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LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Sep 12 @ 8:47 PM ET
Mitch is 20. Relax.
- JohnFergusonJr


That is irrelevant
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 12 @ 8:48 PM ET
Interesting.
Got any examples?

- 21peter


Fergy sent a link ...Athanasiou ...and Josh Anderson were two. Basically he has 5 NHL clients. Mitch is the 5th ...the other 4 all followed a distinct script. Hold hard then cave at or just after the deadline.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:48 PM ET
And?

He has an agent, that's what he's being paid for. His father should have nothing to say about it. Sounds like his father is feeding him terrible infomation ie the nonsense about being made whole from missed elc bonuses and all that bullpoop.

And he's 22.

- burn


And who do you think raised him? Brought him to every practice? Bought all his gear and paid for his registration?

If you people think he's going to make this decision without his parents, you're insane.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 12 @ 8:48 PM ET
Paul should have NO control. I'd tell my dad to sit down and shut up, it's my career not his, pretty simple really

He knows damn well he will be living happy the rest of his life regardless.

- LeafGuy89


You seem the way that Paul talked to him when he was 12? There may be a power-parent/child dynamic there that we're not exposed to...
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:49 PM ET
That is irrelevant
- LeafGuy89


It's definitely relevant.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 8:55 PM ET
I think that Andreas anthiousou or however you spell it was one. Correct me if I'm wrong but he held out and went to Europe at the start of a season... then caved and came back
- Bleedz_Blue

Thx!
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 12 @ 8:56 PM ET
You seem the way that Paul talked to him when he was 12? There may be a power-parent/child dynamic there that we're not exposed to...
- TheMussel

Yeah his dad is a jagoff.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 12 @ 8:59 PM ET
Thanks! the first agenda I would do as GM is jam your pink socks down your throat. Then we'll see who would be STFU
- hotshotbeer

Wait a sec...this post has a familiar tone to it. Skoal, is that you again, in yet another disguise?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:00 PM ET
And who do you think raised him? Brought him to every practice? Bought all his gear and paid for his registration?

If you people think he's going to make this decision without his parents, you're insane.

- JohnFergusonJr



There is a difference between making decisions with parents and letting them run your career.

Agents know the cba, they know how to negotiate. Parents emotional. Players are best to let their agents handle the work.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:00 PM ET
And who do you think raised him? Brought him to every practice? Bought all his gear and paid for his registration?

If you people think he's going to make this decision without his parents, you're insane.

- JohnFergusonJr



He needs to take control of his life. Meddling parents can sometimes be more about themselves than about their child. Ask jack Johnson.

At 22 years old you dont need your parents to tell you that 11 million a year over 7 years to play hockey is an amazing situation and ranks you along the highest paid in the league.

But you're right..he needs his parents to remind him how awful his life would be if he signs that contract.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:04 PM ET
There is a difference between making decisions with parents and letting them run your career.

Agents know the cba, they know how to negotiate. Parents emotional. Players are best to let their agents handle the work.

- burn


Does he not have an agent? Is Paul talking to Dubas?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:05 PM ET
He needs to take control of his life. Meddling parents can sometimes be more about themselves than about their child. Ask jack Johnson.

At 22 years old you dont need your parents to tell you that 11 million a year over 7 years to play hockey is an amazing situation and ranks you along the highest paid in the league.

But you're right..his needs his parents to remind how awful his life would be if he signs that contract.

- systemtool


It's a good thing I never said that.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:06 PM ET
Fergy sent a link ...Athanasiou ...and Josh Anderson were two. Basically he has 5 NHL clients. Mitch is the 5th ...the other 4 all followed a distinct script. Hold hard then cave at or just after the deadline.
- The Law

Well, Josh Anderson isn't the smallest of potatoes...

yeah, following a certain script could be great - as long as your opponent doesn't know about it. I strongly doubt this agent is that kinda simple-minded
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:12 PM ET
It's a good thing I never said that.
- JohnFergusonJr


Regardless of who says it hes getting bad advice.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:13 PM ET
And who do you think raised him? Brought him to every practice? Bought all his gear and paid for his registration?

If you people think he's going to make this decision without his parents, you're insane.

- JohnFergusonJr


How old are you ?

Yes, your parents can help you with a decision but at his age he’s on his own. If his father is guilting him into listening to him he’s a pretty bad father.

Every parent makes sacrifices and you don’t ask for anything in return.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 9:14 PM ET
Regardless of who says it hes getting bad advice.
- systemtool

3 years 8m AAV, 10.5M salary final season. Something like that, get it done.

It’s more than fair IMO
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 12 @ 9:15 PM ET
Regardless of who says it hes getting bad advice.
- systemtool


You haven't got a clue what advice he is or isn't getting or who he is getting it from.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:15 PM ET
You haven't got a clue what advice he is or isn't getting or who he is getting it from.
- JohnFergusonJr


If he turned down 11 million for 7 years, I dont need to know the details just the bottom line.

Then again you're the twat who acts like he knows everything so this just got rather ironic.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 12 @ 9:16 PM ET
You haven't got a clue what advice he is or isn't getting or who he is getting it from.
- JohnFergusonJr

I’d imagine it’s coming from his camp....it’s a very safe educated guess...hmm who might that be ? Santa Claus?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:17 PM ET
Does he not have an agent? Is Paul talking to Dubas?
- JohnFergusonJr



I just finished saying he should be listening to his agent and you argued he should be listening to his parents cause he's 20 (no he's 22 actually) and they paid for his hockey and raised him...... Then you turn around and say doesn't he have an agent.

This place
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:17 PM ET
I’d imagine it’s coming from his camp....it’s a very safe educated guess...hmm who might that be ? Santa Claus?
- Santo_44



😂
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:18 PM ET
You haven't got a clue what advice he is or isn't getting or who he is getting it from.
- JohnFergusonJr



If he turned down 11 mil for 7 or 8 years he's getting horrendous advice and it doesn't matter who it's coming from.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 9:18 PM ET
I’d imagine it’s coming from his camp....it’s a very safe educated guess...hmm who might that be ? Santa Claus?
- Santo_44



systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 12 @ 9:19 PM ET
If he turned down 11 mil for 7 or 8 years he's getting horrendous advice and it doesn't matter who it's coming from.
- burn



But hes listening to his parents! I mean...who says he's listening to anyone!?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 9:19 PM ET
I just finished saying he should be listening to his agent and you argued he should be listening to his parents cause he's 20 (no he's 22 actually) and they paid for his hockey and raised him...... Then you turn around and say doesn't he have an agent.

This place

- burn
imagine how disingenuous of a parent you have to be to hold over your son’s head all of the sacrifices you made, both financially and time wise, in order for his dream to come true.

Not saying this is happening, just rumors, but still
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