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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 8:28 PM ET
Guds>Gardiner all day.
- Grinder47

Gudbranson should crash his car
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 8:29 PM ET
Yep that’s why so many nhl teams were lining up to sign the guy. Ohhh wait, you guys know something NHL GMs don’t. Because of a few goofy websites and stuff.
- Grinder47

Unfortunately most GMs think just like you.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM ET
Matt Venzel had good things to say about Addison today.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
Gudbranson should crash his car
- Feds91Stammer

He probably drives a truck.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM ET
Unfortunately most GMs think just like you.
- Feds91Stammer

Fortunately hockey people are still in charge of hockey. Keep it Canadian.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM ET
To be fair Gudbranson hasn’t looked out of place at all in Pittsburgh. He’s a fine 3rd line D pairing overpaid by $1.5M
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM ET
To be fair Gudbranson hasn’t looked out of place at all in Pittsburgh. He’s a fine 3rd line D pairing overpaid by $1.5M
- Barnaby36

To be fair he also sucked the other 99% of his career. And PDO is a helluva drug.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM ET
To be fair he also sucked the other 99% of his career. And PDO is a helluva drug.
- Feds91Stammer

I don’t care about what happened before as long as he stays this way in Pittsburgh.
I bet he would be a top 4 D in Detroit huh?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM ET
Matt Venzel had good things to say about Addison today.
- Rinosaur

Sounds like Addison and Marino got the most praise from everyone I could find that covered the game.

Addison could be Schultz's eventual replacement as the 2nd pair puck moving D, but how they bridge the gap to the two is going to be a pain because it's hard to project Addison there for the start of next year.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
To be fair he also sucked the other 99% of his career. And PDO is a helluva drug.
- Feds91Stammer

His PDO was .996, that had nothing to do with it. Unlike JJ's run with Pettersson, it wasn't luck driven, he actually played well. Whether or not he continues to do so especially if saddled with JJ, is fair to doubt based on his history though.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM ET
Gudbranson overpaid at $4M

Gardiner underpaid at $4.05M
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM ET
His PDO was .996, that had nothing to do with it. Unlike JJ's run with Pettersson, it wasn't luck driven, he actually played well. Whether or not he continues to do so especially if saddled with JJ, is fair to doubt based on his history though.
- Tojo.


I remain cautiously optimistic about Gudbranson, but rest assured if he's paired with JJ, which is likely, he's going to have a bad time.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 6 @ 10:03 PM ET
I remain cautiously optimistic about Gudbranson, but rest assured if he's paired with JJ, which is likely, he's going to have a bad time.
- Rinosaur

I agree. Not even Letang could drag positive possession number out of JJ, so it's unfair to expect anyone to.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 10:53 PM ET
I don’t care about what happened before as long as he stays this way in Pittsburgh.
I bet he would be a top 4 D in Detroit huh?

- Barnaby36

Lmao no. DET has 3 to 5 better RD options.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 10:53 PM ET
His PDO was .996, that had nothing to do with it. Unlike JJ's run with Pettersson, it wasn't luck driven, he actually played well. Whether or not he continues to do so especially if saddled with JJ, is fair to doubt based on his history though.
- Tojo.

5v5 pdo was 102. Suck it.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 6 @ 11:09 PM ET
5v5 pdo was 102. Suck it.
- Feds91Stammer

With Pens? According to where, I used naturalstattrick

https://www.naturalstattr...p2=8476467&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 11:52 PM ET
With Pens? According to where, I used naturalstattrick

https://www.naturalstattr...p2=8476467&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

- Tojo.

Hockey reference
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Sep 7 @ 12:59 AM ET
Pretty crazy Gardiner will be paid the same as Guds.. and pretty much in same ballpark as JJ...even crazier is that those two are on the same team being paid that.
- MattStrat

Tanev is also being paid about the same...as a 4th liner. And as currently constructed, ZAR is eating nachos as the 13th forward and JJ is getting ~19 minutes a night. Terrible asset management. Gardiner didn't even get any NTCs.

It feels like the Canes are becoming the Pens of a few years ago under different management and the Pens are becoming the Canes of a few years ago under JR.
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

Sep 7 @ 2:32 AM ET
Lmao no. DET has 3 to 5 better RD options.
- Feds91Stammer


Whom, specifically? Genuinely curious.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 7 @ 6:15 AM ET
Hockey reference
- Feds91Stammer

Hockey Reference I think is just evens, but that's weird that they'd vary so much. At naturalstattrick, the team only had an one ice shooting percentage around 5, so maybe he was on the ice for a few empty netters?

Regardless, all Gudbranson's numbers were outstanding here, it wasn't a case of goals for propping up bad numbers elsewhere, so it's not just a PDO driven performance in this case: they controlled chances, particularly by having some of the lowest high danger chances against in the league.

Now he's not that good, though he certainly played his part competently. If you're looking for a reason his possession stats were so high beyond himself, I'd say lots of time with Pettersson and the Bjugstad line helped tremendously. But again, unlike JJ, he kept up with them instead of dragging that group back.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 7 @ 6:25 AM ET
Cause he has a small peepee?
- Feds91Stammer

Maybe he does truck things in his down time. The whole rest of the male species isn’t out to emasculate you. You do that on your own. I love how squirmy the ultimate stats douche gets when he really has nothing to back any of his ill gotten theories of a tough player. Gudbranson is worth every penny of 4 mil. I could give a poop about pdo bullpoop.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 7 @ 6:28 AM ET
Hockey Reference I think is just evens, but that's weird that they'd vary so much. At naturalstattrick, the team only had an one ice shooting percentage around 5, so maybe he was on the ice for a few empty netters?

Regardless, all Gudbranson's numbers were outstanding here, it wasn't a case of goals for propping up bad numbers elsewhere, so it's not just a PDO driven performance in this case: they controlled chances, particularly by having some of the lowest high danger chances against in the league.

Now he's not that good, though he certainly played his part competently. If you're looking for a reason his possession stats were so high beyond himself, I'd say lot of time with Pettersson and the Bjugstad line helped tremendously. But again, unlike JJ, he kept up with them instead of dragging that group back.

- Tojo.

^ uhhh what he said. And that whole saving Guenztel from Tom Wilson. And giving Matt Murray a safe place. And giving the Pens a set of nuts for Christ sake. Team was Sofff
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 7 @ 10:23 AM ET
Guds>Gardiner all day.
- Grinder47


Lol again with the comical posts.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 7 @ 10:53 AM ET
Whom, specifically? Genuinely curious.
- Za Warudo

Hronek. Green. Bowey. And possibly Kaski and Daley.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
Maybe he does truck things in his down time. The whole rest of the male species isn’t out to emasculate you. You do that on your own. I love how squirmy the ultimate stats douche gets when he really has nothing to back any of his ill gotten theories of a tough player. Gudbranson is worth every penny of 4 mil. I could give a poop about pdo bullpoop.
- Grinder47

Lmao you’re the triggered millennial. Defending guds micropenis.
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