1154041575002869761

I am too drunk to make sense of this....but i think it means nylander's caphit of ~10 last year was actually the number to get to 6.9 for the year.

But because of ltir, if marner signs during the year, marner's gross prorated caphit cannot be > total ltir space of ~10.5m

What's the final word, john roberts?

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:47 PM ET
He looks like elite+ but who knows...?
- 21peter


I got him in the 14th round.

And I agree. He looks incredible.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:48 PM ET
You see the video Leafs posted on social media of Training Camp?

The quick glimpse of Matthews staring into the camera with that beautiful stache was (frank)ing awesome lmao. If you haven't seen it, its defintely worth checking out.

- LeafGuy89


I didn't, no. I gotta check that poop out.

El Capto my Capto!
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:49 PM ET
I didn't, no. I gotta check that poop out.

El Capto my Capto!

- GreatGigInTheSky


I posted the link in my edit

It's gold
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 11:51 PM ET
I posted the link in my edit

It's gold

- LeafGuy89


I just seen't it.

(frank), it felt like he was staring into my soul.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 11:52 PM ET
Pretty cool new band with an oldies sound if anyone’s interested - Twin Peaks

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 11:55 PM ET
[quote=RickJames77]Pretty cool new band with an oldies sound - Twin Peaks
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 12:05 AM ET
That's factual and also pathetic.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Funny thing about "facts" is that they need to be proven...
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 13 @ 12:07 AM ET
https://mobile.twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1154041575002869761

I am too drunk to make sense of this....but i think it means nylander's caphit of ~10 last year was actually the number to get to 6.9 for the year.

But because of ltir, if marner signs during the year, marner's gross prorated caphit cannot be > total ltir space of ~10.5m

What's the final word, john roberts?

- Tumbleweed


Right. The principal factors are term, cost, and date of signing. I have a spreadsheet on my work PC that I was toying with - but the numbers are fairly drastic fairly quick. For instance, it was something like a $1m difference after 2 weeks (meaning if you signed him at $9.5, it would be a $10.5m hit in year 1, and a $9.2m hit in subsequent years). I'd have to plop the numbers in it again to be sure, but it was roughly something like that.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 12:13 AM ET
https://mobile.twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1154041575002869761

I am too drunk to make sense of this....but i think it means nylander's caphit of ~10 last year was actually the number to get to 6.9 for the year.

But because of ltir, if marner signs during the year, marner's gross prorated caphit cannot be > total ltir space of ~10.5m

What's the final word, john roberts?

- Tumbleweed


Love me some smart Irish lawyers.

It basically means that every day after Oct 2 the amount that MM eventually signs for becomes a larger cap hit. I think given the Leafs situation with LTIR, their cap space available and the need to have a bit of space for injuries/trades that it means both sides know that the potential to get a deal shrinks after Oct 2.

I'd only add that for MM's side he wants a short deal (smaller AAV) so he may not blink. The option of longer term deals will be the first to die.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 13 @ 12:19 AM ET
Funny thing about "facts" is that they need to be proven...
- JohnFergusonJr

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 13 @ 12:21 AM ET
Funny thing about "facts" is that they need to be proven...
- JohnFergusonJr


I can't be (frank)ed to go look it up but there was a guy who outed Paul, and Paul was none too pleased about it all.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 12:21 AM ET
Right. The principal factors are term, cost, and date of signing. I have a spreadsheet on my work PC that I was toying with - but the numbers are fairly drastic fairly quick. For instance, it was something like a $1m difference after 2 weeks (meaning if you signed him at $9.5, it would be a $10.5m hit in year 1, and a $9.2m hit in subsequent years). I'd have to plop the numbers in it again to be sure, but it was roughly something like that.
- Monkeypunk


That's interesting stuff. Leafs seem to have about 10.5 so if hypothetically MM wants nothing less than 3 x 9 his camp will know that the Leafs will have trouble offering that after about 3 weeks into the season.
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