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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
oh
- senstroll

I don't want Marner on the team anymore.

Dubas should say no to any deal.

Have him sit.

Have him beg to play for minimum.

I hate his dog.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Sep 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
Honka wants out of dallas according to Friedman
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
A 3C is exactly what the leafs should trade Marner for.
- ClarksonDavid[/quote

Agree, lets trade him for a 26 year old plug that has the potential to score 16 goals
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Sep 13 @ 10:23 AM ET
oh
- senstroll

Maybe that leak of the negotiation has scared marner. Doesn’t wanted to look like a spoiled brat.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 13 @ 10:23 AM ET
Honka wants out of dallas according to Friedman
- bryant


Johnny's smiling down
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 13 @ 10:23 AM ET
That Provorov deal looks quite nice for the Flyers imo.
- Scabeh

Who is that? Do you mean Proovrov?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
Honka wants out of dallas according to Friedman
- bryant

Does he want a nicer AHL affiliate to struggle with? Maybe someplace less warm?
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 13 @ 10:27 AM ET
A 3C is exactly what the leafs should trade Marner for.
- ClarksonDavid

3C, LW/RW and RHD
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 13 @ 10:28 AM ET
Does he want a nicer AHL affiliate to struggle with? Maybe someplace less warm?
- AdamFrench


Yes and yes.

Gauthier and a case of Creemore going the other way.

He can live in the Coca-Cola coliseum equipment closet.

Win-win-win all round.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
The LTIR aspect of this seems to be a red herring. Basically the LTIR is nothing more than the cap flexibility we accrue through the placement of players on LTIR. It doesn't affect the way the cap hit of Marner's contract is calculated (which I've seen inferred on other posts).

But the article is bang on. If Marner wants that $9m x 3 bridge deal and we have roughly 10.5m available in space, November 7th is the drop-dead date; it doesn't really do us any favours either by inflating the $9m hit to $10.5 in year 1, and dropping it to $8.4 in years 2 & 3.

- Monkeypunk


The Capfriendly post from last night seemed to suggest the difference was that non-ltir cap hit (eg. nylander's 10.3) would be prorated to the portion of the season that he was on the active roster. So 10.3 was his "full season" cap hit but his actual cap hit for the days he was active was prorated down to 7ish.

If the Leafs are using LTIR then the article suggests that the inflated first year number will not get prorated. So if they had done that last year Nylander's full 10.3 would have counted regardless of when he actually became active.

Incorrect?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
Yes and yes.

Gauthier and a case of Creemore going the other way.

He can live in the Coca-Cola coliseum equipment closet.

Win-win-win all round.

- TheMussel

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 13 @ 10:30 AM ET
I don't want Marner on the team anymore.

Dubas should say no to any deal.

Have him sit.

Have him beg to play for minimum.

I hate his dog.

- Atomic Wedgie


I have been giving him the cold shoulder, but one pretty dangle and I will come running back
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 10:35 AM ET
I have been giving him the cold shoulder, but one pretty dangle and I will come running back
- senstroll


Meow !!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 13 @ 10:37 AM ET
Yes and yes.

Gauthier and a case of Creemore going the other way.

He can live in the Coca-Cola coliseum equipment closet.

Win-win-win all round.

- TheMussel

If you've ever been in the dressing rooms there, you'll know that living in a closet there will have him on the LTIR with a concussion in about 2 days.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 13 @ 10:38 AM ET
The Capfriendly post from last night seemed to suggest the difference was that non-ltir cap hit (eg. nylander's 10.3) would be prorated to the portion of the season that he was on the active roster. So 10.3 was his "full season" cap hit but his actual cap hit for the days he was active was prorated down to 7ish.

If the Leafs are using LTIR then the article suggests that the inflated first year number will not get prorated. So if they had done that last year Nylander's full 10.3 would have counted regardless of when he actually became active.

Incorrect?

- The Law

Ummmm...

I like beer.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 10:39 AM ET
Ummmm...

I like beer.

- Atomic Wedgie


Correct.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 13 @ 10:40 AM ET
oh
- senstroll

The maple leafs plan seems to have worked.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 13 @ 10:40 AM ET
Ummmm...

I like beer.

- Atomic Wedgie


The pub near me has Wellington SPA on tap. I'm very happy about that.

Their suicide wings don't make me want to kill myself though, which is a little disappointing.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 13 @ 10:42 AM ET
The pub near me has Wellington SPA on tap. I'm very happy about that.

Their suicide wings don't make me want to kill myself though, which is a little disappointing.

- TheMussel

I honestly don't have a favourite beer.

I go to a pub.

I look at the beer menu.

I order something.

I usually like it.

God bless RJ and his hobby of mailing beers around North America, but I'm really fine just ordering something and then drinking it.

Truth is, every bar now has something good on tap.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 10:46 AM ET
Honka wants out of dallas according to Friedman
- bryant

What's a Honka?

He seems loke one of those players where people still hold out hope, but it just never comes.

Like Yakupov, Puljajarvi, and the Montreal Canadians
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
So question for all of you on a Friday morning:

Pretend that Mitchy signs today - at a semi-reasonable rate. One where the fans are happy, the Leafs are happy, everyone is forgiven.

If you are the head of marketing for the XYZ Company, do you want Marnsie or Mattsie as your spokesperson?

I'm kinda leaning towards Marnsie. Local kid. Boyish charm. Maybe a little bit more personality.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
3C, LW/RW and RHD
- mr.sir

The Travis Yost special.

We could've had all that had we traded Matthews
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
The Capfriendly post from last night seemed to suggest the difference was that non-ltir cap hit (eg. nylander's 10.3) would be prorated to the portion of the season that he was on the active roster. So 10.3 was his "full season" cap hit but his actual cap hit for the days he was active was prorated down to 7ish.

If the Leafs are using LTIR then the article suggests that the inflated first year number will not get prorated. So if they had done that last year Nylander's full 10.3 would have counted regardless of when he actually became active.

Incorrect?

- The Law


that's how i read mirtle's article.

interesting on the offer sheet - it doesn't get prorated to us if he it signs one mid-season that we match.

not that you plan for it - but with gm's like bergevin pulling bergevins; it's not 100% out of the question.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 13 @ 10:48 AM ET
I have been giving him the cold shoulder, but one pretty dangle and I will come running back
- senstroll

Pretty much goes for all of leaf nation.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
So question for all of you on a Friday morning:

Pretend that Mitchy signs today - at a semi-reasonable rate. One where the fans are happy, the Leafs are happy, everyone is forgiven.

If you are the head of marketing for the XYZ Company, do you want Marnsie or Mattsie as your spokesperson?

I'm kinda leaning towards Marnsie. Local kid. Boyish charm. Maybe a little bit more personality.

- Atomic Wedgie


most are fickle like and me and will welcome and him back

but you make a good point - he his potentially damaging his name for future sponsorship deals over nickel and diming the leafs.
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