as it stands, sitting out a month gets him less $$
- senstroll

Not necessarily, not if he does what Nylander did and gets a large signing bonus.

People think hes doing what willie did. Dont know the facts yet.
- Fakepartofme

What we do know is that Marner doesn't want to go more than 3-5 years with the Leafs.
We know that Nylander wanted a guarantee that he wouldn't be traded and wanted a longer term deal.

So, there is a difference.

People think hes doing what willie did. Dont know the facts yet.
- Fakepartofme

Bob says he turned down 7 and 8 year deals at $11 million per, AND has turned down 3 year deals with lower AAV.

Who the hell is advising this kid? How can he possibly think he's worth more than that?

Time to seek trades involving Marner

We dont know the facts of either
- senstroll

Marner hasnt missed a game yet. Willie held out and missed games.
So marner is not there yet.

i think if nothing is close then they need to explore trading him soon.
The Leafs are looking to win a cup now, so they need to see what they can get if he is going to sit
- senstroll

On point. It's time to, at least, know your options.

I don't blame MM for taking his position but there's a point at which KD has to determine that it's in the best interest of the Leafs chances to win to move on.

Bob says he turned down 7 and 8 year deals at $11 million per, AND has turned down 3 year deals with lower AAV.

Who the hell is advising this kid? How can he possibly think he's worth more than that?
- BINGO!

Agreed. Bob, Chris Johnston, Friedman all saying the same stuff.. Marner looks like a punk in all of this, not his dad, not his agent, him.

What we do know is that Marner doesn't want to go more than 3-5 years with the Leafs.
We know that Nylander wanted a guarantee that he wouldn't be traded and wanted a longer term deal.

So, there is a difference.
- PatC80

No we don't know that about marner.
We do know that willie was worried about being traded, thats about it.
There are no guarantees

got my top 30goalies list up if anyone wants to take a peak.



waiting to hear on mitchy - I think this is the storm before the sign!

Bob says he turned down 7 and 8 year deals at $11 million per, AND has turned down 3 year deals with lower AAV.

Who the hell is advising this kid? How can he possibly think he's worth more than that?
- BINGO!

If those end up being true, it wont sit well with me.
I heard today his camp turned down 3 x 10 per.
Thats a stupid number for such a short term.

No we don't know that about marner.
We do know that willie was worried about being traded, thats about it.
There are no guarantees
- Fakepartofme

We do know that about Marner, there are far too many reports out there for all of them to be untrue. There was even that report that the Blue Jackets offered Marner a 7 yr offer sheet and he turned that down.

lol Mitch Marner actually doing the thing people thought Nylander was doing.
- BINGO!

Yeah. You just had to know that Marner's would be the worse negotiation. Nylander just wanted term and to help the Leafs out cap wise in future years. Team first guy. Marner, on the other hand is all about Marner.

If those end up being true, it wont sit well with me.
I heard today his camp turned down 3 x 10 per.
Thats a stupid number for such a short term.
- Fakepartofme

Yeah, I heard that too, they offered him 3/30M but $10m per season.

Rejected it, because he wants to make 12-15M in salary on the last year of the deal.

We do know that about Marner, there are far too many reports out there for all of them to be untrue. There was even that report that the Blue Jackets offered Marner a 7 yr offer sheet and he turned that down.
- PatC80

Yup, we know of those reports, whether they are true or not...that we dont know for sure.
In time we may.

Yeah, I heard that too, they offered him 3/30M but $10m per season.

Rejected it, because he wants to make 12-15M in salary on the last year of the deal.
- PatC80

Source on that 3 x 10 offer?

If those end up being true, it wont sit well with me.
I heard today his camp turned down 3 x 10 per.
Thats a stupid number for such a short term.
- Fakepartofme

Yep. Gotta remember too that that number involved a salary of $15 million in his fianl year, which would mean his qualifying offer when that 3 year deal ended would have had to have been AT LEAST $15 million.

EDIT: I misread. that $15 million final season structure is what he was asking for, not what they were offering.

Yeah. You just had to know that Marner's would be the worse negotiation. Nylander just wanted term and to help the Leafs out cap wise in future years. Team first guy. Marner, on the other hand is all about Marner.
- walshyleafsfan

Occam's Razor.

Media sees the vitriol that Marner is receiving, sees how it's escalating this week closer to camp, adds in additional details they just 'happened' to have learned this same critical week that will add to that.

'Look how much he declined! Look at the previous reparations he is demanding!'

This is not insanely convenient at all!

Yeah. You just had to know that Marner's would be the worse negotiation. Nylander just wanted term and to help the Leafs out cap wise in future years. Team first guy. Marner, on the other hand is all about Marner.
- walshyleafsfan

Willie just doing them a solid like the good Western Canadian boy he is, not like that Toronto snob.

Yeah. You just had to know that Marner's would be the worse negotiation. Nylander just wanted term and to help the Leafs out cap wise in future years. Team first guy. Marner, on the other hand is all about Marner.
- walshyleafsfan

Lol
He wanted to help out the leafs so he sat out?
Where are getting this info? Jesus. He sat for more money and then didnt want to miss the season.
Willie started this, now alot of rfas are following.

Occam's Razor.

Media sees the vitriol that Marner is receiving, sees how it's escalating this week closer to camp, adds in additional details they just 'happened' to have learned this same critical week that will add to that.

'Look how much he declined! Look at the previous reparations he is demanding!'

This is not insanely convenient at all!
- mcleafs

Of course it is but what the (frank) else are we gonna talk about?

Source on that 3 x 10 offer?
- The Law

heard it on TSN radio

Yep. Gotta remember too that that number involved a salary of $15 million in his fianl year, which would mean his qualifying offer when that 3 year deal ended would have had to have been AT LEAST $15 million.

EDIT: I misread. that $15 million final season structure is what he was asking for, not what they were offering.
- BINGO!

Marner's dad, Darren Dreger was saying that he wants the 3rd year at 12-15M.

Source on that 3 x 10 offer?
- The Law

Mirtle on the radio this morning is when i heard about it

Yep. Gotta remember too that that number involved a salary of $15 million in his fianl year, which would mean his qualifying offer when that 3 year deal ended would have had to have been AT LEAST $15 million.

EDIT: I misread. that $15 million final season structure is what he was asking for, not what they were offering.
- BINGO!

Dreger's report says "as much as 12 milly in the final year" ....there are clearly a bunch of conflicting reports this morning.

That just tells me the final push is being made by both sides to put pressure on each other.