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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 13 @ 11:02 AM ET
We may have to start the season wo BB. That would change those lines considerably
- SMBDragon

Plus the 'I told you so's' from #teamwhiner.



#capissues
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 13 @ 11:03 AM ET
Jake said last week no one is stealing his spot.
- VANTEL

At A&W?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:03 AM ET
I have his line pencilled in for 45-50 goals.
- Reubenkincade

What did they get last season?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:04 AM ET
At A&W?
- LordHumungous

First in line at the hot dog cart. He's a wiener guy remember.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
First in line at the hot dog cart. He's a wiener guy remember.
- manvanfan

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
What did they get last season?
- manvanfan


2 of my projected 3rd line guys, only played 26 games apiece, so 52 games and 13 goals, the other, played 70 games and had 15 goals, so 28 goals in122 games, which works out to 56 goals, pro-rated.
The other player that I believe will spend time on the 3rd line, had 14 goals in 76 games.
Sven Sutter Jake and with Leivo rotating in, will make up the 3rd line, with some occasional line shuffling. imo
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
Just to recap the RFA's so far
Meier 4 years 6 AAV
Werenseki 3 years 5 AAV
Provorov 6 years 6.75 AAV
Morrissey 8 years 6.25 AAV
Kevin Fiala 2 years 3 AAV
Pavel Zacha 3 years 2.25 AAV
Adrian Kempe 3 years 2 AAV
Pavel Buchnevich 2 years 3.25 AAV
23 year old Sam Bennett 2 years 2.55 AAV
Samuel Girard 7 years 5 AAV

- manvanfan


18 Year old Sam Bennett would have been worth > 6 AAV
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
At A&W?
- LordHumungous


tee-hee.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 13 @ 11:35 AM ET
Have a feeling he will be back, early November.
- Reubenkincade


He'll be on the shelf until they don't his LTIR money for cap space. Waiting for another long term injury or trade to make space for him.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:36 AM ET
2 of my projected 3rd line guys, only played 26 games apiece, so 52 games and 13 goals, the other, played 70 games and had 15 goals, so 28 goals in122 games, which works out to 56 goals, pro-rated.
The other player that I believe will spend time on the 3rd line, had 14 goals in 76 games.
Sven Sutter Jake and with Leivo rotating in, will make up the 3rd line, with some occasional line shuffling. imo

- Reubenkincade

So 15 each for the rotation sounds about right on what a decent 3rd line should get.


If the first line scores a goal a game.
second line scores around .7 goals per game.
third line scores .5 goal per game
fourth line chips in with .3 goals per game.
That's 2.5 goals per game but obviously some games are going to be more or less. If your top 2 lines can score a goal each per game, bottom 2 lines only need to chip in 1.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
18 Year old Sam Bennett would have been worth > 6 AAV
- YeOldTimer

Easily. He should have cashed in when he could.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:40 AM ET
Dach is in the concussion protocol and will not be in the Blackhawks lineup when they start their exhibition schedule.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
The rest of the Euro leagues are now up and running.

Karel Plasek is listed as the 13th forward for Brno today

Toni Utunen seems to be scratched or injured. Not playing either way

Tree has 2 points in 5 games

Podkolzin and SKA player later today.

Manuykan has yet to suit up this season for Bob Hartley.

SHL hasn't started yet.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
So 15 each for the rotation sounds about right on what a decent 3rd line should get.


If the first line scores a goal a game.
second line scores around .7 goals per game.
third line scores .5 goal per game
fourth line chips in with .3 goals per game.
That's 2.5 goals per game but obviously some games are going to be more or less. If your top 2 lines can score a goal each per game, bottom 2 lines only need to chip in 1.

- manvanfan


Expecting the 4th line to chip in 25-27 goals might be a bit unrealistic.
If that line got 18, that would be decent production from a 4th line.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 13 @ 11:58 AM ET
He'll be on the shelf until they don't his LTIR money for cap space. Waiting for another long term injury or trade to make space for him.
- YeOldTimer


That would be "illegal", and do you see Rouse as the kinda guy who would sit on the sidelines (healthy) while his mates go at it nightly?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 13 @ 11:58 AM ET
Expecting the 4th line to chip in 25-27 goals might be a bit unrealistic.
If that line got 18, that would be decent production from a 4th line.

- Reubenkincade


Beagle - 3
Motte - 7
Eriksson -25

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
Expecting the 4th line to chip in 25-27 goals might be a bit unrealistic.
If that line got 18, that would be decent production from a 4th line.

- Reubenkincade

Eriksson Beagle Motte had 23 goals last season in 81, 57 and 74 games.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
Beagle - 3
Motte - 7
Eriksson -25


- 1970vintage


😆
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
Plus the 'I told you so's' from #teamwhiner.



#capissues

- LordHumungous


What do you think a realistic return would be for BB at this particular point in his career? I'm thinking pretty significant based on potential alone.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 13 @ 12:02 PM ET
What do you think a realistic return would be for BB at this particular point in his career? I'm thinking pretty significant based on potential alone.
- bloatedmosquito


Stamkos and Van's 1st?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
Eriksson Beagle Motte had 23 goals last season in 81, 57 and 74 games.
- manvanfan


The mere mention of him, makes me lose interest in the season
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
Stamkos and Van's 1st?
- 1970vintage


Stamkos - too old.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 13 @ 12:09 PM ET
The mere mention of him, makes me lose interest in the season
- Reubenkincade

Really doesn't change the fact that if they would have played all 82 games they would have scored around 30 goals for the season but as you said 18 is realistic.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
Really doesn't change the fact that if they would have played all 82 games they would have scored around 30 goals for the season but as you said 18 is realistic.
- manvanfan


I think 1 of those guys played up and down the lineup, only scorinģ, when he was being carried by more offensive minded players.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 13 @ 12:24 PM ET
That would be "illegal", and do you see Rouse as the kinda guy who would sit on the sidelines (healthy) while his mates go at it nightly?
- 1970vintage


I do think he's a 'team guy' who would wait a few extra games to be cleared if it meant they didn't have to lose someone to waivers.

With this team I doubt that will ever be an issue however. Always another injury just around the corner. Hopefully the improved size, depth and schedule will help them weather those a bit better this year.
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