i won't i'd package ghost with something to bring in someone like oh i dunno Laine
- 2Real

The something else would also have to be a somewhat high cap hit (at least 4.5 aav)

Because I think Laine gets 9 million from someone. And that needs to even out cap wise.

Still have to resign Provorov and Konecny.

seriously? we couldnt' replace ghost with gardiner?
- 2Real

Another stupid idea for the trash pile.

Another stupid idea for the trash pile.
- Feanor

cool story bro

The something else would also have to be a somewhat high cap hit (at least 4.5 aav)

Because I think Laine gets 9 million from someone. And that needs to even out cap wise.

Still have to resign Provorov and Konecny.
- MBFlyerfan

rather have laine than konecny

rather have laine than konecny
- 2Real

you're still off by another $4m if you are trying to get Gardiner and Laine over Ghost and TK.

seriously? we couldnt' replace ghost with gardiner? well hopefully this puts a cap on what Provy will make
- 2Real

Should have picked Hischier instead of Patrick.

Should have picked Hischier instead of Patrick.
- jmatchett383

Giroux SUCKS

Should have picked Hischier instead of Patrick.
- jmatchett383

How does carolina keep getting solid defenseman

Better yet: how does gardiner get 4x4 and Myers get 6×6 or whatever

Gardnier ain't all that.

Gardnier ain't all that.
- Pelle31Forever

In context, he's the 4/5 on that team which is a great spot for him. Their D core is impressive. No elite guy but very solid.
* Hamilton elite?

In context, he's the 4/5 on that team which is a great spot for him. Their D core is impressive. No elite guy but very solid.
* Hamilton elite?
- ClaudeFather

I'm just saying if were half as good as people claim he is it wouldn't have taken until almost mid September to find a team.

I'm just saying if were half as good as people claim he is it wouldn't have taken until almost mid September to find a team.
- Pelle31Forever

Best in the league according to Tanner haha. I agree, but in that depth chart he fits nicely as the 4/5 guy, probably one of the best in the league in that pecking order.

I'm just saying if were half as good as people claim he is it wouldn't have taken until almost mid September to find a team.
- Pelle31Forever

as a ufa i was actually surprised he didn't get more money.

Best in the league according to Tanner haha. I agree, but in that depth chart he fits nicely as the 4/5 guy, probably one of the best in the league in that pecking order.
- ClaudeFather

I agree. I don't think he's trash. He's serviceable but I'm also glad the Flyers didn't go after him.

as a ufa i was actually surprised he didn't get more money.
- Peter Richards

Maybe that's why it took awhile for him to sign. Guess he just settled.

while i do agree coburn was an integral part of our defense and was a dynamo d pairing with Timonen, i think you can argue timonen was more missed and more important, and even further, Pronger going down kinda ruined our entire blue line for years. Pronger is that type of player that can really hide a lot of deficiencies on a blue line, a transcedent player if you will. Coburn really could never even hold a candle to Pronger, but then again not many dmen could.
- sjk540

You missed the point. I just compared Coburn to Niskanen and you went to how much we missed Timonen and Pronger. Provorov could potentially be our next Timonen, so cross off needing a number one defenseman from the list. We have one. For three seasons, we’ve needed a new Brayden Coburn to compliment the new Timonen.

I agree. I don't think he's trash. He's serviceable but I'm also glad the Flyers didn't go after him.
- Pelle31Forever

There are questions about his health but he is far more than a serviceable player. He's not the elite #1 defenseman that Tanner thinks he is but he's a solid #3 NHL defenseman

TLDR; version of Flyersbuzz today...

EVerything is terrible because we didnt trade Ghost and TK for Laine.
Ignoring the fact that trades are two way streets.

definitely.

especially with amount of money they make it is a different era.

Looking at Dave Shultz' contract 5 years for $350,000, yeah you can see why they felt they needed to play through things.

Now, with millions on the line, its not worth it to the player or the franchise.
- MBFlyerfan

For sure, I also do not know if contracts were guaranteed back in the day, but nowadays they are so the players are getting paid either way. And as bad ass as it is to see guys battle through injuries, I do not think it is worth it for the player (might aggravate injury and make it worse) or the team (if said player aggravates injury and misses playoff game for example).

Simmer was a good example of this either the past season or the one before.

I agree. I don't think he's trash. He's serviceable but I'm also glad the Flyers didn't go after him.
- Pelle31Forever

Hes been dealing with back spasms for 2 years now. Fans would turn on him quick in Philly. Prone to frequent brain farts. Hes not going to turn the tides of the division by any means.

TLDR; version of Flyersbuzz today...

EVerything is terrible because we didnt trade Ghost and TK for Laine.
Ignoring the fact that trades are two way streets.
- opeth_pa

This is possibly?

Do you know how quickly I would make this deal if the Jets would make it? A 6’5” 21 year old kid with three seasons under his belt who has never scored under 30 and has already seen 40 plus goals in his career.

Gardnier ain't all that.
- Pelle31Forever

neither is ghost but people are stuck in the homerism

I'll take Ghost over Gardiner
- ClaudeFather

Gardiner is poop. I wouldn’t take him for free on a bet.

Gardiner is poop. I wouldn’t take him for free on a bet.
- SuperSchennBros

would you take a poop for free and bet him