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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
How's this place goning for ya!!!
- burn



Is the overdrive crew would say...ssstrrruuugggllllingggg
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:44 PM ET
The problem here is yes a parents advice is valuable when you're explaining to your child that maybe 3k a year raise is good but maybe not worth leaving a happy and comfortable situation you're in now (for example)

Its alot different if you're telling your son youre better than 77 million in 7 years to play hockey, making you one of the highest paid contracts in the sports history, playing in the city you grew up in unlike most nhlers.

- systemtool

well, it's still your son - and if he wants your opinion and advice...
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:45 PM ET
Maybe the final year salary for the QO was the gang up? Just speculating.
- RickJames77


That was what Dreger told us.

12 Milly on yr 3.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:47 PM ET
well, it's still your son - and if he wants your opinion and advice...
- 21peter


Agreed. I'd tell him you're one of the highest paid players in the league. And if youre happy playing for the team sign the deal.

If he he plans to play in Switzerland and gets injured...leverage gone. Whether my son gets 11million over 7 years or 12 million over 5 years, I'll sleep well at night knowing my son will be set for life financially.

As a father I'd be more worried at this point not how much he makes ,cause I know he'll make millions, but whether he gets into drugs, gambling etc.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:47 PM ET
well, it's still your son - and if he wants your opinion and advice...
- 21peter



Agian opinion and advice is a lot differnt then filling his head with bullpoop. If he's telling his son not to take 11x7 than he's an idiot, and if his son is buying that then he's an idiot too.

cntpnt89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 06.25.2012

Sep 12 @ 9:47 PM ET
Hey random question but got tickets for the hamilton bulldogs vs guelph storm tomorrow.....anyone of significance to watch for?
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:49 PM ET
Hey random question but got tickets for the hamilton bulldogs vs guelph storm tomorrow.....anyone of significance to watch for?
- cntpnt89

I got this buddy named hockey db. He knows every player on every team. You should ask him.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:51 PM ET
Agian opinion and advice is a lot differnt then filling his head with bullpoop. If he's telling his son not to take 11x7 than he's an idiot, and if his son is buying that then he's an idiot too.
- burn

yeah, I know the Toronto media machine tells us what has happened thus far.

If that's how it is? Knowing the media industry a bit I always say 50/50.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:53 PM ET
Ah, you are one of those types



He’s not saying he should give no opinion

He is saying you can’t take control

- Santo_44

Makes your age shrink instantly to 14
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 9:53 PM ET
Hey random question but got tickets for the hamilton bulldogs vs guelph storm tomorrow.....anyone of significance to watch for?
- cntpnt89

Arthur Kaliyev for Hamilton
Edit: Nick Suzuki, Ryan Merkelyi still play for Guelph?
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 12 @ 9:53 PM ET
Hey random question but got tickets for the hamilton bulldogs vs guelph storm tomorrow.....anyone of significance to watch for?
- cntpnt89

That Skoal guy...no...wait...he's in the big show.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:54 PM ET
Hey random question but got tickets for the hamilton bulldogs vs guelph storm tomorrow.....anyone of significance to watch for?
- cntpnt89



Hamiltons kaliyev was 2nd round pick this summer and scored 50 goals last year.

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 12 @ 9:55 PM ET
well, it's still your son - and if he wants your opinion and advice...
- 21peter


Nothing wrong with opinion and advice from parents. In fact I'd be pissed if I didn't get advice from mine ...and my kids seem to like mine.

The smoke up here (and there is a lot of it) is that Paul Marner has an extensive history of being the operating mind in his son's life.

I have no personal knowledge but we're all 1 or 2 Kevin Bacons away from a bad Paul Marner hockey-dad story.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:56 PM ET
Provorov signed 6 years

Guys, let’s maybe not critique parenting when we know nothing of someone’s circumstances. I’ll stay out of it from here on out.

- RickJames77


Anyone who knows Paul or has a kid play hockey in the same age group knows how (frank)ed he is

A friend of mine had a kid who played with Marner for a few years. Another that had a kid that would play against him. He was the type of parent back in the day that would yell at other parents and their kids.

And he makes fake twitter accounts to argue with 12 year olds on if Mitch is better than McDavid.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
Nothing wrong with opinion and advice from parents. In fact I'd be pissed if I didn't get advice from mine ...and my kids seem to like mine.

The smoke up here (and there is a lot of it) is that Paul Marner has an extensive history of being the operating mind in his son's life.

I have no personal knowledge but we're all 1 or 2 Kevin Bacons away from a bad Paul Marner hockey-dad story.

- The Law

noice
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
Nothing wrong with opinion and advice from parents. In fact I'd be pissed if I didn't get advice from mine ...and my kids seem to like mine.

The smoke up here (and there is a lot of it) is that Paul Marner has an extensive history of being the operating mind in his son's life.

I have no personal knowledge but we're all 1 or 2 Kevin Bacons away from a bad Paul Marner hockey-dad story.

- The Law

My dad was my coach for a good part of my minor hockey life. No tougher coach in all of my playing career. Guy was an ass...lol. Best dad ever, though.

My daughters at an age where I cannot offer unsolicited advice - if I do, it just pushes her away. I have to wait for her to come to me, and bite my tongue until she does.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 10:04 PM ET
Nothing wrong with opinion and advice from parents. In fact I'd be pissed if I didn't get advice from mine ...and my kids seem to like mine.

The smoke up here (and there is a lot of it) is that Paul Marner has an extensive history of being the operating mind in his son's life.

I have no personal knowledge but we're all 1 or 2 Kevin Bacons away from a bad Paul Marner hockey-dad story.

- The Law



RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 12 @ 10:06 PM ET
I think that Andreas anthiousou or however you spell it was one. Correct me if I'm wrong but he held out and went to Europe at the start of a season... then caved and came back
- Bleedz_Blue

Yeah. Can’t wait for part two of that next summer.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:08 PM ET
Yeah. Can’t wait for part two of that next summer.
- RafiDRW



I didnt mind. Rather enjoyed her beating Williams.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 12 @ 10:09 PM ET
Nothing wrong with opinion and advice from parents. In fact I'd be pissed if I didn't get advice from mine ...and my kids seem to like mine.

The smoke up here (and there is a lot of it) is that Paul Marner has an extensive history of being the operating mind in his son's life.

I have no personal knowledge but we're all 1 or 2 Kevin Bacons away from a bad Paul Marner hockey-dad story.

- The Law


Advice is different from controlling.

The thing about advice is as a parent you could be completely wrong but at least the kid has the choice to figure it out for themself.

But choosing for them or guilting them
into something is always a bad idea. You could be very wrong and you don’t want your child to resent you for making them choose the wrong decision.

Also when they are above 20 it’s their (frank)ing life, just hope you raised them well
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 10:10 PM ET
Yeah. Can’t wait for part two of that next summer.
- RafiDRW

It went on similar to this debacle?
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 12 @ 10:12 PM ET
I didnt mind. Rather enjoyed her beating Williams.
- systemtool

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 10:14 PM ET
Advice is different from controlling.

The thing about advice is as a parent you could be completely wrong but at least the kid has the choice to figure it out for themself.

But choosing for them or guilting them
into something is always a bad idea. You could be very wrong and you don’t want your child to resent you for making them choose the wrong decision.

Also when they are above 20 it’s their (frank)ing life, just hope you raised them well

- Santo_44

I'm just guessing, but I'd say you're not a parent. And probably not that well educated either
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 12 @ 10:14 PM ET
It went on similar to this debacle?
- 21peter

The whole AA mess a year or two ago. Held out until hour 13 and the season started without him. Wings fans kind of turned on him for a hot minute until he started to really put up points. That was the only thing that saved his PR.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 12 @ 10:14 PM ET

- RafiDRW

C'mon!

Anthiousou

Andreescu

That's funny....no?
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