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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 6 @ 10:16 AM ET
hand is lubed, on his way to Dreger's place
- Aetherial

Sorry, of all the comments to accidentally report....it was this one
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
Sorry, of all the comments to accidentally report....it was this one
- eichiefs9


TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Sep 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yes it was. I completely agree that he's overvalued, but no one is getting Laine for a problem child reclamation project and and a package of throw-ins that doesn't even include an 'A' level prospect or a first round pick. That's just asinine.
- viper488

I posted this on the Jets board. Please let me know what you think:

Thinking more about Laine. A friend of mine made an interesting comparison. He suggested to me that Laine's comparable is Rick Nash. Both are consistent 30 goal guys who's assist totals are for the most part below their goal totals. Both show flashes of taking over games but never really do. Both also do very little to elevate their line mates.

Looking at the first three seasons for both very comparable:

Laine's first three seasons:

2016-17 36g 28a 64 points
2017-18 44g 26a 70 points
2018-19 30g 20a 50 points

Nash's first three seasons:

2002-03 17g 22a 39 points
2003-04 41g 16a 57 points
2004-05 31g 23a 54 points

Mind you that Laine has shown he's more durable as Nash missed significant portions of his career due to injuries. In Nash's fourth year, he scored 27g and 30a for a total of 57 points. If trends continue for Laine down the same path as Nash's trajectory, he should get between 25 and 32 goals and get between 15 and 22 assists.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 6 @ 10:55 AM ET
looking for a paul marner update
- TheSabresTaco


“And in any other draft, if Connor’s not there, you would’ve been talking about Mitch as first overall pick,”
viper488
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MB
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
I posted this on the Jets board. Please let me know what you think:

Thinking more about Laine. A friend of mine made an interesting comparison. He suggested to me that Laine's comparable is Rick Nash. Both are consistent 30 goal guys who's assist totals are for the most part below their goal totals. Both show flashes of taking over games but never really do. Both also do very little to elevate their line mates.

Looking at the first three seasons for both very comparable:

Laine's first three seasons:

2016-17 36g 28a 64 points
2017-18 44g 26a 70 points
2018-19 30g 20a 50 points

Nash's first three seasons:

2002-03 17g 22a 39 points
2003-04 41g 16a 57 points
2004-05 31g 23a 54 points

Mind you that Laine has shown he's more durable as Nash missed significant portions of his career due to injuries. In Nash's fourth year, he scored 27g and 30a for a total of 57 points. If trends continue for Laine down the same path as Nash's trajectory, he should get between 25 and 32 goals and get between 15 and 22 assists.

- TheUltimateJet


I feel Laine probably has both a higher upside and lower downside than Nash. At this point I don't think he would be a good fit on any first line, or any situation where he'd be expected to be 'the guy' and carry that load. He'd be best suited to a roll where he can focus on the PP and 5v5 offensive zone starts against favorable matchups.

I think there's a good chance he matures and grows out of the loafer attitude, but I don't see much potential for improvement in terms of vision or hockey smarts. I think he will probably always be a poop show in his own end because the play seems to move faster than his ability to react.

Like I said a few days ago, he could easily score 50 or even 60 in the right situation, but in the wrong situation I could just as easily see him with 20 and a -50.

With that said, 50 goal scorers are rare commodity in the NHL and someone would pay a premium for that potential. I just hope it's not my team.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 6 @ 11:26 AM ET

- LordHumungous



it never is

brizer
Joined: 02.03.2010

Sep 8 @ 2:47 PM ET
Yes it was. I completely agree that he's overvalued, but no one is getting Laine for a problem child reclamation project and and a package of throw-ins that doesn't even include an 'A' level prospect or a first round pick. That's just asinine.
- viper488

habs trade.......

LEKHONEN,RIELLY,JUULSEN AND FIRST PICK
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 8 @ 9:29 PM ET
habs trade.......

LEKHONEN,RIELLY,JUULSEN AND FIRST PICK

- brizer


a bigger pile of poop is not worth more than a smaller pile of poop, sorry.
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